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mrg666
02-27-2007, 10:33 AM
MOUNT VERNON, N.Y. — Two weeks after she moved here from her native Brazil, Maria de Oliveira signed up for free English classes at a squat storefront in this working-class suburb, figuring that with an associate’s degree and three years as an administrative assistant, she could find a good job in America so long as she spoke the language
The woman who runs the classes at Mount Vernon’s Workforce and Career Preparation Center added Ms. Oliveira’s name to her pink binder, at the bottom of a 90-person waiting list that stretched across seven pages. That was in October. Ms. Oliveira, 26, finally got a seat in the class on Jan. 16.

“I keep wondering how much more I’d know if I hadn’t had to wait so long,” she said in Portuguese.

As immigrants increasingly settle away from large urban centers — New York’s suburbs have had a net gain of 225,000 since 2000, compared with 44,000 in the city — many are waiting months or even years to get into government-financed English classes, which are often overcrowded and lack textbooks.
survey last year by the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials found that in 12 states, 60 percent of the free English programs had waiting lists, ranging from a few months in Colorado and Nevada to as long as two years in New Mexico and Massachusetts, where the statewide list has about 16,000 names.

The United States Department of Education counted 1.2 million adults enrolled in public English programs in 2005 — about 1 in 10 of the 10.3 million foreign-born residents 16 and older who speak English “less than very well,” or not at all, according to census figures from the same year. Federal money for such classes is matched at varying rates from state to state, leaving an uneven patchwork of programs that advocates say nowhere meets the need.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/27/ed...er&oref=slogin

shattered
02-27-2007, 10:35 AM
Rosetta Stone.

For about $150 to $300, you can learn any language quickly, and completely - in your own home.

5stringJeff
02-27-2007, 11:25 AM
Rosetta Stone.

For about $150 to $300, you can learn any language quickly, and completely - in your own home.

Didn't you read the story? They wanted free English classes! :rolleyes:

mrg666
02-27-2007, 11:36 AM
Didn't you read the story? They wanted free English classes! :rolleyes:

want free lessons
at the tax payers expense to boot:pee:

5stringJeff
02-27-2007, 11:44 AM
However, I am encouraged that immigrants want to learn English.

glockmail
02-27-2007, 12:33 PM
However, I am encouraged that immigrants want to learn English. Its only the Mexicans who don't want to learn. There is a political reason for that.

shattered
02-27-2007, 09:41 PM
Didn't you read the story? They wanted free English classes! :rolleyes:

Sure I did.

And I want a free car, and a free house, and free food and free clothes, and... Need I go on?

Yurt
02-27-2007, 09:47 PM
Sure I did.

And I want a free car, and a free house, and free food and free clothes, and... Need I go on?

I wonder if Brazil gives out free spanish language lessons? Or Mexico, or any other country down there? My hunch is they don't. That being, where do they get this idea that they are entitled to so much upon entering America? Those that have entered before knew the risks, and knew the potential gains, hence the moves. But they did not come here EXPECTING a free handout. What has changed?

shattered
02-27-2007, 09:48 PM
I wonder if Brazil gives out free spanish language lessons? Or Mexico, or any other country down there? My hunch is they don't. That being, where do they get this idea that they are entitled to so much upon entering America? Those that have entered before knew the risks, and knew the potential gains, hence the moves. But they did not come here EXPECTING a free handout. What has changed?

Well, you see.. Once upon a time, there was this girl liberal, and she met this boy liberal, and they had little liberal babies....

Yurt
02-27-2007, 09:55 PM
Well, you see.. Once upon a time, there was this girl liberal, and she met this boy liberal, and they had little liberal babies....

And the geneticist said: they are now "fascists" because when you have two liberals in the gene pool and both X Y genes are liberal, you have a fascist. Though liberals will bemoan my calling them fascists, they are more than socialists because they have no problem using fascists means to keep their socialists goals.

=)

Hugh Lincoln
02-27-2007, 09:58 PM
I'm still waiting for Americans to learn English.

Yurt
02-27-2007, 10:07 PM
I'm still waiting for Americans to learn English.

That is the silliest post I have seen. You know full well this is about getting to this country country and communicating simple terms, NOT writing theseseseseseseeses . It is about people coming here and expecting free handouts. They don't even expect that in their own countries. And Mr. Linguist, you know full well that in those countries that language is different based on area, race, class and education. :poke:


Give me a break.

trobinett
02-28-2007, 12:49 PM
I'm still waiting for you all to learn Cherokee.:lol: