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Hobbit
04-22-2008, 11:06 AM
Here's a very good column on why Patrick Moore, one of the founders of Greenpeace, felt the need to leave the organization.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120882720657033391.html?mod=opinion_main_comment aries


In 1971 an environmental and antiwar ethic was taking root in Canada, and I chose to participate. As I completed a Ph.D. in ecology, I combined my science background with the strong media skills of my colleagues. In keeping with our pacifist views, we started Greenpeace.

But I later learned that the environmental movement is not always guided by science. As we celebrate Earth Day today, this is a good lesson to keep in mind.

mundame
04-22-2008, 11:18 AM
I later learned that the environmental movement is not always guided by science. As we celebrate Earth Day today, this is a good lesson to keep in mind.

At first, many of the causes we championed, such as opposition to nuclear testing and protection of whales, stemmed from our scientific knowledge of nuclear physics and marine biology. But after six years as one of five directors of Greenpeace International, I observed that none of my fellow directors had any formal science education. They were either political activists or environmental entrepreneurs. Ultimately, a trend toward abandoning scientific objectivity in favor of political agendas forced me to leave Greenpeace in 1986.

The breaking point was a Greenpeace decision to support a world-wide ban on chlorine. Science shows that adding chlorine to drinking water was the biggest advance in the history of public health, virtually eradicating water-borne diseases such as cholera. And the majority of our pharmaceuticals are based on chlorine chemistry. Simply put, chlorine is essential for our health.

My former colleagues ignored science and supported the ban, forcing my departure. Despite science concluding no known health risks – and ample benefits – from chlorine in drinking water, Greenpeace and other environmental groups have opposed its use for more than 20 years.


"abandoning scientific objectivity in favor of political agendas"

Well...........WHAT political agenda? I have understood for some time that the "global warming" nonsense is first and foremost an anti-Bush expression. If you hate Bush, you're for global warming. When a Dem takes power, "global warming" will mysteriously disappear.

I think a lot of these green sorts of causes have a hidden agenda: they are really against corporations, nationstates, government. I think they are essentially Marxist: a cover for Marxism, which has become unfashionable, so they have to sneak it in under cover of baby seals and spotted owls.

Gaffer
04-22-2008, 05:00 PM
"abandoning scientific objectivity in favor of political agendas"

Well...........WHAT political agenda? I have understood for some time that the "global warming" nonsense is first and foremost an anti-Bush expression. If you hate Bush, you're for global warming. When a Dem takes power, "global warming" will mysteriously disappear.

I think a lot of these green sorts of causes have a hidden agenda: they are really against corporations, nationstates, government. I think they are essentially Marxist: a cover for Marxism, which has become unfashionable, so they have to sneak it in under cover of baby seals and spotted owls.

Your absolutely right on that.