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chesswarsnow
12-27-2007, 08:55 AM
Sorry bout that,

1. But Bhutto was taken out today.
2. No surprise there.
3. One of her fellow countrymen, shot her and blew himself up.
4. Many knew it was coming.
5. Maybe even she knew.
6. Will they all go allah akbar?
7. Killing each other like wild madmen?
8. Stay tuned to this channel.
9. Read the story here:http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1298475,00.html

"

Benazir Bhutto Killed In Attack
Updated:13:44, Thursday December 27, 2007

Pakistan Opposition leader Benazir Bhutto has died after a suicide attack at a political rally.
"At 6.16 p.m. she expired," said Wasif Ali Khan, a member of Bhutto's party at Rawalpindi General Hospital.

It was believed to be a suicide attack"She has been martyred," said party offical Rehman Malik.

The explosion went off just after Ms Bhutto left the rally in Rawalpindi, minutes after her speech to thousands of people.

Her supports have smashed windows at the entrance to the hospital where she was being treated, some calling "Dog, Musharraf, dog,".

It is the first major attack since President General Pervez Musharraf lifted emergency rule two weeks ago.

At least 15 people died in the attack in the heart of Pakistan's military and parliamentary district.

Sky News correspondent Alex Crawford said from Pakistan the country's upcoming January elections would "most likely be postponed or cancelled

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Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

red states rule
12-27-2007, 08:57 AM
and these are the people the left wants us to sit down and reason with

This is how these people will treat anyone who disagrees with them, or speaks out against them

But the left will blame Pres Bush for it, and not the terrorists

Dilloduck
12-27-2007, 09:15 AM
and these are the people the left wants us to sit down and reason with

This is how these people will treat anyone who disagrees with them, or speaks out against them

But the left will blame Pres Bush for it, and not the terrorists

Immediately politicizing this tragic assasination is immmoral. Your hyper-partisanship has turned you into a non-human. Pathetic.

red states rule
12-27-2007, 09:21 AM
Immediately politicizing this tragic assasination is immmoral. Your hyper-partisanship has turned you into a non-human. Pathetic.



Dems blamed Bsuh for a bridge failling in MN last year and how he was to blame for the people killed

Give the left time - they will live down to my expectations

Dilloduck
12-27-2007, 09:31 AM
Dems blamed Bsuh for a bridge failling in MN last year and how he was to blame for the people killed

Give the left time - they will live down to my expectations

only a few radical kooks--not the whole party-do you not see how similar you are to a radical kook ?

JohnDoe
12-27-2007, 09:44 AM
She was a dynamic person, courageous to the hilt....this is a very sad day, I will miss her and may God rest her soul....

:(

jd

DrJohn
12-27-2007, 10:18 AM
But the left will blame Pres Bush for it, and not the terrorists

So, Rush Limbaugh is posting here?

Hagbard Celine
12-27-2007, 10:19 AM
and these are the people the left wants us to sit down and reason with

This is how these people will treat anyone who disagrees with them, or speaks out against them

But the left will blame Pres Bush for it, and not the terrorists

What a crock.

Hagbard Celine
12-27-2007, 10:20 AM
So, Rush Limbaugh is posting here?

No, we don't have the pleasure. It's just his brainwashed minions.


She was a dynamic person, courageous to the hilt....this is a very sad day, I will miss her and may God rest her soul....



jd

The first and possibly the last female PM of an Islamic nation.

mrg666
12-27-2007, 10:52 AM
Immediately politicizing this tragic assasination is immmoral. Your hyper-partisanship has turned you into a non-human. Pathetic.

her first day back in pakistan they tried to kill her

Dilloduck
12-27-2007, 11:00 AM
her first day back in pakistan they tried to kill her

and Mushariff has survived several assasination attempts. I think it's pretty obvious who's really behind it all.

JohnDoe
12-27-2007, 11:01 AM
her first day back in pakistan they tried to kill her

Who is "they"?

Also, i just got done listening to her on a 9/25/07 talk that she had before she went over there and it is so sad listening to it now....

She could forsee her own death, but she said, she wanted to go home, to her own town...

she said:

"i pray for the best in my return home, but I am prepared for the worst"


:(

sad, sad, sad....

Dilloduck
12-27-2007, 11:08 AM
Who is "they"?

Also, i just got done listening to her on a 9/25/07 talk that she had before she went over there and it is so sad listening to it now....

She could forsee her own death, but she said, she wanted to go home, to her own town...

she said:

"i pray for the best in my return home, but I am prepared for the worst"


:(

sad, sad, sad....

The Taliban---they want to run the show. Easy to blame Musharif but he simply did not have enough power to control Pakistan.

retiredman
12-27-2007, 11:09 AM
The first and possibly the last female PM of an Islamic nation.

Khaleda Zia of Bangladesh would be disappointed to see you left her off the list! ;)

gabosaurus
12-27-2007, 11:10 AM
Even more proof that CheeseWars is a inhuman idiot. Bhutto was the top Western ally in the war to free Pakistan from terrorist influence. She was a moderate Muslim (as opposed to the current president, who is more hardcore and resists Western attempt to flush out terrorists).

http://www.dawn.com/2007/12/27/benazirbhutto.htm

Cheese, how about dropping your pretense of being confrontational and hateful and try being a human being for once. You are a disgrace to humanity.

Dilloduck
12-27-2007, 11:17 AM
Even more proof that CheeseWars is a inhuman idiot. Bhutto was the top Western ally in the war to free Pakistan from terrorist influence. She was a moderate Muslim (as opposed to the current president, who is more hardcore and resists Western attempt to flush out terrorists).

http://www.dawn.com/2007/12/27/benazirbhutto.htm

Cheese, how about dropping your pretense of being confrontational and hateful and try being a human being for once. You are a disgrace to humanity.

We may have supported her politically but I can assure you the US has other allies in the Pakistani military and govt.

gabosaurus
12-27-2007, 11:21 AM
Very true Dillo. But the current government is not one of them.

chesswarsnow
12-27-2007, 11:31 AM
Sorry bout that,




Even more proof that CheeseWars is a inhuman idiot. Bhutto was the top Western ally in the war to free Pakistan from terrorist influence. She was a moderate Muslim (as opposed to the current president, who is more hardcore and resists Western attempt to flush out terrorists).

http://www.dawn.com/2007/12/27/benazirbhutto.htm

Cheese, how about dropping your pretense of being confrontational and hateful and try being a human being for once. You are a disgrace to humanity.


1. I have with held my opinion about what happened today.
2. Just reported what happened.
3. Are you projecting?
4. Everyone knows my disdain for Islam.
5. Its no secret.
6. What happened is no *Surprise* now is it?
7. Were you *Shocked and Surprised*?
8. Neither was anyone else.
9. Which in itself reflects badly on Islam and its Nations.
10. Go take your righteous indignation to them buddy!

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

gabosaurus
12-27-2007, 11:34 AM
My opinion is you need a nice car bomb parked outside your home.

Dilloduck
12-27-2007, 11:36 AM
Very true Dillo. But the current government is not one of them.

Bullshit---in spite of Musharifs failings and weaknesses he has been vital to our efforts in the area.

BoogyMan
12-27-2007, 11:36 AM
My opinion is you need a nice car bomb parked outside your home.

Umm Gabo, that was out of line.

Can you not disagree without wishing death on your political adversaries?

Tsk tsk tsk, shame on you.

gabosaurus
12-27-2007, 11:40 AM
Umm Gabo, that was out of line.

Yes, it totally was. :)


Can you not disagree without wishing death on your political adversaries?

Obviously not. :)


Tsk tsk tsk, shame on you.

True dat. :)

JohnDoe
12-27-2007, 11:59 AM
The Taliban---they want to run the show. Easy to blame Musharif but he simply did not have enough power to control Pakistan.
I wonder why he didn't have enough power to control pakistan, because he was a Dictator? Because he was not elected freely by the people?

Or because the taliban had strengthened in the years after 9/11 in the pakistan region?

I am fully aware that Musharraf became an allie to us and helped as much as he possibly could btw.

jd

chesswarsnow
12-27-2007, 12:01 PM
Sorry bout that,



My opinion is you need a nice car bomb parked outside your home.


1. But you seem like they who killed Bhutto.
2. Oh the humanity of yourself.
3. Hypocrite.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Dilloduck
12-27-2007, 12:02 PM
I wonder why he didn't have enough power to control pakistan, because he was a Dictator? Because he was not elected freely by the people?

Or because the taliban had strengthened in the years after 9/11 in the pakistan region?

I am fully aware that Musharraf became an allie to us and helped as much as he possibly could btw.

jd

The fact that 5 million afghan refugees entered northern Pakistan after the Soviet invasion didn't make things real easy.

CockySOB
12-27-2007, 12:03 PM
My opinion is you need a nice car bomb parked outside your home.

And just when I thought my opinion of you couldn't possibly go any lower....

:puke3:

jimnyc
12-27-2007, 12:04 PM
My opinion is you need a nice car bomb parked outside your home.

Gabby has been removed from this thread.

chesswarsnow
12-27-2007, 12:09 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. But I didn't know *Gabobnoxious* was a flaming neoliberal hypocrite.
2. Not until now.
3. Seems the left of the neoliberals are no better than Islamic Terrorists now.
4. Anyone else notice that?

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Dilloduck
12-27-2007, 12:25 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. But I didn't know *Gabobnoxious* was a flaming neoliberal hypocrite.
2. Not until now.
3. Seems the left of the neoliberals are no better than Islamic Terrorists now.
4. Anyone else notice that?

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

I think of Gabby as unique kook of her own making myself---can't be more like her. Of course we have you right wing unique kooks here too.

Hagbard Celine
12-27-2007, 12:41 PM
Khaleda Zia of Bangladesh would be disappointed to see you left her off the list! ;)

m'bad.

mrg666
12-27-2007, 01:21 PM
Even more proof that CheeseWars is a inhuman idiot. Bhutto was the top Western ally in the war to free Pakistan from terrorist influence. She was a moderate Muslim (as opposed to the current president, who is more hardcore and resists Western attempt to flush out terrorists).

http://www.dawn.com/2007/12/27/benazirbhutto.htm

Cheese, how about dropping your pretense of being confrontational and hateful and try being a human being for once. You are a disgrace to humanity.

thats correct she was too moderate for them and too friendly with the west

Dilloduck
12-27-2007, 01:22 PM
What a nightmare--an adored leader assasinated, several suspects, a nuclear power on the brink, next door to India and Afghanistan. To say nothing of all our candidates trying to use the situation to their advantage. :cuckoo:

Hagbard Celine
12-27-2007, 01:33 PM
Sorry, this is a little off topic but I'm watching the Bhutto assassination coverage and I had a thought about how different cultures handle death's aftermath. This is a picture of how Westerners handle it:
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:uso5JM3k6dSm3M:http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a300/tescosuicide/ALa2/marines_escort_casket.jpg
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2006/08/04/hessvon-kruedener-cp-10505651.jpg
And this is a picture of how Muslims handle it:
http://www.nancarrow-webdesk.com/warehouse/storage2/2007-w45/img.63872_t.jpg

Chaotic to say the least. Just like every other aspect of their culture. :dunno:

5stringJeff
12-27-2007, 04:22 PM
This is too bad. She would have pushed Pakistan closer to true democracy. :(

Dilloduck
12-27-2007, 04:25 PM
This is too bad. She would have pushed Pakistan closer to true democracy. :(

Which is probably why she was taken out.

BoogyMan
12-27-2007, 04:29 PM
Which is probably why she was taken out.

She certainly would have been a breath of fresh air for the region and its people. Things are looking pretty bad right now, only the next few days will tell how bad things are going to get.

jimnyc
12-27-2007, 05:27 PM
But the left will blame Pres Bush for it, and not the terrorists


Dems blamed Bsuh for a bridge failling in MN last year and how he was to blame for the people killed

Give the left time - they will live down to my expectations

But there are some who think the Bush Administration is not without blame. Hussain Haqqani, a former top aide to Bhutto and now a professor at Boston University, thinks the U.S., which has counted Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf as a key ally against terrorism since 9/11, bears some of the responsibility. "Washington will have to answer a lot of questions, especially the Administration," he says. "People like me have been making specific requests to American officials to intervene and ask for particular security arrangements be made for her, and they have been constantly just trusting the Musharraf Administration." U.S. officials said they were leery of intervening in another nation's internal affairs, and didn't want to give Bhutto Washington's imprimatur.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/wherebhuttosdeathleavestheus

REDWHITEBLUE2
12-27-2007, 09:46 PM
Can someone please tell me again how Islame is a peaceful religion :salute:

JohnDoe
12-27-2007, 10:41 PM
Can someone please tell me again how Islame is a peaceful religion :salute:

what about bhutto and those that supported her....she was not radical?

jd

red states rule
12-28-2007, 05:34 AM
only a few radical kooks--not the whole party-do you not see how similar you are to a radical kook ?

Oh really? Reid, Pelosi, the NY tImes, and Daily Kos all blamed Pres Bush and the war in Iraq for the bridge collapse

http://polipundit.com/wp-comments-popup.php?p=18383&c=1

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0807/5228.html

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21880&page=1

red states rule
12-28-2007, 05:41 AM
But there are some who think the Bush Administration is not without blame. Hussain Haqqani, a former top aide to Bhutto and now a professor at Boston University, thinks the U.S., which has counted Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf as a key ally against terrorism since 9/11, bears some of the responsibility. "Washington will have to answer a lot of questions, especially the Administration," he says. "People like me have been making specific requests to American officials to intervene and ask for particular security arrangements be made for her, and they have been constantly just trusting the Musharraf Administration." U.S. officials said they were leery of intervening in another nation's internal affairs, and didn't want to give Bhutto Washington's imprimatur.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/wherebhuttosdeathleavestheus



Well Russ Feingold has steped up to the plate and is blaming Pres Bush for the asassination

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y31YoVbJUSc

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2007/12/senator-russ-feingold-blames-bush-iraq.html

red states rule
12-28-2007, 06:14 AM
What a crock.

I doubt if CNN will report Sen Feingold's comments

Damn, it is scary how well I know what Dems will say before they say it

BTW then we have this from Hillary, Obama, and Edwards.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1944849/posts

Dilloduck
12-28-2007, 09:34 AM
Oh really? Reid, Pelosi, the NY tImes, and Daily Kos all blamed Pres Bush and the war in Iraq for the bridge collapse

http://polipundit.com/wp-comments-popup.php?p=18383&c=1

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0807/5228.html

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21880&page=1

like I said--a few kooks. Everything you post blames liberals for everything. Maybe it's just me but Im flat burned out on people choosing "sides". While neither ideology is perfect, if you listen to their proponents you would think the were. The lengths people are willing to go to defend their own and attack others are absurdly ridiculous.

chesswarsnow
12-28-2007, 10:07 AM
Sorry bout that,

1. But who killed Bhutto?
2. It wasn't what you think.
3. Pakistan Killed Bhutto.
4. When there is no *Rule of Law*, and people are likely to be fanatical rioters.
5. Everyone is a target for death.
6. When you understand this, and realise the truth of my statements, you will understand that *The People* of Pakistan indeed are all guilty .
7. Unless and only when there is a *Rule of Law* in Pakistan, these kinds of killings will always take place.
8. From honor killings for wearing the wrong cloths.
9. To rapes by men on boys.
10 Where* the victims become victims, from the so~called courts, there is nothing good under the sun, that will or ever will come from this kind of reality.
11. Read some proof thusly:http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1298521,00.html

"

At least 32 people have died in the riots. Police have fired tear gas and have been told to shoot if necessary to maintain law and order.

"

12. When death is at hand like this, life isn't a priority.
13. Why would Bhutto's life be any more valued?

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

DrJohn
12-28-2007, 10:11 AM
Sorry bout that,

1. But who killed Bhutto?
2. It wasn't what you think.
3. Pakistan Killed Bhutto.
4. When there is no *Rule of Law*, and people are likely to be fanatical rioters.
5. Everyone is a target for death.
6. When you understand this, and realise the truth of my statements, you will understand that *The People* of Pakistan indeed are all guilty .
7. Unless and only when there is a *Rule of Law* in Pakistan, these kinds of killings will always take place.
8. From honor killings for wearing the wrong cloths.
9. To rapes by men on boys.
10 Wear the victims become victims, from the so~called courts, there is nothing good under the sun, that will or ever will come from this kind of reality.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas



I'm glad that none of the things you've listed (and so thoughtfully numbered) happen in the USA.

red states rule
12-30-2007, 04:10 AM
like I said--a few kooks. Everything you post blames liberals for everything. Maybe it's just me but Im flat burned out on people choosing "sides". While neither ideology is perfect, if you listen to their proponents you would think the were. The lengths people are willing to go to defend their own and attack others are absurdly ridiculous.

More then a few my friend. Sorry if pointing out what the left says and does bothers you

What is ridicilous os the left trying to score political points when people die, and those who gwet upset when it is pointed out

Here is a thread I started on the bridge collapse - the liberal media went along with the Dems attacking Pres Bush over it

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=5830&highlight=bridge+collapse

red states rule
12-30-2007, 04:11 AM
Can someone please tell me again how Islame is a peaceful religion :salute:

It is a blast my friend