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red states rule
04-23-2008, 06:10 AM
After a huge loss, Barry is showing why he will not be the next President of the US

He outspent Hillary 3 to 1; and still lost by 10 points and over 200,000 votes

Hillary will continue the uncivil war, and will bloody Barry up even more.


Obama can't shake off Clinton

Barack Obama could not “close the deal” in Pennsylvania on Tuesday night. Hillary Clinton said so, and just about every talking head on TV used that phrase.

Though Obama has won twice as many contests as Clinton, this man clearly suffers from a failure to close.

Why? It may be because, as Clinton argues in her TV ads, he does not have “what it takes” to be president and lead the nation in crisis. (The ad features pictures not just of Osama bin Laden, but also of Pearl Harbor, suggesting, I guess, that Clinton will protect us not just from Al Qaeda but also from the Japanese.)

While Clinton did not actually call Obama a wimp in Pennsylvania, she did say he was “elitist and out of touch” and “demeaning.” She can also drink him under the table. (And he stinks at bowling.)

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9813.html

Kathianne
04-23-2008, 06:53 AM
After a huge loss, Barry is showing why he will not be the next President of the US

He outspent Hillary 3 to 1; and still lost by 10 points and over 200,000 votes

Hillary will continue the uncivil war, and will bloody Barry up even more.


Obama can't shake off Clinton

Barack Obama could not “close the deal” in Pennsylvania on Tuesday night. Hillary Clinton said so, and just about every talking head on TV used that phrase.

Though Obama has won twice as many contests as Clinton, this man clearly suffers from a failure to close.

Why? It may be because, as Clinton argues in her TV ads, he does not have “what it takes” to be president and lead the nation in crisis. (The ad features pictures not just of Osama bin Laden, but also of Pearl Harbor, suggesting, I guess, that Clinton will protect us not just from Al Qaeda but also from the Japanese.)

While Clinton did not actually call Obama a wimp in Pennsylvania, she did say he was “elitist and out of touch” and “demeaning.” She can also drink him under the table. (And he stinks at bowling.)

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9813.html

Yep, he's beginning to look like Romney.

red states rule
04-23-2008, 06:58 AM
Yep, he's beginning to look like Romney.

I am loving watching the Dem party implode, In a year that was made for them, they are finding ways to lose

While I have no love for McCain, and I thought he was another Bob Dole bieng led to slaughter - he is the luckiest politican I have ever seen

Kathianne
04-23-2008, 07:02 AM
I am loving watching the Dem party implode, In a year that was made for them, they are finding ways to lose

While I have no love for McCain, and I thought he was another Bob Dole bieng led to slaughter - he is the luckiest politican I have ever seen

Lots like the Palestinians, the never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. ;)

red states rule
04-23-2008, 07:04 AM
Lots like the Palestinians, the never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. ;)

Well said Kathianne

The Dems were ready to open fire on McCain - instead they formed the circular firing squad :laugh2:

GW in Ohio
04-23-2008, 07:59 AM
Hillary's win in Pennsylvania is significant mainly for its symbolic value. It showed she can still win big states.

But the mathematics of the Democrat race are inexorable. As Dick Morris says in today's New York Post:


The primaries coming up in the next two weeks - Indiana and North Carolina - are likely to give Obama back a goodly portion of those delegates. By the time all the primaries have been held, after June 3, there is no doubt that Obama will lead by more than 100 elected delegates, and likely 150. From there, it will be an easy route to the nomination.

The Democratic superdelegates aren't about to risk a massive and sanguinary civil war by taking the nomination away from the candidate who won more elected delegates. If they ever tried it, we'd see a repeat of the demonstrations that smashed the 1968 Chicago convention and ruined Hubert Humphrey's chances of victory.

But don't expect the open primaries of Indiana and North Carolina to behave like Pennsylvania's geriatrics. Both states are younger, especially North Carolina, and independents can vote in each primary. (North Carolina is where a lot of the young people who fled Pennsylvania winters and job losses ended up).

Over the next two weeks, we'll be treated to much hoopla about how the Democratic race is once again up for grabs. Then, on May 5, Hillary's hopes will be dashed once more.

And then? After the votes are counted in all the primaries, look for the Gang of Four - Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean and John Edwards - to join together and issue a challenge to the superdelegates: Make up your minds.

Together, they'll probably demand that these appointed delegates commit to one candidate or the other by mid June. And since the primaries will have lifted Obama over 1,900 delegates (elected and super), he'll only need about 100 more, out of about 300 uncommitted superdelegates.

Their hands forced, enough superdelegates will go to Obama to put him over the top - he'll be the candidate.

That's all, folks.

red states rule
04-23-2008, 08:02 AM
Hillary's win in Pennsylvania is significant mainly for its symbolic value. It showed she can still win big states.

But the mathematics of the Democrat race are inexorable. As Dick Morris says in today's New York Post:

It will be up to the SD's and Hillary is doing the arm twisting

Operation Chaos is a smashing success!!!

MtnBiker
04-23-2008, 08:32 AM
Is there going to be a Obama/Clinton ticket?

MtnBiker
04-23-2008, 08:33 AM
It will be up to the SD's and Hillary is doing the arm twisting

Operation Chaos is a smashing success!!!

Good lord RSR you sound like a broken record.

red states rule
04-23-2008, 08:39 AM
Is there going to be a Obama/Clinton ticket?

I doubt it. They have bloodied each other to much, and it will only get worse

I believe Bary said no way as far as VP postion

Gaffer
04-23-2008, 09:22 AM
Bush 1 said no way to a VP slot when he was going against Reagan. But when Reagan asked him to be VP he almost tripped over himself jumping up to accept it.

Even with the bad blood the dems are going to look at getting their power and if that means a clinton obama ticket they will do just that. Party above all with those people. If they don't team up the party will implode.

Yurt
04-23-2008, 10:13 AM
The Clinton campaign would do even better to use population rather than electoral votes, since smaller states are overrepresented in the Electoral College. By my count, based on the 2007 Census estimates, Clinton's states have 132,214,460 people (160,537,525 if you include Florida and Michigan), and Obama's states have 101,689,480 people. States with 39,394,152 people have yet to vote. In percentage terms this means Clinton's states have 44 percent of the nation's population (53 percent if you include Florida and Michigan) and Obama's states have 34 percent of the nation's population. The yet-to-vote states have 13 percent of the nation's population.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/3/28/projection-clinton-wins-popular-vote-obama-wins-delegate-count.html

red states rule
04-23-2008, 10:14 AM
The Clinton campaign would do even better to use population rather than electoral votes, since smaller states are overrepresented in the Electoral College. By my count, based on the 2007 Census estimates, Clinton's states have 132,214,460 people (160,537,525 if you include Florida and Michigan), and Obama's states have 101,689,480 people. States with 39,394,152 people have yet to vote. In percentage terms this means Clinton's states have 44 percent of the nation's population (53 percent if you include Florida and Michigan) and Obama's states have 34 percent of the nation's population. The yet-to-vote states have 13 percent of the nation's population.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/3/28/projection-clinton-wins-popular-vote-obama-wins-delegate-count.html

What are Dems going to do about MI and FL. If they are included, Hillary would take the popular vote

The SD's are going to pick the winner, and no mater who they pick - half the Dem party is going to be pissed off

GW in Ohio
04-23-2008, 10:38 AM
What are Dems going to do about MI and FL. If they are included, Hillary would take the popular vote

The SD's are going to pick the winner, and no mater who they pick - half the Dem party is going to be pissed off

The Democratic party is willing for Michigan and Florida to have do-over primaries, but there are problems about who is going to finance them.

After Clinton's decisive win in PA, I think the Democrats are going to have to influence Obama to offer her the VP spot. It'll be up to her to take it or go back to the Senate.

red states rule
04-23-2008, 10:41 AM
The Democratic party is willing for Michigan and Florida to have do-over primaries, but there are problems about who is going to finance them.

After Clinton's decisive win in PA, I think the Democrats are going to have to influence Obama to offer her the VP spot. It'll be up to her to take it or go back to the Senate.

Why not have rich libs like Kennedy, Kerry, Clinton, Barry, and others write a check?

Hillary take the #2 slot? Please! We are talking about the "smartest women in the world" here

Hillary has no intention of doing anything except taking this fight to Denver.

theHawk
04-23-2008, 11:12 AM
Is there going to be a Obama/Clinton ticket?

Unlikely, they need to be able to cater to the 'racist and sexist' white man vote.

OCA
04-23-2008, 02:38 PM
What are Dems going to do about MI and FL. If they are included, Hillary would take the popular vote

The SD's are going to pick the winner, and no mater who they pick - half the Dem party is going to be pissed off


They will be pissed for about a week then rally around Hillary and the country's hatred of all things Republican.

They will hang McCain on Iraq, his campaign will die in the sands surrounding Basra guaranteed.

OCA
04-23-2008, 02:40 PM
The Democratic party is willing for Michigan and Florida to have do-over primaries, but there are problems about who is going to finance them.

After Clinton's decisive win in PA, I think the Democrats are going to have to influence Obama to offer her the VP spot. It'll be up to her to take it or go back to the Senate.


Obama is done, all his momentum is gone. Middle class blue collar voters no longer support him, all he has left is Blacks and college kids and that ain't enough. The superdelegates will have deserted him by convention time.

OCA
04-23-2008, 02:41 PM
Why not have rich libs like Kennedy, Kerry, Clinton, Barry, and others write a check?

Hillary take the #2 slot? Please! We are talking about the "smartest women in the world" here

Hillary has no intention of doing anything except taking this fight to Denver.

Why shouldn't she? She has the support of a majority of Democrats.

red states rule
04-24-2008, 05:31 AM
Hillary is starting to reap the benefits of her huge win in PA. Now she is getting the cash she needs to compete


Internet cash revives Clinton campaign
By JEANNE CUMMINGS | 4/24/08 4:54 AM EST

Hillary Clinton’s campaign says it raised $10 million in Internet donations after her Pennsylvania primary victory on Tuesday night.

If so, that’s a record haul and one desperately needed by Clinton, who is essentially broke after Democratic rival Barack Obama forced her to spend all her resources to capture the must-win state.

In May, the candidates will compete in a succession of contests that will leave little time for replenishing campaign war chests in between.

Several of those contests – Indiana, North Carolina and Kentucky – are also home to pricey media markets. In Indiana, for instance, candidates must advertise in six markets, including ultra-expensive Chicago, to reach the entire state.

“The closer the primaries are bunched together, the more compressed the cash crunch gets and the demands for money are relentless,” said Bill Carrick, a Democratic political adviser who is not affiliated with the campaigns.

Clinton has already scheduled two fundraisers in early May and her finance team leaders are encouraging supporters to dig deep or reach further and more creatively for new donors.

Her campaign is also trying to ratchet up pressure on Obama to agree to more debates, which offer invaluable amounts of free media time. Thus far, Obama has turned down debate offers.

for the complete article

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9845.html

The Bare Knuckled Pundit
04-24-2008, 10:06 PM
With Hillary raking in more than $10 million in the first two days following her resounding success, it is clear that the old political axiom that money follows momentum still holds true. On a related note, grocery stores across the nation reported a sudden rash of bare shelves in the children’s drinks section as millions of otherwise sane individuals rushed to toast their contributions with Clinton Kool-Aid.

In stark contrast to the buoyant mood of the Clintonistas, the Obama Maniacs appeared more depressed than manic. Indeed, it was a lonely ol' night in Evansville, Indiana as the Maniacs gathered for what quickly became an exercise in political triage.

Having been mauled beneath the treads of Hillary’s Pennsylvanian blitzkrieg, the electric atmosphere that is the hallmark of Obama’s campaign rallies was strikingly absent. Clearly suffering from a crisis of confidence after his bruising double-digit defeat, Barack delivered a variation of his standard stump speech with less than convincing enthusiasm. Some speculate that the bitter taste of Hillary's jackboots in his mouth may have distracted the candidate somewhat and impacted his delivery.

Playing on the requisite “Yes, we can!” tag line, he attempted to rally his demoralized troops for a rear-guard defense of the Democratic nomination in Indiana. Only time will tell if the Obama line will hold in the political Battle of the Bulge as Hillary’s reenergized juggernaut mercilessly bears down on them in the Hoosier State.

red states rule
04-25-2008, 05:01 AM
Barry has many issues, and they are all hitting him at the same time. His inability to deal with them is dragging down his chances of winning in November, and the Dem party

2 for the price of 1


Obama's Revealing 'Distractions'
By Charles Krauthammer

Real change has never been easy. ... The status quo in Washington will fight. They will fight harder than ever to divide us and distract us with ads and attacks from now until November.
-- Barack Obama, Pennsylvania primary night speech

WASHINGTON -- With that, Obama identified the new public enemy: the "distractions" foisted upon a pliable electorate by the malevolent forces of the status quo, i.e., those who might wish to see someone else become president next January. "It's easy to get caught up in the distractions and the silliness and the tit for tat that consumes our politics" and "trivializes the profound issues" that face our country, he warned sternly. These must be resisted.

Why? Because Obama understands that the real threat to his candidacy is less Hillary Clinton and John McCain than his own character and cultural attitudes. He came out of nowhere with his autobiography already written, then saw it embellished daily by the hagiographic coverage and kid-gloves questioning of a supine press. (Which is why those "Saturday Night Live" parodies were so devastatingly effective.)

Then came the three amigos: Tony Rezko, the indicted fixer; Jeremiah Wright, the racist reverend; William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist. And then Obama's own anthropological observation that "bitter" working-class whites cling to guns and religion because they misapprehend their real class interests.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/obamas_revealing_distractions.html