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gabosaurus
06-09-2008, 07:58 PM
There are a lot of them. The ones who actually pay attention and don't just sit around jerking off to right-wing hate speech.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

manu1959
06-09-2008, 09:07 PM
cool....how many vets voting for the african american.....

Noir
06-09-2008, 09:13 PM
cool....how many vets voting for the african american.....

I heard 6...though that may be an over estimate

..anyways obama won't care if they don't vote for him, if he takes a republican vote its a double win (-1 rep, +1 dem) but if McCain turns a voter away even if they vote third party or not at all, its still a dem boost, without them havin to do anything for it.

Sitarro
06-09-2008, 09:22 PM
There are a lot of them. The ones who actually pay attention and don't just sit around jerking off to right-wing hate speech.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

Yea, that site looks so very credible....... not. You have the nerve to criticize the Swift Boat guys.:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

Mr. P
06-09-2008, 09:27 PM
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Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain (VVAJM) provides external links for its readers as a convenience and for informational purposes only. The links do not constitute an endorsement or an approval by VVAJM. VVAJM bears no responsibility for the accuracy, legality or content of the external sites or for that of subsequent links.

In other words...this is just a mindless political smear campaign.

Silver
06-09-2008, 09:33 PM
There are a lot of them. The ones who actually pay attention and don't just sit around jerking off to right-wing hate speech.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

And of course these guys are nothing like the swift-boat vets...right GABBER??:finger3:

No_Socialism
06-09-2008, 09:46 PM
cool....how many vets voting for the african american.....

Well you do have these folks...

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http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/ (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)

gabosaurus
06-10-2008, 12:33 AM
cool....how many vets voting for the african american.....

Thanks for confirming my point that right-wing conservatives will vote for someone they previously despised, as opposed to voting for a black guy.

"Yes, we fought to make this country free, but only for white male Christians."

Sitarro
06-10-2008, 01:05 AM
Thanks for confirming my point that right-wing conservatives will vote for someone they previously despised, as opposed to voting for a black guy.

"Yes, we fought to make this country free, but only for white male Christians."

Physiologically, Obama is just as much a white man as a black man..... why do you insist on calling him black? How convenient for you racist on the left, you can pretend to be, oh so progressive by putting up the first black Presidential nominee when actually he is just another white guy with dark skin tones.

If he would have physically taken more of the cues from his mother, he wouldn't even be in the running and Hillary would be the nominee. He is an unqualified idiot liberal with heavy socialist leanings and an allegiance to Africa, who gives a shit what the tone of his mixed breed skin is. The left only sees a guy with dark skin they can use to garner votes from imbeciles that vote for looks alone, what a bunch of loser racists.

actsnoblemartin
06-10-2008, 01:10 AM
obama is NOT really a black guy.

he is a mixed race guy you idiot :laugh2:

he is half black, if he were full as black, i mean dat nigga was dark as night then that would a real break through :laugh2:

god i love you gabs, you preach the hate of the right, then act as hateful as stalin :laugh2:

actsnoblemartin
06-10-2008, 01:11 AM
:clap: :clap:


Physiologically, Obama is just as much a white man as a black man..... why do you insist on calling him black? How convenient for you racist on the left, you can pretend to be, oh so progressive by putting up the first black Presidential nominee when actually he is just another white guy with dark skin tones.

If he would have physically taken more of the cues from his mother, he wouldn't even be in the running and Hillary would be the nominee. He is an unqualified idiot liberal with heavy socialist leanings and an allegiance to Africa, who gives a shit what the tone of his mixed breed skin is. The left only sees a guy with dark skin they can use to garner votes from imbeciles that vote for looks alone, what a bunch of loser racists.

Sitarro
06-10-2008, 01:17 AM
Well you do have these folks...

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http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/ (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/)

Amazing the difference these two classy, mature, young heroes from our fine military asking good questions of an ignorant Senator that refuses to open his eyes to reality and the nut cases that are obviously pushing an agenda of hatred and bias....... I choose to listen to the brave young soldiers in this post.

crin63
06-10-2008, 01:59 AM
Thanks for confirming my point that right-wing conservatives will vote for someone they previously despised, as opposed to voting for a black guy.

"Yes, we fought to make this country free, but only for white male Christians."

Gabs you make a good case for one getting them self banned sometimes.

gabosaurus
06-10-2008, 11:07 AM
Gabs you make a good case for one getting them self banned sometimes.

And you don't? :laugh2:

hjmick
06-10-2008, 11:12 AM
And of course these guys are nothing like the swift-boat vets...right GABBER??:finger3:

Actually, I'm fairly certain that Jerry Kiley was one of many who spoke out against Kerry. I know Ted Sampley did.

namvet
06-10-2008, 04:59 PM
there's always a VVA something against somebody. in my war it was the VVAW. which Kerry joined.
winter soldiers (winter soldiers)


Two recently discovered documents captured from the Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War strongly support the contention that a close link existed between the Hanoi regime and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) while John Kerry served as the group's leading national spokesman.



im votin' for McCain. period

GW in Ohio
06-11-2008, 07:52 AM
There are a lot of them. The ones who actually pay attention and don't just sit around jerking off to right-wing hate speech.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

Gabo: Don't do this.

There are many reasons to oppose John McCain's candidacy. His service in 'Nam is not one of them.

I never saw any combat in Vietnam (unless you count a bar fight at a seedy establishment outside of Tan Son Nhut).

But I have the greatest respect for the guys who were in combat.

Oppose McCain because he's too damn old. Or because his views on foreign policy ought to be in a museum.

But don't bring up his service in Vietnam unless you're going to say good things about him. He still can't raise his arms above his shoulders because of what those bastards did to him in the Hanoi Hilton.

hjmick
06-11-2008, 09:39 AM
Gabo: Don't do this.

There are many reasons to oppose John McCain's candidacy. His service in 'Nam is not one of them.

I never saw any combat in Vietnam (unless you count a bar fight at a seedy establishment outside of Tan Son Nhut).

But I have the greatest respect for the guys who were in combat.

Oppose McCain because he's too damn old. Or because his views on foreign policy ought to be in a museum.

But don't bring up his service in Vietnam unless you're going to say good things about him. He still can't raise his arms above his shoulders because of what those bastards did to him in the Hanoi Hilton.

We may not agree on much, GW, hell, we may not agree on anything, but you have my utmost respect for this post.

Well done and well said. :clap:

Mr. P
06-11-2008, 05:11 PM
Gabo: Don't do this.

There are many reasons to oppose John McCain's candidacy. His service in 'Nam is not one of them.

I never saw any combat in Vietnam (unless you count a bar fight at a seedy establishment outside of Tan Son Nhut).

But I have the greatest respect for the guys who were in combat.

Oppose McCain because he's too damn old. Or because his views on foreign policy ought to be in a museum.

But don't bring up his service in Vietnam unless you're going to say good things about him. He still can't raise his arms above his shoulders because of what those bastards did to him in the Hanoi Hilton.


We may not agree on much, GW, hell, we may not agree on anything, but you have my utmost respect for this post.

Well done and well said. :clap:

Yep, what he said! Thanks for that GW! :salute:

Yurt
06-11-2008, 07:40 PM
Thanks for confirming my point that right-wing conservatives will vote for someone they previously despised, as opposed to voting for a black guy.

"Yes, we fought to make this country free, but only for white male Christians."

yeah, it has nothing do with him being a dumbocrat....silly little girl

namvet
06-13-2008, 12:14 PM
just a note here on that website.


Politicizing the Congressional Medal of Honor
Col. Bud Day, his Medal of Honor and the McCain campaign's abuse of our nation's highest award for valor.

well now I check his website. lookie what i found:

Now began Bud Day’s greatest epic, five and a half years of torture and resistance, refusing to cooperate with his captors. Now Bud Day’s ability to bear adversity came to the fore. During part of this time he shared a cell with John McCain, and is able to answer authoritatively one of our current controversies. This book, and Bud Day’s word vouch that John McCain did not collaborate with the enemy as some have subsequently charged. And that may be taken in the context that Bud Day did attempt to prosecute certain other POWs whom he did believe to have betrayed their oaths, and that he vigorously disagrees with many of John McCain’s political positions. The story of Bud Day’s captivity is the largest part of the book, and is highly relevant to contemporary controversies.




This book, and Bud Day’s word vouch that John McCain did not collaborate with the enemy as some have subsequently charged.
source (source)

the website she posted is a total fake.