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Pale Rider
04-30-2008, 09:48 AM
Army Recruits Who Get In Despite Bad Conduct Promoted Faster



By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Writer
Tue Apr 29, 10:16 PM ET

WASHINGTON - Soldiers who need special waivers to get into the Army because of bad behavior go AWOL more often and face more courts-martial. But they also get promoted faster and re-enlist at a higher rate, according to an internal military study obtained by The Associated Press.

The Army study late last year concluded that taking a chance on a well-screened applicant with a criminal, bad driving or drug record usually pays off. And both the Army and the Marines have been bringing in more recruits with blemished records. Still, senior leaders have called for additional studies, to help determine the impact of the waivers on the Army.

"We believe that so far the return outweighs the risk," said Army Col. Kent M. Miller, who headed the team that conducted the study.

The information has not been released to the public, but the AP obtained a copy of the study.

The statistics show that recruits with criminal records or other drug and alcohol issues have more discipline problems than those without records. Those recruits also are a bit more likely to drop out of the Army because of alcohol.

On the brighter side, those with waivers earn more medals for valor and tend to stay in the Army longer.

Aritcle continues here... (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080430/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/military_waivers_5)

DragonStryk72
04-30-2008, 11:08 AM
Well, I think alot of it has to do with the fact that these people are finally getting the discipline they weren't getting elsewhere. Military life does that to you.

Yeah, there are always going to be the ones who really are just determined to remain fuck-ups, but they're at least being giving the last chance to pull their shit together, and if they choose to abuse that chance, then it's on them, and I've got no sympathies left for them.

Pale Rider
04-30-2008, 02:01 PM
I had to explain a multitude of tickets, disorderly conducts, and operating motor vehicle without owners consent myself when I joined. I also went on to train in the second hardest school in the Air Force Tech Training program, which was Integrated Avionics Instrumentation/Flight Controls Systems Specialist. The only one harder and longer in late 1979 was Missiles. I also made every stripe possible in minimum time including Below The Zone to E-4 Senior Airman in 9 months, instead of 20. I reenlisted with full intentions of lifing it, but suffered multiple injuries which prevented me from continuing in my AFSC, so I got out, honorably, after eight years. Yeah I'd say the Air Force did good giving me a chance too.