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LiberalNation
03-24-2008, 11:20 PM
That's not good but also inevitable when a militia like sadrs operates seperate from the official Iraqi government and is almost nearly as powerfull.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20080325/wl_mcclatchy/2889217


BAGHDAD — A cease-fire critical to the improved security situation in Iraq appeared to unravel Monday when a militia loyal to radical Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada al Sadr began shutting down neighborhoods in west Baghdad and issuing demands of the central government. Simultaneously, in the strategic southern port city of Basra, where Sadr's Mahdi militia is in control, the Iraqi government launched a crackdown in the face of warnings by Sadr's followers that they'll fight government forces if any Sadrists are detained. By 1 a.m. Arab satellite news channels reported clashes between the Mahdi Army and police in Basra.

The freeze on offensive activity by Sadr's Mahdi Army has been a major factor behind the recent drop in violence in Iraq , and there were fears that the confrontation that's erupted in Baghdad and Basra could end the lull in attacks, assassinations, kidnappings and bombings.



On Sunday, a barrage of at least 17 rockets hit the heavily fortified Green Zone and surrounding neighborhoods, where both the U.S. and Iraqi government headquarters are housed, according to police. Most of them were launched from the outskirts of Sadr City and Bayaa, both Mahdi Army-controlled neighborhoods.

On Monday, the Sadrists all but shut down the neighborhoods they control on the west bank of Baghdad . Gunmen went to stores and ordered them to close as militiamen stood in the streets. Mosques used their loudspeakers to urge people to come forward and join the protest.

Fliers were distributed with the Sadrists' three demands of the Iraqi government: to release detainees, stop targeting Sadrist members and apologize to the families and the tribal sheiks of the men.

LiberalNation
03-25-2008, 02:36 PM
Sadr militia battle troops in four Iraqi cities

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080325/ts_afp/iraq


BAGHDAD (AFP) - Moqtada al-Sadr's militiamen battled troops in four Iraqi cities on Tuesday, including the capital, as the hardline Shiite cleric threatened a countrywide campaign of civil revolt.

theHawk
03-25-2008, 04:32 PM
I think its time we dropped a smart bomb on this asswipe Al-Sadr.

Dilloduck
03-25-2008, 05:29 PM
I think its time we dropped a smart bomb on this asswipe Al-Sadr.

Just let Obama go have a heart to heart chat with him. Heck--bring Hillary too so she doesn't whine about being disenfranchised. :cool:

bullypulpit
03-26-2008, 04:37 AM
So much for the "Surge". But this trouble has been brewing for weeks now...More of our troops caught in the middle of a bloody internecine fight that's been going on for some 700 years.

LiberalNation
03-26-2008, 12:19 PM
The Threat of a Re-Surge in Iraq

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20080326/wl_time/thethreatofaresurgeiniraq;_ylt=AsLfWJwOpGfcGcPyZ.n EvKkDW7oF


Could Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's attempts to re-establish control over Basra backfire? There is a growing possibility that it could become a wider intra-Shi'ite war, drawing in the forces loyal to radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, whose ceasefire has been key to the success of the U.S. "surge"? If so, the consequences for American military strategy in Iraq in an all-important political year will be grave.

Maliki's government targeted Basra because it could. Unlike many other southern cities where fighting has escalated in recent weeks, Maliki has built an independent power base among the security forces there. But Tuesday's sweep of Basra could turn sour in other southern cities where the central government's power is weak. Indeed, many Shi'ites are seeing this not just as an example of the Shi'ite Maliki taking on other Shi'ites (including Sadrists) but of America backing the Prime Minister up in a de facto Shi'a civil war. Iraqi government forces have attacked Shi'ite militias and gangs in at least seven major southern Iraq cities in the past two weeks. And America has been there to support Maliki's troops every time.


In response, Sadr loyalists have already taken to the streets in Baghdad, where U.S. troops will have to deal with the backlash. U.S. officials have so far shied away from blaming Sadr for the recent rise of violence (including an Easter attack on the Green Zone), mostly because Sadr's ceasefire has been key to the success of the surge. (General David Petraeus has pointed the finger at Iran instead.) But as clashes increase, they may not be able to dance around it for much longer.

Classact
03-26-2008, 12:39 PM
So much for the "Surge". But this trouble has been brewing for weeks now...More of our troops caught in the middle of a bloody internecine fight that's been going on for some 700 years.The primary battle is between Iraqi military and Al-Sadr. However Al-Sadr has instructed his followers to attack Americans and not attack Iraqis? Guess he along with Iraq are playing American politics?

LiberalNation
03-31-2008, 12:27 PM
Gates: Troop plan set despite violence (of course, it's an election year plus the military prolly can't keep it up without some very unhappy people)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_iraq;_ylt=AgaAI0xnF3qbATRG3ZbF.EGs0NUE

COPENHAGEN, Denmark - The flare-up in violence in Shiite areas of southern Iraq and Baghdad has yet to alter U.S. plans to withdraw more combat forces this spring, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Monday.

Gates, speaking to reporters traveling with him from Brussels, Belgium, to the Danish capital, offered a mildly upbeat assessment of the Iraqi government's military intervention in the southern Iraqi city of Basra.

He said Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is to be commended for taking the initiative in Basra, and he described the Iraqi security forces as having performed reasonably well, with American support.

Kathianne
04-01-2008, 02:02 AM
The guy is in hiding, this is the best post I've seen regarding the media's current declaration of losing:

http://www.deanesmay.com/2008/03/31/sadrs-triumphant-surrender/


Sadr’s Triumphant Surrender

by Dave Price

The media appear to be unanimous: by getting his butt kicked, surrendering control of Basra, and being mocked as an Iranian catspaw Sadr has… succeeded.

Many Iraqi politicians say that Mr. Maliki’s political capital has been severely depleted by the Basra campaign

Really? The same Iraqi politicians who were so opposed to Sadr they boycotted talks aimed at a peaceful resolution, calling it a “law and order” issue, thus preventing a quorum?

and that he is in the curious position of having to turn to Mr. Sadr, a longtime rival, for a way out.

Yes, how strange that he would talk to the enemy when negotiating that enemy’s surrender. Bizarre, yet. Perhaps even unique in the annals of war.

It’s hard to believe how reality-averse the analysis on this confrontation has been:

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