States case against polygamists weakening

[avatar4321]

Texas's case weakens as more mother's are found to be adults (http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_9330822)

Apparently more of the "teen" mothers are being reclassified as adults, Including one who is 27 and provided identification of her age on the day of the raid.

The more facts seem to leak out about all this situation, the more it seems that the state really fouled up on this when they confiscated every child.

And for story number two:

We'll take your children, you take the bill (http://origin.sltrib.com/news/ci_9332171)

Apparently the state wants the families to pay the costs incurred when the state took their children away from them. This is just a legal nightmare. You have politicians and officials abusing their authority and than expecting those on the recieving end of their abuse paying for their overreaching.

The people who should be paying for this are the incompetant corrupt bueauracrats who screwed everything up to begin with. But they wont get the bill, they'll just pass the buck to the tax payers.

This is the problem with government "help". You get screwed in the end.

[DragonStryk72]

Texas's case weakens as more mother's are found to be adults (http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_9330822)

Apparently more of the "teen" mothers are being reclassified as adults, Including one who is 27 and provided identification of her age on the day of the raid.

The more facts seem to leak out about all this situation, the more it seems that the state really fouled up on this when they confiscated every child.

And for story number two:

We'll take your children, you take the bill (http://origin.sltrib.com/news/ci_9332171)

Apparently the state wants the families to pay the costs incurred when the state took their children away from them. This is just a legal nightmare. You have politicians and officials abusing their authority and than expecting those on the recieving end of their abuse paying for their overreaching.

The people who should be paying for this are the incompetant corrupt bueauracrats who screwed everything up to begin with. But they wont get the bill, they'll just pass the buck to the tax payers.

This is the problem with government "help". You get screwed in the end.

As well, they seem to be bitching about a 17 year old girl getting pregnant twice. Um, yeah, I think we already have teen pregnancy, only without any form of marriage involved in it.

This was just such a huge overstep of government authority, and it was done on shoddy evidence. They stripped innocent people of their families, and now they're going to try to stick them with the bill. completely disgraceful.

[Pale Rider]

Well I heard on the news yesterday that the FBI is involved now. So far they've found over 100 of the cults children aren't even related to said parents, and welfare fraud is suspected. All the sects finances are under investigation.

[mundame]

Well I heard on the news yesterday that the FBI is involved now. So far they've found over 100 of the cults children aren't even related to said parents, and welfare fraud is suspected. All the sects finances are under investigation.


Welfare fraud suspected?? They know darn well that's how these people support themselves. They hate the government and milk it for all their living money. All these unmarried women -- unmarried in any legal sense -- apply for welfare; they call it "bleeding the Beast."

What, you think one of these males supports all seven wives with five children each? Out in the boonies of Texas with no jobs?


There's an editorial in the Wall Street Journal today saying these types are just throwbacks to chimp and baboon and orangutang dominant male behavior: take control of all the females and throw out as many other males as they can.

The boys end up as male prostitutes on the streets of Phoenix; it's been a real problem for that city for YEARS.


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Civilization and the Texas Cult

By LIONEL TIGER
May 21, 2008

The desperate tragedy involving polygamous cultists in Texas has attracted a growing phalanx of lawyers, judges, law enforcers and assorted psychologists.

Those responsible for coping with this astonishing disaster would be well-advised to add a primatologist to the team. The fact is that, despite all the blather about faith and freedom of religion, the men operating the various compounds in question are behaving in virtually the same manner as countless dominant males in countless primate troops observed over the years.

The essence of the case is that the men who control the politics of the group (as well as the hapless women and children who live there) have used junk theology about heaven, hell, paradise and salvation to maintain their unquestioned access to all females of reproductive age (or younger).

That's the reproductive fantasy of any adult male primate.

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