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Pale Rider
12-29-2007, 07:18 AM
Topless Woman Lured Perverts in Police Sting



Firefighter Busted for Exposing Himself to Sunbather Appeals 'Entrapment' Conviction

(ABC News) By MARCUS BARAM

Share Robin Garrison, an off-duty 42-year-old firefighter, was walking in Berliner Park in Columbus, Ohio, in May when he saw a woman sunbathing topless under a tree.

He approached her and they started talking and getting comfortable, the woman smiling and resting her foot on his shoulder at one point.

Eventually, she asked to see Garrison's penis; he unzipped his pants and complied.

Seconds later, undercover police officers pulled up in a van and arrested Garrison; he was later charged with public indecency, a misdemeanor, based on video footage taken by cops who were targeting men having sex or masturbating in the park. While topless sunbathing is legal in the city's parks, exposing more than that is against the law.

The case is just one of the more extreme examples of police stings aimed at luring people into committing crimes, a tactic that has resulted in hundreds of arrests, many convictions and plenty of controversy.

Link to full story... (http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4022717&page=1)

Pale Rider
12-29-2007, 07:20 AM
So women can walk around with their tits flopping in the wind in parks in Columbus, Ohio? WTF?

PostmodernProphet
12-29-2007, 07:35 AM
masturbating in the park. While topless sunbathing is legal in the city's parks

hmmm....I wonder if there is a connection?.....

Pale Rider
12-29-2007, 07:56 AM
hmmm....I wonder if there is a connection?.....

If it were up to me, I'd tell the women to put their tops back on, and I'd also bet the rubbing one off problem would subside also.

Why do these people think they used to dangle a carrot on a string in front of a horse to make him go. Same thing... dangling breasts in front of men. What do they honestly expect?

JohnDoe
12-29-2007, 10:56 AM
This fits the definition of entrapment to me!

Mr. P
12-29-2007, 11:39 AM
"The police should concentrate their noble efforts on behalf of the city on countering real crimes committed every day," wrote Kings County criminal court judge Matthew A. Sciarrino Jr. "They do not need to manipulate a situation where temptation may overcome even people who would normally never think of committing a crime."

That's how I feel about it too. entrapment is nothing more than lazy police work, IMO. I have a problem with Dateline NBC and their entrapment program also.

Abbey Marie
12-29-2007, 11:45 AM
If she asked to see it, I don't see a problem here, let alone a crime. :dunno:

Mr. P
12-29-2007, 11:53 AM
If she asked to see it, I don't see a problem here, let alone a crime. :dunno:

Asking wasn't a crime...whippin er out was.

Pale Rider
12-29-2007, 11:54 AM
If she asked to see it, I don't see a problem here, let alone a crime. :dunno:

Exactly. It's entrapment. But I think it's also what Mr. P is saying. It's a lazy police department. They'd rather set a trap and sit on their lazy ass watching it, AND it's probably a cash cow besides. They saw an easy way to make quick money.

Where's the aclu?

Missileman
12-29-2007, 11:58 AM
I have a problem with Dateline NBC and their entrapment program also.

Are you referring to the ones where they get men to show up for meetings with what they believe are underaged kids?

Mr. P
12-29-2007, 12:06 PM
Are you referring to the ones where they get men to show up for meetings with what they believe are underaged kids?

Yep...It's entrapment. I think they got a lot of heat for that series, I haven't seen it lately. I am opposed to entrapment, period.

gabosaurus
12-29-2007, 12:12 PM
They could never use me in that sting. I don't have much of a top. :lmao:

Mr. P
12-29-2007, 12:16 PM
They could never use me in that sting. I don't have much of a top. :lmao:

Post a pic...we'll be the judge of that.:laugh2:

gabosaurus
12-29-2007, 12:22 PM
Post a pic...we'll be the judge of that.:laugh2:

Suffice to say, there are probably male DPers who have larger boobs than I do.

Missileman
12-29-2007, 12:25 PM
Yep...It's entrapment. I think they got a lot of heat for that series, I haven't seen it lately. I am opposed to entrapment, period.

These are grown men who enter chat rooms and engage in conversations with children. While I think the undercovers make the process go smoother, i.e. they go along with advances more readily than a real child might, to my knowledge, the pervs are the ones to make the first move. That is not entrapment IMO, it's a pre-emptive strike. I much prefer that the perv shows up to find an anchor and cameraman than a real child.

gabosaurus
12-29-2007, 12:34 PM
Sorry missileman, I fail to see the connection between this case and child porn stings.
If you are trying to make time with an attractive topless woman, and she asks you to whip it out, how many of you would fail to comply? The woman in question is obviously not underage.
This is obviously entrapment.

Missileman
12-29-2007, 12:42 PM
Sorry missileman, I fail to see the connection between this case and child porn stings.
If you are trying to make time with an attractive topless woman, and she asks you to whip it out, how many of you would fail to comply? The woman in question is obviously not underage.
This is obviously entrapment.

I wasn't comparing these cases. You can make reasonable arguments that the topless woman in the park sting is entrapment. However, if you're stupid enough to whip willie out in public, you might deserve to get busted.

Dilloduck
12-29-2007, 06:49 PM
They could never use me in that sting. I don't have much of a top. :lmao:

No worries--you mouth MORE than makes up for your flat chest.

Mr. P
12-29-2007, 07:35 PM
No worries--you mouth MORE than makes up for your flat chest.

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

Said1
12-29-2007, 07:36 PM
Women can go topless in public in Ontario.

LiberalNation
12-29-2007, 07:42 PM
Yeah entrapment is all that comes to mind here.

What's wrong with women going topless in public, doesn't bother me.

82Marine89
12-29-2007, 08:02 PM
Yeah entrapment is all that comes to mind here.

What's wrong with women going topless in public, doesn't bother me.

Me either. Got pics? :poke:

Trinity
12-29-2007, 08:15 PM
So women can walk around with their tits flopping in the wind in parks in Columbus, Ohio? WTF?

That's what I'm saying........ I used to live in Columbus Ohio of course it's been many years ago but hell I only live 2 hours away now and I have never heard that one...................... hell I find it quite shocking that the state of Ohio would even consider letting anyone run around topless male or female........ conservative ass state! I love my state can't you tell?!

5stringJeff
12-29-2007, 08:48 PM
It's entrapment, pure and simple.

Nukeman
12-30-2007, 08:28 PM
That's what I'm saying........ I used to live in Columbus Ohio of course it's been many years ago but hell I only live 2 hours away now and I have never heard that one...................... hell I find it quite shocking that the state of Ohio would even consider letting anyone run around topless male or female........ conservative ass state! I love my state can't you tell?!


Are we talking about the same Ohio!!! I mean this state always votes Democrat in every election. Not very conservative in my mind.....

LiberalNation
12-30-2007, 09:26 PM
It's conservative for a blue state.

Dilloduck
12-30-2007, 09:29 PM
It's conservative for a blue state.

I wonder if you woulda got busted for hitting on a naked chic ?

retiredman
12-30-2007, 09:34 PM
Are we talking about the same Ohio!!! I mean this state always votes Democrat in every election. Not very conservative in my mind.....

you must have forgotten about 2004

Pale Rider
12-30-2007, 10:21 PM
I wonder if you woulda got busted for hitting on a naked chic ?

If not, certainly for masturbating in public.

actsnoblemartin
12-30-2007, 10:27 PM
i need to move to ontario

:lol:


Women can go topless in public in Ontario.

Pale Rider
12-30-2007, 11:36 PM
i need to move to ontario

:lol:

I wouldn't be too quick to move. I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of the women going topless, you wouldn't WANT to see topless. In actuality, it's probably WORSE that they ARE.

Trinity
12-31-2007, 01:35 PM
Are we talking about the same Ohio!!! I mean this state always votes Democrat in every election. Not very conservative in my mind.....

Yeah I'm still stumped on that one.....

Trinity
12-31-2007, 01:36 PM
i need to move to ontario

:lol:

me too....

Trinity
12-31-2007, 01:38 PM
I wouldn't be too quick to move. I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of the women going topless, you wouldn't WANT to see topless. In actuality, it's probably WORSE that they ARE.

can't be any worse then some of the guys I have seen running around topless............ it's like dude put your shirt on, no one wants to see your double D's lol!

manu1959
12-31-2007, 01:45 PM
lived in copenhagen for a time.....spring was wonderful there.....

Pale Rider
12-31-2007, 01:54 PM
can't be any worse then some of the guys I have seen running around topless............ it's like dude put your shirt on, no one wants to see your double D's lol!

I agree. I've seen men that need a bra. They should keep their shirt on as well. Disgusting is disgusting.

Said1
12-31-2007, 02:13 PM
I wouldn't be too quick to move. I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of the women going topless, you wouldn't WANT to see topless. In actuality, it's probably WORSE that they ARE.

Actually, there's some pretty sexy ladies going topless at city beaches and a few 'salons' where you can get your hair cut by a topless women in heels. Other than that, I haven't seen any women exercise this right. :laugh2:

Trigg
12-31-2007, 02:53 PM
I gotta agree with Pale and a few others here.

Tell the ladies to put their shirts back on and I bet the wacking off in public stops.

Pale Rider
12-31-2007, 02:58 PM
Actually, there's some pretty sexy ladies going topless at city beaches and a few 'salons' where you can get your hair cut by a topless women in heels. Other than that, I haven't seen any women exercise this right. :laugh2:

You talking about in Canada? When is it warm enough to go topless in Canada?

Dilloduck
12-31-2007, 03:07 PM
You talking about in Canada? When is it warm enough to go topless in Canada?

When is it warm enough to masturbate in public in Canada ? :laugh2:

HotPinkConsevative
01-01-2008, 11:47 PM
Yeah totally!!!

nevadamedic
01-02-2008, 12:07 AM
So women can walk around with their tits flopping in the wind in parks in Columbus, Ohio? WTF?

It's entrapment, plain and simple.