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semi liberal girl
05-25-2008, 12:44 PM
Not only do US troops have to defeat terrorists in Iraq and around the world - they also have to defeat the terrorists biggest allies in the US

Democrats who are pushing for surrender and appeasement.


THE WASHINGTON TIMES EDITORIAL
May 25, 2008

While Congress delays passage of legislation funding operations in Iraq, the military strategy there continues to achieve remarkable successes. This is particularly true with regard to Iraqi security forces, which have clearly benefited from American training and assistance.

On May 20, Iraqi forces operating without U.S. troop support moved uncontested through Sadr City, a Shi'ite neighborhood of well over 2 million people. The New York Times called this a "dramatic turnaround" from two months of bitter fighting there that had flared up in March, after Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki sent forces into Basra to combat militias. In response to the Basra operation, militia members led by Muqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army overran Iraqi army checkpoints in Sadr City and used the densely populated neighborhood to fire rockets at the Green Zone, where the Iraqi government and American embassy are located. For now, those days are over: The Iraqi army controls Sadr City and the local press is filled with reports that some militia members have left Sadr City for Lebanon by way of Iran.

The Iraqi government has also made progress toward taming Basra — the southern port city that had been essentially captured by Mahdi militants, other local militias and street thugs. Two months ago, Mr. Maliki, acting independently of the U.S. military, sent troops into Basra to wrest control of the city from the militias, which routinely kidnapped, raped and extorted money from local residents. British military forces that had occupied the city since the invasion of Iraq in 2003 failed to restore order in the city and withdrew in September 2007. Living conditions deteriorated further — prompting Mr. Maliki to take military action in March to drive the militias out. Initially, the Iraqi military there was plagued by logistical problems and desertions. But over the past few months, more Iraqi troops have arrived in Basra. In addition, British military forces have returned to Basra, and the militias have melted away for now.

The recent events in Basra and Sadr City are just the latest indications that Iraqis continue to make progress in taking control of their country — progress that would have been impossible without the support provided by the United States. Unfortunately, Democrats (with some Republican help) have pushed ahead with a series of "poison pill" amendments that would virtually guarantee a White House veto and make it impossible for many Republican lawmakers to support the bill. These include the seriously flawed Webb-Warner GI bill, which would reduce military retention rates by 16 percent, according to the Congressional Budget Office. There were, however, some small pieces of good news. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid bowed to political reality and stripped an amendment that would have required the Department of Homeland Security to grant amnesty to 1.35 million illegal-alien farmworkers and their families. Although the Senate killed such objectionable provisions as a troop withdrawal timetable, House antiwar allies will almost certainly fight for such provisions when debate resumes next month.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20080525/EDITORIAL/388665074/1013



Congress vs. Iraqi success

Classact
05-25-2008, 02:41 PM
The congress is really strange about the way war funding is going. The House of Representatives is full up with Dems that are in the Out of Iraq caucus and many of the new Dems that came around in 2006 are Blue Dog, or conservative Democrats. Neither will vote for war funding, the OoI group will not vote yes for one penny toward war and the BD's will, but only if it is paid for.

Last week the Senate approved war funding at a larger sum than requested by president Bush. What is strange is that the house didn't approve the funding for the war, they only approved the funding for the GI Bill and the unemployment extension and pork, the only offer for war funding in the house was with timetables for withdraw and troop rotation times... It failed because over 150 Republicans voted present.

So, the Senate votes on the failed House war funding and also voted it down at a high percentage and then offered the money plus what Bush asked for and passed it by 77-22.

The combined package of the war funding, GI Bill and unemployment/pork are now at the House of Representatives... Please note that Bush already said he will veto it... House leadership, Nancy and company left town without putting it up for a vote... WHY because the Republicans will probably not vote for it even though it has pork in it for their states, that leaves the Democratic majority voting against the pork, GI Bill and war funding... That means no nada, no war funding, no GI Bill, no unemployment extensions/pork nada.

That leaves soldiers without pay, the Pentagon shutting down and a true House leadership problem, they have to vote yes or kill everything and they won't. Even if enough Republicans vote yes to send it to the president he will veto it and the Pentagon/troops are still out of money...

The president and House Republicans will ask a simple question, why not take the amendment that funds the troops and pass it separately since it passed 77-22 in the Senate? Of course the House don't want to do that because the pork and other goodies on the other two amendments will die an instant death and have to be recreated later on.

I think the House in in a "hard spot", between a rock and a hard place and will have to fund the war separately by the end of the first week of June. If they don't the American people will wear their asses out for leaving the troops high and dry!

semi liberal girl
05-25-2008, 03:08 PM
When it comes to the war, and most issues, Demcorats do not know if they should wind the ass, or scratch their watch

ranger
05-25-2008, 05:38 PM
When it comes to the war, dems are too busy looking for a way to score points with the leftist fringe that has control of their party to do what is right. And the republicans are too scared of what the press will say if they try to do something right. So, Bush ends up being the mean bastard because he vetoes the bill.

semi liberal girl
05-26-2008, 05:42 AM
When it comes to the war, dems are too busy looking for a way to score points with the leftist fringe that has control of their party to do what is right. And the republicans are too scared of what the press will say if they try to do something right. So, Bush ends up being the mean bastard because he vetoes the bill.

and the left is always saying how they want the troops home. Yea, so the left can put hem on trial

The left constantly attacks and smears the troops on everything they do and say. That way, libs can say they are always thinking about the men and women in the US military

ranger
05-26-2008, 11:14 AM
and the left is always saying how they want the troops home. Yea, so the left can put hem on trial

The left constantly attacks and smears the troops on everything they do and say. That way, libs can say they are always thinking about the men and women in the US military

Yep, but they really do love and support them.......I remember when I was in, guys would go the other way when Clinton came around looking for photo ops.