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avatar4321
02-11-2008, 06:18 PM
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5700252&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Very American dont you think? [/sarcasm]

5stringJeff
02-11-2008, 06:21 PM
:wtf:

hjmick
02-11-2008, 06:22 PM
Che is very American, or did you miss that memo as well?

I have been unable to comprehend the worship heaped upon tha murderous scumbag.

avatar4321
02-11-2008, 06:23 PM
a picture for anyone who doesnt want to watch the video

Kathianne
02-11-2008, 06:26 PM
Unbelievable! For those who don't know about Che Guevara. For those who wonder what KSG is in the URL, "Kennedy School of Government":

http://media.www.ksgcitizen.org/media/storage/paper223/news/2005/10/06/OpEd/Che-Guevara.Icon.Murderer-1014117.shtml


Che Guevara: icon, murderer
Dallas Boyd
Issue date: 10/6/05 Section: Op-Ed


Few fashion accessories are as ubiquitous on liberal American university campuses as clothing depicting the visage of Ernesto "Che" Guevara, the Argentine-born compaņero of Cuban despot Fidel Castro. An amusing game would involve counting which items are more commonplace in Harvard Yard-Che t-shirts or iPods.

While Che's chief attraction-his handsomeness-makes for clever merchandizing, the legions who bear his image are often ignorant of a somewhat more salient feature of his persona: Guevara's participation in mass murder and his role as architect of the well-oiled apparatus of state repression that is modern-day Cuba.

Following the collapse of the Batista regime, Guevara served as commander of the La Cabaņa prison, where he personally presided over the extrajudicial executions of hundreds-perhaps thousands-of former regime officials and opponents of Castro's dictatorship.

Former dissident Armando Valladares has documented Che's personal involvement in the torture and execution of political prisoners. Lest one dismiss these atrocities as relics of a bygone era, a recent Amnesty International report reminds us that, "Cuban authorities continue to suppress any form of dissent by methods such as harassment, threats, intimidation, detention and long-term imprisonment." In short, the very methods Guevara helped pioneer.

In a July 2005 New Republic essay entitled "The Killing Machine," Alvaro Vargas Llosa offers a chilling description of Guevara's serial bloodletting in the name of communist revolution. Llosa's title is an allusion to Che's famous "Message to the Tricontinental," which contained this charming passage: "Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine."

Llosa writes, "Che ordered the execution of a couple dozen people in Santa Clara, in central Cuba, where his column had gone as part of a final assault on the island. Some of them were shot in a hotel...among those executed, known as casquitos, were peasants who had joined the army simply to escape unemployment." Guevara later supervised the construction of a constellation of hellish "labor" camps across Cuba, which were used to imprison dissidents and, not long after his death, homosexuals and AIDS patients.

During a 1960s tour of Stalinist nations, Guevara was said to have been most enchanted with North Korea, perhaps the most Orwellian state in human history. Having personally engineered the alliance between Castro's nascent dictatorship and the Soviet Union-the oppressor of hundreds of millions of people from Pyongyang to Prague-Guevara lamented the Soviet "betrayal" of Cuba following the Cuban Missile Crisis. He informed a reporter for the socialist newspaper, The Daily Worker, that, "If the rockets had remained, we would have used them all and directed them against the very heart of the United States, including New York...."

Dispatched by Castro to foment Marxist rebellion in the Congo, Guevara failed miserably and retreated to various communist outposts before embarking to South America. By the time of his execution by CIA-backed Bolivian forces, Guevara's attempt to incite revolution in Bolivia had been reduced to little more than pathetic raids on village pharmacies in search of asthma medication. Not one Bolivian peasant had flocked to his banner.

Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen has devoted substantial column space to castigating naīve liberals for their infatuation with Guevara and Castro. Noting the Che t-shirt that performer Carlos Santana wore to this year's Oscars, Cohen asked, "What was he celebrating? Firing squads?"

The Left's unpardonable adoration of Guevara is symptomatic of its decades-long apologia for the Cuban police-state in particular and communist tyranny in general. It is no coincidence that last year's gushing cinematic hagiography of Guevara, "The Motorcycle Diaries," was produced by left-wing actor and Castro apologist Robert Redford. In the perverse calculus of many liberals, Cuba's universal health care and its regime's hostility to the U.S. is quite enough to trump the secret police, prison camps and lack of a free press. This pathology finds its most absurd expression in the assertion that it is the U.S. embargo-honored by precisely two governments, ours and Israel's-and not Castro's bankrupt stewardship that has authored the Cuban people's misery.

As totalitarian thugs go, Guevara's closest analogue is perhaps Horst Wessel, the Nazi Brownshirt "martyred" in the early days of Hitler's rise and thereafter immortalized in countless fascist books and films, just as Che continues to be mythologized today. Though Nazism claimed vastly fewer lives than Che's brand of communism, imagine the obscenity of Wessel's portrait adorning a popular clothing line. Guevara's dashing countenance is no less offensive.

Today Cuban schoolchildren are required to begin each day with the pledge, "Seremos como el Che!"-We will be like Che! Thus do many young Americans worship an icon who serves as an omnipresent propaganda tool for one of the most repressive governments on Earth.

Callow, sentimental students may be forgiven for their ignorance of Che's grisly crimes; those who admire him and perpetuate his myth in spite of his brutal, murderous legacy deserve nothing more than our contempt.

Mr. P
02-11-2008, 06:37 PM
Do you folks REALLY think Oboma or any other running for POTUS would approve such a flag in any of his/their campaign offices? Geeezzzzzzzzz.

Yurt
02-11-2008, 06:45 PM
Do you folks REALLY think Oboma or any other running for POTUS would approve such a flag in any of his/their campaign offices? Geeezzzzzzzzz.

why not? can't say obama is that intelligent

retiredman
02-11-2008, 06:52 PM
why not? can't say obama is that intelligent

yeah...only idiots get to be editor of the Harvard Law Review.:lol:

Yurt
02-11-2008, 07:02 PM
yeah...only idiots get to be editor of the Harvard Law Review.:lol:


Presiding over an assembly of 60 mostly white editors in a law school classroom, Obama listened to impassioned pleas and pressed conservatives to explain their reasoning and liberals to sharpen their thinking. But he never spoke about his own point of view or mentioned that he believed he had benefit ed from affirmative action

sounds about right, never let em know where you stand or where your votes lay....

Mr. P
02-11-2008, 07:05 PM
why not? can't say obama is that intelligent


yeah...only idiots get to be editor of the Harvard Law Review.:lol:

MFM beat me to it. Am I seeing the death gasp from our own members?

Just accept it, Oboma is very likely to be the Dem candidate and VERY possibly the next POTUS.. The people are pissed and want change and if these super delegates give it to the beast watch out!

No, I won't vote for him...that's just the way I see it.

Yurt
02-11-2008, 07:17 PM
MFM beat me to it. Am I seeing the death gasp from our own members?

Just accept it, Oboma is very likely to be the Dem candidate and VERY possibly the next POTUS.. The people are pissed and want change and if these super delegates give it to the beast watch out!

No, I won't vote for him...that's just the way I see it.

so the editor of an uber liberal/socialist lawschool and law review review would not put up an uber socialist poster? he is running a socialist platform, what is so surprising?

stephanie
02-11-2008, 07:24 PM
The dumbing down of America is pretty complete..

The takeover is now in full swing...

We'll miss ya..:salute:

Mr. P
02-11-2008, 07:26 PM
so the editor of an uber liberal/socialist lawschool and law review review would not put up an uber socialist poster? he is running a socialist platform, what is so surprising?

The suggestion that one running for POTUS would do so. Much of the voting population ain't socialist YET and would never support this guy. It seems he has support, even from middle America. Now, either middle America is dumb, blind or are demanding a change I donno. The fact is he's sweeping the states.

Mr. P
02-11-2008, 07:29 PM
The dumbing down of America is pretty complete..

The takeover is now in full swing...

We'll miss ya..:salute:

I think it's been complete for about 16 yrs.

avatar4321
02-11-2008, 07:40 PM
yeah...only idiots get to be editor of the Harvard Law Review.:lol:

you have obviously never been in law school

stephanie
02-11-2008, 07:46 PM
This picture says a lot also...

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/alaskamomma/harkin_steak_fry_08.jpg

Little-Acorn
02-11-2008, 07:58 PM
This picture says a lot also...


Time/place?

Were they doing a genuine salute? Or just rehearsing to get the correct exposure, camera angles, etc.?

Or....??

stephanie
02-11-2008, 08:13 PM
Time/place?

Were they doing a genuine salute? Or just rehearsing to get the correct exposure, camera angles, etc.?

Or....??

dang..I didn't save the story with it...sorry..

Mr. P
02-11-2008, 08:18 PM
This picture says a lot also...

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/alaskamomma/harkin_steak_fry_08.jpg

Just more smear, Steph...Negative suggestion from a pic. Fact is the GOP can beat Hilary, the way it looks, I doubt they can beat Oboma. They know it so...pull the stops, go for the mud and BS. I don't like it, never have from any party.

stephanie
02-11-2008, 08:26 PM
Just more smear, Steph...Negative suggestion from a pic. Fact is the GOP can beat Hilary, the way it looks, I doubt they can beat Oboma. They know it so...pull the stops, go for the mud and BS. I don't like it, never have from any party.

I'm not trying to smear...I have just found some of his actions to be suspect..

Like not wearing the American flag label pin...

Just the way I look at things...

Mr. P
02-11-2008, 08:40 PM
I'm not trying to smear...I have just found some of his actions to be suspect..

Like not wearing the American flag label pin...

Just the way I look at things...

But yer repeating the smear by posting the pic..I've heard his explanations for all that stuff. It's trumped-up political smear BS, IMO.

stephanie
02-11-2008, 08:48 PM
But yer repeating the smear by posting the pic..I've heard his explanations for all that stuff. It's trumped-up political smear BS, IMO.

I heard his reasons for both also...and even they were suspect..

You know what they say... a picture is worth a 1000 words...

can't help that...

Mr. P
02-11-2008, 08:56 PM
I heard his reasons for both also...and even they were suspect..

You know what they say... a picture is worth a 1000 words...

can't help that...

Only IF true.

stephanie
02-11-2008, 09:18 PM
I actually trust Obama less than I do Hillary..at least with Hillary she is sorta out in the open about her socialism..

Obama just talks and preaches to the children(and he does that well), but he never really says what his plans are, and to me that's scarier...

Little-Acorn
02-11-2008, 09:30 PM
I actually trust Obama less than I do Hillary..at least with Hillary she is sorta out in the open about her socialism..

Obama just talks and preaches to the children(and he does that well), but he never really says what his plans are, and to me that's scarier...

Obama is one of the few people in the Senate who managed to compile a voting record even more liberal than Hillary's.

To me, THAT'S scarier.

Mr. P
02-11-2008, 09:32 PM
I actually trust Obama less than I do Hillary..at least with Hillary she is sorta out in the open about her socialism..

Obama just talks and preaches to the children(and he does that well), but he never really says what his plans are, and to me that's scarier...

They both scare me.

theHawk
02-11-2008, 09:57 PM
a picture for anyone who doesnt want to watch the video


It amazes me how stupid liberals are. A lot of stupid latinos and liberals hold Che up higher than our own founding fathers. It makes me sick.



F Che :fu:

manu1959
02-11-2008, 10:00 PM
It amazes me how stupid liberals are. A lot of stupid latinos and liberals hold Che up higher than our own founding fathers. It makes me sick.
F Che :fu:

i saw a dude in a che shirt in berkeley going into a mcdonalds.....he asked me what i was staring at....i said a hypocrite....

Mr. P
02-11-2008, 10:02 PM
i saw a dude in a che shirt in berkeley going into a mcdonalds.....he asked me what i was staring at....i said a hypocrite....

:clap: Perfect!