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Mr. P
03-20-2008, 11:32 AM
An interesting opinion from Dick Morris.

He could be correct.
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March 19, 2008
Wright's Rantings Won't Sink Obama
By Dick Morris

Will the Gospel According to Jeremiah Wright sink the Obama candidacy? Not very likely.

Let's start with two basic facts:

(a) Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) has already won the Democratic nomination. It's over. Regardless of how the remaining primaries and caucuses go, including Michigan and even Florida, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) can never catch Obama in elected delegates. His current lead of 170 pledged delegates will not be overcome no matter what happens. Even if Clinton beats him by 10 points in each of these primaries, he will still lead among elected delegates by over 100. The superdelegates will not override the will of the voters unless Obama is in jail. They will not let themselves in for a civil war by overruling a black man who is beloved by the young by going over the heads of the electorate and naming the candidate that lost the primaries as the nominee. Regardless of how damaged Obama may be by the Wright tapes, it will not provide sufficient cover or cause for them to do so.

(b) Wright's rantings are not reflective of Obama's views on anything. Why did he stay in the church? Because he's a black Chicago politician who comes from a mixed marriage and went to Columbia and Harvard. Suspected of not being black enough or sufficiently tied to the minority community, he needed the networking opportunities Wright afforded him in his church to get elected. If he had not risen to the top of Chicago black politics, we would never have heard of him. But obviously, he can't say that. So what should he say?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/wrights_rantings_wont_sink_oba.html

hjmick
03-20-2008, 11:48 AM
I read this yesterday and I think Morris nails it with (b). I am not as certain with (a) as Morris is, the Clintons are slippery and anything could happen.

Classact
03-20-2008, 11:54 AM
An interesting opinion from Dick Morris.

He could be correct.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/wrights_rantings_wont_sink_oba.htmlDick Morris hates Hillary more than any person on earth I think?

I use this thinking to say that Obama must step down or be killed to save the Democratic Party... Obama has the points to be the nominee but not the backing to be president following the Rev. Wright thing.

If a husband and wife were going through a divorce and the wife were suddenly killed who would be the suspect?

If the Democratic Party is having a fight where they must select a known loser or lose their Afro-American block vote there is motive to kill the loser to save the black vote for the party and still try to win with the second place candidate that doesn't have a Rev. Wright.

mundame
03-20-2008, 12:08 PM
Naaaaaah, a) is just Dick Morris' usual hate for Hillary. Of course Obama isn't the decided candidate: that's a lot of what all this is about. Good timing, huh?

Hillary is now ahead of Obama, and McCain is ahead of both of them, but ahead of Obama more. So Morris is dead wrong on all that.

Point about Dems losing the blacks: So? There are a LOT more whites, and numbers matter.


b) Sure, Morris is right about b, the sure-I'm-black-enough! IS why Obama committed to that crazy Wright's church, and he cannot say that.

He could call for the end of affirmative action, that's what all the whites actually want. And he still wouldn't lose the blacks: where are they gonna go?

Little-Acorn
03-20-2008, 12:24 PM
Obama must step down or be killed

and the wife were suddenly killed

Let me guess.

You haven't heard from your buddies in the Secret Service in a while, and you wish they'd drop by to chat and revisit old times, right?

You may have just gotten your wish. Nice work.

trobinett
03-20-2008, 12:34 PM
Obama has more traction than most political pundits thought he would have at this point in the process.

Obama CAN NOT defeat McCain, period, Hillary CAN, end of story.

The Dem's KNOW this, they have victory in their sights, but if Obama is able to grab the nomination they(the Dem's) will AGAIN snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.:poke:

mundame
03-20-2008, 12:44 PM
Obama has more traction than most political pundits thought he would have at this point in the process.

Obama CAN NOT defeat McCain, period, Hillary CAN, end of story.

The Dem's KNOW this, they have victory in their sights, but if Obama is able to grab the nomination they(the Dem's) will AGAIN snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.:poke:


Sure, I agree.

If Obama is chosen, white Americans will be treated to a long exposee of blacks' desire to blame whitey instead of taking responsibility: like the claim that HIV was developed by whites to kill blacks --- but actually, blacks are doing sexual and drug abuse behaviors that infect them. And the claim that crack cocaine was developed by whites to destroy blacks: but it is blacks taking it into their mouths. And it's available widely, but whites aren't generally using it.

White Americans seeing these claims that Wright and his church regularly make will be appalled and will continue to be appalled.

The other issue is affirmative action: whites all over the country want an end to racial preferences for blacks. It's been forty years that blacks have been getting preferences in schools and jobs, and that's more than enough.

Obama's campaign seems to show that blacks want to blame whitey for everything while demanding preferential treatment. That's a bad combination, and will defeat the Democrats, I predict, if they choose Obama.

I will vote for Hillary, but not for Obama.

Classact
03-20-2008, 12:47 PM
Let me guess.

You haven't heard from your buddies in the Secret Service in a while, and you wish they'd drop by to chat and revisit old times, right?

You may have just gotten your wish. Nice work.
Don't know any SS types but I bet the ones providing security for Obama are drawing straws that have to be close to him about now.

No reason for the SS to visit since it is quite evident that both racist whites and Democrats that desperately want to win the general election will want to get the loser Obama out of their way.

Classact
03-20-2008, 12:56 PM
Sure, I agree.

If Obama is chosen, white Americans will be treated to a long exposee of blacks' desire to blame whitey instead of taking responsibility: like the claim that HIV was developed by whites to kill blacks --- but actually, blacks are doing sexual and drug abuse behaviors that infect them. And the claim that crack cocaine was developed by whites to destroy blacks: but it is blacks taking it into their mouths. And it's available widely, but whites aren't generally using it.

White Americans seeing these claims that Wright and his church regularly make will be appalled and will continue to be appalled.

The other issue is affirmative action: whites all over the country want an end to racial preferences for blacks. It's been forty years that blacks have been getting preferences in schools and jobs, and that's more than enough.

Obama's campaign seems to show that blacks want to blame whitey for everything while demanding preferential treatment. That's a bad combination, and will defeat the Democrats, I predict, if they choose Obama.

I will vote for Hillary, but not for Obama.Will you stay at home or vote for McCain if the Democratic nominee is Obama?

Pale Rider
03-20-2008, 01:45 PM
That isn't much more than a campaign piece for hussein courtesy of Dick, who is an unabashed hillary HATER... of course he's going to shake his poms poms for hussein when it looks like hillary is going to get a surge.

mundame
03-20-2008, 03:35 PM
Will you stay at home or vote for McCain if the Democratic nominee is Obama?


I'll stay home. I feel bad about that, it would be a first for me, but I've pretty much had it with these unacceptable politicians.

Yurt
03-20-2008, 03:44 PM
I'll stay home. I feel bad about that, it would be a first for me, but I've pretty much had it with these unacceptable politicians.

and staying home helps how?

mundame
03-20-2008, 04:44 PM
and staying home helps how?

It helps me be true to myself.

If you think voting helps more, carry on and vote. I'm not promoting my position, I'm just telling you I've had it with these no-goods.

Yurt
03-20-2008, 04:46 PM
It helps me be true to myself.

If you think voting helps more, carry on and vote. I'm not promoting my position, I'm just telling you I've had it with these no-goods.

fair enough. being true to one's self is an important issue. if hitler had a strong chance of winning, would you vote for the party running against him?