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hjmick
06-18-2008, 12:06 PM
Or so says an advance staffer working for the Obama campaign. It seems to me that one of two things is going on here. Either someone high up in Obama's staff issued the direction to omit any overtly Muslim Americans from the background at these events, or some low level local flunkies think they know what is best for their candidate. Which ever is the case, I think the candidate of "hope" and "change" might need to do some house cleaning. And no, the photo op with the college student wearing the hijab doesn't make up for the incidents in question.


Muslims barred from picture at Obama event
By BEN SMITH | 6/18/08 11:08 AM EST Updated: 6/18/08 12:48 PM EST

Two Muslim women at Barack Obama's rally in Detroit on Monday were barred from sitting behind the podium by campaign volunteers seeking to prevent the women's headscarves from appearing in photographs or on television with the candidate.

The campaign has apologized to the women, both Obama supporters who said they felt betrayed by their treatment at the rally...

Building a human backdrop to a political candidate, a set of faces to appear on television and in photographs, is always a delicate exercise in demographics and political correctness. Advance staffers typically pick supporters out of a crowd to reflect the candidate's message...

But for Obama, the old-fashioned image-making contrasts with his promise to transcend identity politics and to embrace all elements of America. The incidents in Michigan, which has one of the largest Arab and Muslim populations in the country, also raise an aspect of his campaign that sometimes rubs Muslims the wrong way: The candidate has vigorously denied a false, viral rumor that he himself is Muslim. But the denials seem to some at times to imply that there is something wrong with the faith, though Obama occasionally adds that he means no disrespect to Islam...

In Detroit on Monday, the two different Obama volunteers — in separate incidents — made it clear that headscarves wouldn't be in the picture. The volunteers gave different explanations for excluding the hijabs, one bluntly political and the other less clear.

In Aref's case, there was no ambiguity...

The men said the volunteer, a twenty-something African-American woman in a green shirt, asked if their friends looked and were dressed like the young men, who were all light-skinned and wearing suits. Miller said yes, but mentioned that one of their friends was wearing a headscarf with her suit.

The volunteer "explained to me that because of the political climate and what's going on in the world and what's going on with Muslim Americans, it's not good for [Aref] to be seen on TV or associated with Obama," said Koussan, who is a law student at Wayne State University.

Both Koussan and Miller said they specifically recalled the volunteer citing the "political climate" in telling them they couldn't sit behind Obama...

Shimaa Abdelfadeel's story was different. She'd waited on line outside the Joe Louis Arena for three hours in the sun and was walking through the giant hall when a volunteer approached two of her non-Muslim friends, a few steps ahead of her, and asked if they'd like to sit in "special seating" behind the stage...

When they said they were with Abdelfadeel, the volunteer told them their friend would have to take the headscarf off or stay out of the special section, Marino said. They declined the seats.

After recovering from the shock of the incident, Abdelfadeel went to look for the volunteer and confronted her minutes later, she said in an e-mail interview with Politico.

"We're not letting anyone with anything on their heads like baseball [caps] or scarves sit behind the stage," she paraphrased the volunteer as saying, an account Marino confirmed. "It has nothing to do with your religion!"

In most work and school settings, religious dress — such as Jewish yarmulkes, Sikh turbans, Muslim hijabs — is permitted where secular clothing like baseball caps is not...

Photographs of the event also show men with hats in the section behind Obama and former Vice President Al Gore, though not directly behind the candidate...

She was "let-down that the Obama campaign continously perpetuates this attitude towards Muslims and Arabs — as if being merely associated [with] one is a sin..."

"He was the one candidate who you would expect to stand up for something like that — and behind the scenes you have something completely contrary to what he was running on," said Koussan, Aref's other friend...

An Obama aide also noted that the campaign has no policy against the candidate's appearing with women in headscarves: The next morning at Wayne State University, Obama posed for a picture with a student wearing a hijab...

Aref said she was glad Obama had apologized, but she was not entirely satisfied.

"I think this is a much bigger deal than maybe they're perceiving it as," she said, noting that Obama had placed a personal call to a television reporter he'd dismissively called "Sweetie."

"An apology from him personally would be better," she said, then reconsidered. "If they are true to their word, I think it would suffice to have an invitation to their next rally and have seats behind him and show up on TV."

Complete story... (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11168_Page2.html)

red states rule
06-18-2008, 12:31 PM
If it's not the policy of the campaign, and offensive to Obama's committment. Why then, did it happen in the first place?

namvet
06-18-2008, 02:55 PM
If it's not the policy of the campaign, and offensive to Obama's committment. Why then, did it happen in the first place?

he's afraid they may have AK-47's under the burqa's

red states rule
06-18-2008, 02:58 PM
he's afraid they may have AK-47's under the burqa's

or a bomb vest

namvet
06-18-2008, 03:03 PM
or a bomb vest

if she looks pregnant run like hell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

red states rule
06-18-2008, 03:06 PM
if she looks pregnant run like hell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where does he find these people that surround him? Is there an idiot list out there?

Another example of Obama's judgement

namvet
06-18-2008, 03:13 PM
Where does he find these people that surround him? Is there an idiot list out there?

Another example of Obama's judgement

my guess would be his staffers hire em.

red states rule
06-18-2008, 03:16 PM
my guess would be his staffers hire em.

and who hired the staffers?

Reminds me of who hired Craig Liverstone in the Clinton White House

Kathianne
06-18-2008, 03:22 PM
I don't blame Obama staffers, anymore than I'd blame McCain staffers for nixing some 50 something missing their front teeth. When it comes to politics, image counts, from both sides.

red states rule
06-18-2008, 03:24 PM
Ah the politics of change

Ain't it great? :laugh2:

namvet
06-18-2008, 03:26 PM
I don't blame Obama staffers, anymore than I'd blame McCain staffers for nixing some 50 something missing their front teeth. When it comes to politics, image counts, from both sides.

im still waiting on Osama's image - when will it arrive???

Abbey Marie
06-18-2008, 04:02 PM
:laugh2: Here's an image he can't remove.

Malik (Obama's brother) holds a photo of Obama and him in Muslim dress, reportedly when the two first met in 1985

http://web.israelinsider.com/Static/Binaries/Article/obamamalikholdaphotoofhisbro424_0.jpg

red states rule
06-18-2008, 04:05 PM
:laugh2: Here's an image he can't remove.

Malik (Obama's brother) holds a photo of Obama and him in Muslim dress, reportedly when the two first met in 1985

http://web.israelinsider.com/Static/Binaries/Article/obamamalikholdaphotoofhisbro424_0.jpg

Is Obama banning people from events because he does not want to be associated with his true religion?

avatar4321
06-18-2008, 08:00 PM
I heard this earlier and the thought came that if you try to be everything for everyone, you end up becoming nothing for everyone.

mundame
06-20-2008, 08:28 AM
Obama apologizes to Muslim women barred from seats
Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:36pm EDT
CHICAGO (Reuters) - U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama apologized on Thursday to two Muslim women who were barred from sitting behind the podium where Obama was speaking because they were wearing Islamic headscarves.
At a campaign rally in Detroit on Monday, Shimaa Abdelfadeel and Hebba Aref were prevented by volunteers from taking seats behind Obama that would have been in view of television cameras, apparently because of their headscarves.
"I reached out to Ms. Aref and Ms. Abdelfadeel this afternoon," Obama said in a statement. "I spoke with Ms. Abdelfadeel, and expressed my deepest apologies for the incident that occurred with volunteers at the event in Detroit."
Obama said the volunteers' actions were "unacceptable and in no way reflect any policy of my campaign."
"I take deepest offense to and will continue to fight against discrimination against people of any religious group or background," he said.
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This is pretty funny.

If the Repubs have any sense they will positively BUS obvious Moslems of both sexes to Obama's rallies from now on and get them to insist on seating directly behind his podium.


In my opinion, his staffer that got them out of there had a lot more sense than all the apologies later! And that person who suggested "special seating" for them must be nuts.

namvet
06-20-2008, 08:52 AM
Obama apologizes to Muslim women barred from seats
Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:36pm EDT
CHICAGO (Reuters) - U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama apologized on Thursday to two Muslim women who were barred from sitting behind the podium where Obama was speaking because they were wearing Islamic headscarves.
At a campaign rally in Detroit on Monday, Shimaa Abdelfadeel and Hebba Aref were prevented by volunteers from taking seats behind Obama that would have been in view of television cameras, apparently because of their headscarves.
"I reached out to Ms. Aref and Ms. Abdelfadeel this afternoon," Obama said in a statement. "I spoke with Ms. Abdelfadeel, and expressed my deepest apologies for the incident that occurred with volunteers at the event in Detroit."
Obama said the volunteers' actions were "unacceptable and in no way reflect any policy of my campaign."
"I take deepest offense to and will continue to fight against discrimination against people of any religious group or background," he said.
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This is pretty funny.

If the Repubs have any sense they will positively BUS obvious Moslems of both sexes to Obama's rallies from now on and get them to insist on seating directly behind his podium.


In my opinion, his staffer that got them out of there had a lot more sense than all the apologies later! And that person who suggested "special seating" for them must be nuts.

don't forget a link

muslims demand an apology even though they won't accept it. sniff sniff.........what's burning?????