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82Marine89
05-11-2008, 04:47 PM
So it's OK to invade one military dictatorship that oppresses its citizens, but not another?

The disaster in Burma presents the world with perhaps its most serious humanitarian crisis since the 2004 Asian tsunami. By most reliable estimates, close to 100,000 people are dead. Delays in delivering relief to the victims, the inaccessibility of the stricken areas and the poor state of Burma's infrastructure and health systems mean that number is sure to rise. With as many as 1 million people still at risk, it is conceivable that the death toll will, within days, approach that of the entire number of civilians killed in the genocide in Darfur.

So what is the world doing about it? Not much. The military regime that runs Burma initially signaled it would accept outside relief, but has imposed so many conditions on those who would actually deliver it that barely a trickle has made it through. Aid workers have been held at airports. U.N. food shipments have been seized. U.S. naval ships packed with food and medicine idle in the Gulf of Thailand, waiting for an all-clear that may never come.

Burma's rulers have relented slightly, agreeing Friday to let in supplies and perhaps even some foreign relief workers. The government says it will allow a US C-130 transport plane to land inside Burma Monday. But it's hard to imagine a regime this insular and paranoid accepting robust aid from the U.S. military, let alone agreeing to the presence of U.S. Marines on Burmese soil - as Thailand and Indonesia did after the tsunami. The trouble is that the Burmese haven't shown the ability or willingness to deploy the kind of assets needed to deal with a calamity of this scale - and the longer Burma resists offers of help, the more likely it is that the disaster will devolve beyond anyone's control. "We're in 2008, not 1908," says Jan Egeland, the former U.N. emergency relief coordinator. "A lot is at stake here. If we let them get away with murder we may set a very dangerous precedent."

That's why it's time to consider a more serious option: invading Burma. Some observers, including former USAID director Andrew Natsios, have called on the U.S. to unilaterally begin air drops to the Burmese people regardless of what the junta says. The Bush Administration has so far rejected the idea - "I can't imagine us going in without the permission of the Myanmar government," Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Thursday - but it's not without precedent: as Natsios pointed out to the Wall Street Journal, the U.S. has facilitated the delivery of humanitarian aid without the host government's consent in places like Bosnia and Sudan.

A coercive humanitarian intervention would be complicated and costly. During the 2004 tsunami, some 24 U.S. ships and 16,000 troops were deployed in countries across the region; the mission cost the U.S. $5 million a day. Ultimately, the U.S. pledged nearly $900 million to tsunami relief. (By contrast, it has offered just $3.25 million to Burma.) But the risks would be greater this time: the Burmese government's xenophobia and insecurity make them prone to view U.S. troops - or worse, foreign relief workers - as hostile forces. (Remember Black Hawk Down?) Even if the U.S. and its allies made clear that their actions were strictly for humanitarian purposes, it's unlikely the junta would believe them. "You have to think it through - do you want to secure an area of the country by military force? What kinds of potential security risks would that create?" says Egelend. "I can't imagine any humanitarian organization wanting to shoot their way in with food."

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Dilloduck
05-11-2008, 05:39 PM
I'd like to see America help. I think the only thing standing in the way are the critics who are eager to make it look like a huge mistake ( I mean it could even be a quagmire ). :eek:

red states rule
05-11-2008, 05:41 PM
At least one liberal thinks Pres Bush is invading Myanmar


Bush Orders Warships to Myanmar
Four U.S. Navy warships were ordered to the cyclone-ravaged nation of Myanmar today, exactly 1875 days after Bush declared "Mission Accomplished" aboard an aircraft carrier while Iraq, and our Constitution burned.

The Shrub insists, of course, that these vessels are simply carrying much needed food and supplies to the Myanmar people. I suppose that after causing the cyclone with his refusal to ratify Kyoto, he can buy their silence with a few crates of Spam. But the Myanmarian government knows better. They're fully aware that Bush's sudden display of altruism is merely a thinly veiled ploy to invade their Socialist Utopia and steal their secrets - such as their wonderful socialized health care system. No doubt Bush also has his eye on their vast, untapped supply of biting gnats, as well as the coveted Yarping Gibbon, whose left testicle is said to be a strong aphrodisiac when ground into a fine powder and mixed with the milk of the Yak. Such a prize would be a perfect wedding gift for his drunk of a slut daughter who will be expected to get crackin' on producing the next heir to the Chimp dynasty, and perhaps one day the White House.

No matter. The Bushes are as bereft of guilt as they are of compassion. I'm sure Jenjen will sleep comfortably in her wedding bed while Bush's battleships rain fire on Myanmar under the guise of "humanitarian relief".

http://blamebush.typepad.com/blamebush/2008/05/bush-orders-war.html

Abbey Marie
05-11-2008, 07:58 PM
At least one liberal thinks Pres Bush is invading Myanmar


Bush Orders Warships to Myanmar
Four U.S. Navy warships were ordered to the cyclone-ravaged nation of Myanmar today, exactly 1875 days after Bush declared "Mission Accomplished" aboard an aircraft carrier while Iraq, and our Constitution burned.

The Shrub insists, of course, that these vessels are simply carrying much needed food and supplies to the Myanmar people. I suppose that after causing the cyclone with his refusal to ratify Kyoto, he can buy their silence with a few crates of Spam. But the Myanmarian government knows better. They're fully aware that Bush's sudden display of altruism is merely a thinly veiled ploy to invade their Socialist Utopia and steal their secrets - such as their wonderful socialized health care system. No doubt Bush also has his eye on their vast, untapped supply of biting gnats, as well as the coveted Yarping Gibbon, whose left testicle is said to be a strong aphrodisiac when ground into a fine powder and mixed with the milk of the Yak. Such a prize would be a perfect wedding gift for his drunk of a slut daughter who will be expected to get crackin' on producing the next heir to the Chimp dynasty, and perhaps one day the White House.

No matter. The Bushes are as bereft of guilt as they are of compassion. I'm sure Jenjen will sleep comfortably in her wedding bed while Bush's battleships rain fire on Myanmar under the guise of "humanitarian relief".

http://blamebush.typepad.com/blamebush/2008/05/bush-orders-war.html

:laugh2: Surely this was posted from the community room at a Psych ward.

Or- did Joe Steel write it?


http://www.tvacres.com/images/koolaid5b.jpg

http://www.ngpsoftware.com/files/images/lefty_kool_aid.jpg

theHawk
05-11-2008, 09:32 PM
Suddenly liberals care about brown skinned people enough to take action?

Somehow I doubt it!

red states rule
05-12-2008, 05:19 AM
:laugh2: Surely this was posted from the community room at a Psych ward.

Or- did Joe Steel write it?


http://www.tvacres.com/images/koolaid5b.jpg

http://www.ngpsoftware.com/files/images/lefty_kool_aid.jpg

or it could have come from MFM writing from the local Obama 08 office

gabosaurus
05-12-2008, 10:06 PM
The picture looks like it was taken in RSR's bedroom.