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namvet
06-21-2008, 09:09 AM
right here in the USA. this is conclusive proof that the DNC is no longer a viable party. listen what this down town clown says. this is his NATIONAL SECURITY POLICY.


WASHINGTON (Map, News) - Barack Obama's foreign policy advisers said Tuesday that Osama bin Laden, if captured, should be allowed to appeal his case to U.S. civilian courts, a privilege opposed by John McCain.

Responding to questions from The Examiner, Sen. John Kerry and former White House counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke said bin Laden would benefit from last week's Supreme Court decision giving terrorism suspects habeas corpus, the right to appeal their military detention to civilian courts.



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approved by Osama, the democrats are now the biggest threat to our national security. far and above, much more dangerous than any terrorists organization !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

diuretic
06-21-2008, 09:12 AM
If bin Laden was captured he and his gang would be extradited to the US to face criminal charges. Wasn't that always the plan?

namvet
06-21-2008, 09:19 AM
If bin Laden was captured he and his gang would be extradited to the US to face criminal charges. Wasn't that always the plan?

would you bring him here???? think !!!!

5stringJeff
06-21-2008, 09:23 AM
If OBL was captured, I'm sure there would be thousands of willing executioners.

namvet
06-21-2008, 09:25 AM
If OBL was captured, I'm sure there would be thousands of willing executioners.

but bringing him to this country will also bring in every terrorists in the world and the attacks here will run 24/7

gabosaurus
06-21-2008, 10:10 AM
but bringing him to this country will also bring in every terrorists in the world and the attacks here will run 24/7

:laugh2: :laugh2:
Thanks, I needed the morning laugh.

Hagbard Celine
06-21-2008, 10:15 AM
but bringing him to this country will also bring in every terrorists in the world and the attacks here will run 24/7

What on Earth leads you to that conclusion? :laugh:

And why is it surprising to you that someone says he should have a fair trial? That's one of the things America stands for man. We have to put him through a trial before we execute him. It's the principle of the thing!

namvet
06-21-2008, 10:21 AM
look up the word martyr. then with our borders wide open. well you figue it out......

namvet
06-21-2008, 10:26 AM
bin Laden would benefit from last week's Supreme Court decision giving terrorism suspects habeas corpus, the right to appeal their military detention to civilian courts.


which means with the help of a liberal pro terrorists judge and the ACLU nazi's he gets off scott free. under Osama's policy.

gabosaurus
06-21-2008, 10:31 AM
The U.S. is the land of justice and fair trial. The evidence would convict bin Laden.

At least Obama wants to bring bin Laden to trial. Bush never wanted him captured.

namvet
06-21-2008, 10:39 AM
gabosaurus you on my ignore list. which means your opinion don't mean shit to me. or anyone on this board. your pure moot

retiredman
06-21-2008, 11:44 AM
look up the word martyr. then with our borders wide open. well you figue it out......


do you think that if we tried, convicted and executed him somewhere else other than the USA that he would become less of a martyr? Would our borders somehow become less wide open?

red states rule
06-21-2008, 12:10 PM
which means with the help of a liberal pro terrorists judge and the ACLU nazi's he gets off scott free. under Osama's policy.

Under Obama's rule OBL will get his ACLU lawyer, the troops will be attacked for not reading him huis rights, the US will be made the defendent in the trial, and OBL will be given the right to sue the US for his illegal capture and detention

Libs will blame Pres Bush for everything and offer to drop the charges against OBL, and settle out of court with a generous settlement and written apology from Obama

namvet
06-21-2008, 12:13 PM
Under Obama's rule OBL will get his ACLU lawyer, the troops will be attacked for not reading him huis rights, the US will be made the defendent in the trial, and OBL will be given the right to sue the US for his illegal capture and detention

Libs will blame Pres Bush for everything and offer to drop the charges against OBL, and settle out of court with a generous settlement and written apology from Obama

where they gonna hold the trial??? NYC. Gitmo. I would prefer the white house !!!!!!!!!

red states rule
06-21-2008, 12:16 PM
where they gonna hold the trial??? NYC. Gitmo. I would prefer the white house !!!!!!!!!

Which trial are you talking about?

OBL VS the US or the US VS OBL?

namvet
06-21-2008, 12:21 PM
Which trial are you talking about?

OBL VS the US or the US VS OBL?

OBL VS OBAMA

red states rule
06-21-2008, 12:23 PM
OBL VS OBAMA

Knowing Obama, it would go to the World Court

After hearings in the Dem Congress, and a hearing before the UN Security Council

namvet
06-21-2008, 12:25 PM
Knowing Obama, it would go to the World Court

After hearings in the Dem Congress, and a hearing before the UN Security Council

yep. when he sees the terrorists coming he'll move BL out of the country.

red states rule
06-21-2008, 12:27 PM
yep. when he sees the terrorists coming he'll move BL out of the country.

What terrorists? According to libs like Obama there are no terrorists in the world, except Pres Bush

retiredman
06-21-2008, 12:28 PM
Under Obama's rule OBL will get his ACLU lawyer, the troops will be attacked for not reading him huis rights, the US will be made the defendent in the trial, and OBL will be given the right to sue the US for his illegal capture and detention

Libs will blame Pres Bush for everything and offer to drop the charges against OBL, and settle out of court with a generous settlement and written apology from Obama

these sorts of responses should land this thread in the humor forum... lame humor at that.

If we are fortunate enough to capture OBL alive, I would love to see him face the bar of justice in the USA. I think we should convict him and imprison him in solitary for the rest of his days and bury him in an unmarked grave wrapped in a pig skin when he dies. No execution, no martyrdom.

namvet
06-21-2008, 12:30 PM
What terrorists? According to libs like Obama there are no terrorists in the world, except Pres Bush

shit. i hope he dosen't look under his bed..............:laugh2:

red states rule
06-21-2008, 12:41 PM
shit. i hope he dosen't look under his bed..............:laugh2:

Why do you think terrorists are backing Obama and the Dems? They know Dems will roll over and stick theiur heads in the sand

Sitarro
06-21-2008, 01:00 PM
I say gut shoot him with a tracer bullet and instruct him to fly when you throw his stinky ass out of a helicopter at 5,000 feet. The story would read...... Scared Obama......errrr Osama, tried to kill himself when he knew he was about to get captured. U.S. doctors tried to save him but he jumped from a helicopter shouting something about 72 virgin goats.:salute:

namvet
06-21-2008, 01:00 PM
Why do you think terrorists are backing Obama and the Dems? They know Dems will roll over and stick theiur heads in the sand

don't you know??? liberals always bring a knife to a gunfight................

red states rule
06-21-2008, 01:05 PM
don't you know??? liberals always bring a knife to a gunfight................

But when taking on a political opponent - Obama screamed he would bring a gun

Libs like Obama see a bigger threat from their fellow countrymen then from terrorists that want all of us dead

namvet
06-21-2008, 01:22 PM
But when taking on a political opponent - Obama screamed he would bring a gun

Libs like Obama see a bigger threat from their fellow countrymen then from terrorists that want all of us dead

Osama with a gun in his hand???? oh i can't wait............911 and step on it !!!!!

red states rule
06-21-2008, 01:25 PM
Osama with a gun in his hand???? oh i can't wait............911 and step on it !!!!!

If John McCain would have made the gun comment, Obaba ass kissers like MFM would ahve jumped all over him

But since it came from the left Golden Boy they are silent. He can do and say nothing wrong

Case in point - when everyone concerned where all of the candidates are born; it was determined McCain was born on a military base in Panama. Hillary was born outside Chicago, and if you believe the media and Obama follwers, Barack Obama was born in a manger

retiredman
06-21-2008, 01:38 PM
If John McCain would have made the gun comment, Obaba ass kissers like MFM would ahve jumped all over him

But since it came from the left Golden Boy they are silent. He can do and say nothing wrong

Case in point - when everyone concerned where all of the candidates are born; it was determined McCain was born on a military base in Panama. Hillary was born outside Chicago, and if you believe the media and Obama follwers, Barack Obama was born in a manger

http://www.newsweek.com/id/142465/page/1

namvet
06-21-2008, 01:47 PM
if he's elected i hope our entire military is the one to cut and run. in reality you can look for a serious reduction in enlistments. and active and reserve members will be looking for the door. and they have that choice. I was forced to serve for a dummycrat named LBJ. today i would gladly help lead out vets away from this chimp. :salute:

retiredman
06-21-2008, 02:41 PM
if he's elected i hope our entire military is the one to cut and run. in reality you can look for a serious reduction in enlistments. and active and reserve members will be looking for the door. and they have that choice. I was forced to serve for a dummycrat named LBJ. today i would gladly help lead out vets away from this chimp. :salute:

you would willingly try to reduce our military's preparedness for partisan political purposes?

what a patriot you are.

Sitarro
06-21-2008, 02:51 PM
you would willingly try to reduce our military's preparedness for partisan political purposes?

what a patriot you are.

He won't be my President and I would back anyone wanting to quit the military under his command. If that dick head is elected by the idiots of this country, our military preparedness will immediately be reduced. He is an incompetent puppet of George Soros who is determined to destroy our country before he dies, only a fool can't see that.

retiredman
06-21-2008, 02:57 PM
He won't be my President and I would back anyone wanting to quit the military under his command. If that dick head is elected by the idiots of this country, our military preparedness will immediately be reduced. He is an incompetent puppet of George Soros who is determined to destroy our country before he dies, only a fool can't see that.

so you ARE advocating reducing our military preparedness for partisan political purposes?

again... how patriotic of you.:salute:

manu1959
06-21-2008, 03:05 PM
he should be given a fair trail and then shot....

5stringJeff
06-21-2008, 03:15 PM
if he's elected i hope our entire military is the one to cut and run.


He won't be my President and I would back anyone wanting to quit the military under his command.

I think Obama's a socialist as well, but WTF? You sound like all the celebrities that said they would "flee the country" if Bush got elected. Do you really, actually want the military to stop functioning if the Democrats get elected?

glockmail
06-21-2008, 03:35 PM
This and the gas price thing are going to great fodder for the Presidential campaign. :lol:

namvet
06-21-2008, 04:13 PM
I think Obama's a socialist as well, but WTF? You sound like all the celebrities that said they would "flee the country" if Bush got elected. Do you really, actually want the military to stop functioning if the Democrats get elected?

yes I do want them to cut and run. as fast as they can. no military support for Osama or the nation means he's gone. AND FAST !!!!! it would force him to use the draft. and they'll all leave the country to. dems hate the military and here's their chance to walk out.

Sitarro
06-21-2008, 04:18 PM
I think Obama's a socialist as well, but WTF? You sound like all the celebrities that said they would "flee the country" if Bush got elected. Do you really, actually want the military to stop functioning if the Democrats get elected?

I'm not advocating the military stop functioning, just stating what I would guess will happen when you elect a guy who makes Bill Clinton look like a hawk....... do you remember how Bill decimated military preparedness? The base closings, etc.?

namvet
06-21-2008, 04:39 PM
im trying to find out what he thinks about the military. so far no comments. does he even know we have one??? and how it functions????

gabosaurus
06-21-2008, 05:53 PM
If we don't have an immediate need for the military, we can stop overspending on it.
Electing McCain will mean just the opposite, since he will continue (and escalate) unnecessary military activity.

manu1959
06-21-2008, 07:39 PM
If we don't have an immediate need for the military, we can stop overspending on it.
Electing McCain will mean just the opposite, since he will continue (and escalate) unnecessary military activity.

what military activity would you consider necessary.....

glockmail
06-21-2008, 07:40 PM
If we don't have an immediate need for the military, we can stop overspending on it.
Electing McCain will mean just the opposite, since he will continue (and escalate) unnecessary military activity.
How can you overspend on being prepared? Don't you realize that we are much less likely to be attacked if we are strong, and beating up on the bad guys where they live?

Hagbard Celine
06-21-2008, 07:42 PM
The U.S. is the land of justice and fair trial. The evidence would convict bin Laden.

At least Obama wants to bring bin Laden to trial. Bush never wanted him captured.

You're not on my "ignore list" gabs. Tried to rep you for this but I gotta spread da peanut butta around first!

Hagbard Celine
06-21-2008, 07:43 PM
Under Obama's rule OBL will get his ACLU lawyer, the troops will be attacked for not reading him huis rights, the US will be made the defendent in the trial, and OBL will be given the right to sue the US for his illegal capture and detention

Libs will blame Pres Bush for everything and offer to drop the charges against OBL, and settle out of court with a generous settlement and written apology from Obama

You're demented man :laugh:

glockmail
06-21-2008, 07:49 PM
You're not on my "ignore list" gabs. Tried to rep you for this but I gotta spread da peanut butta around first! I hear she likes facials.

Hagbard Celine
06-21-2008, 07:53 PM
I hear she likes facials.

Really? Well I don't see why she wouldn't. A good exfoliation followed by a seaweed wrap and a steam bath is always highly refreshing. :dance:

glockmail
06-21-2008, 08:01 PM
Really? Well I don't see why she wouldn't. A good exfoliation followed by a seaweed wrap and a steam bath is always highly refreshing. :dance: Not enough protein in that seaweed, is there? Prolly salty enough for her though.

gabosaurus
06-22-2008, 12:30 AM
You're not on my "ignore list" gabs. Tried to rep you for this but I gotta spread da peanut butta around first!

Spread some out to Glock. Those old clams are a bitch to open sometimes.

diuretic
06-22-2008, 03:39 AM
would you bring him here???? think !!!!

Well he would fall under US jurisdiction for conspiring to commit offences committed in the US.

glockmail
06-22-2008, 09:21 AM
Spread some out to Glock. Those old clams are a bitch to open sometimes. From what you've been telling us your old clams open at the sound of loose change rattling.

namvet
06-22-2008, 09:24 AM
From what you've been telling us your old clams open at the sound of loose change rattling.

bargin with her. you'll get a blow job for a nickel :lol:

glockmail
06-22-2008, 09:41 AM
bargin with her. you'll get a blow job for a nickel :lol:
Wouldn't interest me in the least.:pee:

namvet
06-22-2008, 09:47 AM
Well he would fall under US jurisdiction for conspiring to commit offences committed in the US.

that what scares me. he stands a good chance of getting off scott free or life in prison. which means either way he's a burden on the taxpayer. no thanks !!! I want him tried outside the country in front of the kangaroo court that hung Hussein. problem solved.

DragonStryk72
06-22-2008, 09:53 AM
right here in the USA. this is conclusive proof that the DNC is no longer a viable party. listen what this down town clown says. this is his NATIONAL SECURITY POLICY.



source (source)

approved by Osama, the democrats are now the biggest threat to our national security. far and above, much more dangerous than any terrorists organization !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, honestly, I doubt we're going to get him alive, I mean, come on, how bad would the impulse be to "slip" during the capture? Beyond that, it won't matter what court tries him, and let's remember, if we try him in Texas, and there are at least 3 credible eyewitnesses (anyone seen one of the tapes?), he can get an express lane execution.

DragonStryk72
06-22-2008, 09:57 AM
Actually, thinking about it another second, we need to keep in prison alive. I'm not kidding: If we execute him, to his people, he would be a martyr, whether we execute him or he commits suicide, he would come away looking like a martyr. No, death is too good for him, we need to keep him in prison, and stop referring to him, just let him sit there and think about it as his life slips away. No brave last words, no more hate to spew, just lock him in a box the rest of his life.

namvet
06-22-2008, 10:14 AM
Actually, thinking about it another second, we need to keep in prison alive. I'm not kidding: If we execute him, to his people, he would be a http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=15355&goto=newpost

, whether we execute him or he commits suicide, he would come away looking like a martyr. No, death is too good for him, we need to keep him in prison, and stop referring to him, just let him sit there and think about it as his life slips away. No brave last words, no more hate to spew, just lock him in a box the rest of his life.

there are both dead and alive martyr's. ill take him dead anyday.

My Winter Storm
06-23-2008, 12:22 AM
Everyone deserves a fair trial, no matter what they are accused of.

red states rule
06-23-2008, 05:16 AM
Everyone deserves a fair trial, no matter what they are accused of.

Take OBL before a military tribunal, then hang him

You have your fair trial Sharon

namvet
06-23-2008, 08:08 AM
Everyone deserves a fair trial, no matter what they are accused of.

I doubt if the surviving families of the 9-11 attack agree.

red states rule
06-23-2008, 08:09 AM
I doubt if the surviving families of the 9-11 attack agree.

If OBL goes on trial in the US, it will quickly become the trial of Pres Bush and the US with the liberal media leading the charge

namvet
06-23-2008, 08:29 AM
If OBL goes on trial in the US, it will quickly become the trial of Pres Bush and the US with the liberal media leading the charge

it might also come with a few dirty bombs

red states rule
06-23-2008, 08:31 AM
it might also come with a few dirty bombs

and once again, the liberal media and Dedms will blame Pres Bush - not their appeasement and obstruction policies

retiredman
06-23-2008, 03:00 PM
it might also come with a few dirty bombs

and you don't think that the chances of that happening in America are identical if we tried him overseas somewhere?

red states rule
06-23-2008, 03:51 PM
With a public trial of OBL, the liberal media will paint him as the victim, put the Bush administration on trial, and Hollywood celebs will be demanding his release

ACLU lawyers will whine how OBL rights were violated, and cry how he can't get a fair trial

The answer is a military tribunal where all this crap will not have to be put up with

retiredman
06-23-2008, 04:08 PM
With a public trial of OBL, the liberal media will paint him as the victim, put the Bush administration on trial, and Hollywood celebs will be demanding his release

ACLU lawyers will whine how OBL rights were violated, and cry how he can't get a fair trial

The answer is a military tribunal where all this crap will not have to be put up with

that is flatulent rhetoric without basis. Americans are united in our disdain for OBL.

The question is: why do any of you think that it will be any LESS dangerous for America if we try, convict and execute him somewhere else? Do you really think that AQ can't find their way back here to terrorize us again?

red states rule
06-23-2008, 04:27 PM
that is flatulent rhetoric without basis. Americans are united in our disdain for OBL.

The question is: why do any of you think that it will be any LESS dangerous for America if we try, convict and execute him somewhere else? Do you really think that AQ can't find their way back here to terrorize us again?

Liberals like you hate Pres Bush, and the US military more then you hate OBL. The left will rally to OBL's defense, and try to put the US and Pres Bush on trial

For the last 5 years, the left have done everything possible to undermine the President and the military as they fight this war on terror - why would you guys change during the trial of OBL?

retiredman
06-23-2008, 04:46 PM
Liberals like you hate Pres Bush, and the US military more then you hate OBL. The left will rally to OBL's defense, and try to put the US and Pres Bush on trial

For the last 5 years, the left have done everything possible to undermine the President and the military as they fight this war on terror - why would you guys change during the trial of OBL?

I LOVE the US military. I served it with honor for a quarter of a century.

No one will rally to OBL's defense. Why do you avoid answering my question?

Kathianne
06-23-2008, 04:49 PM
that is flatulent rhetoric without basis. Americans are united in our disdain for OBL.

The question is: why do any of you think that it will be any LESS dangerous for America if we try, convict and execute him somewhere else? Do you really think that AQ can't find their way back here to terrorize us again?

Actually that is not quite true. There are many on the left that believe that OBL was justified. There are many more that think 'our response' now justifies all that will happen in the future. It's all 'our' fault. Get around the blogs and messageboards, it's really quite sad.

retiredman
06-23-2008, 04:51 PM
Actually that is not quite true. There are many on the left that believe that OBL was justified. There are many more that think 'our response' now justifies all that will happen in the future. It's all 'our' fault. Get around the blogs and messageboards, it's really quite sad.

to think that the voices on blogs and message board represent "many on the left" would lead me to suggest that you get AWAY from the blogs and message boards and talk to real people once in a while.

red states rule
06-23-2008, 04:53 PM
Actually that is not quite true. There are many on the left that believe that OBL was justified. There are many more that think 'our response' now justifies all that will happen in the future. It's all 'our' fault. Get around the blogs and messageboards, it's really quite sad.

and they are the ones who are bankrolling Obama on the internet.

Kathianne
06-23-2008, 04:54 PM
to think that the voices on blogs and message board represent "many on the left" would lead me to suggest that you get AWAY from the blogs and message boards and talk to real people once in a while.
On the contrary, they are the leaders, as are those on the right through the same venues. But then again, you know that, which is why you are here.

retiredman
06-23-2008, 04:54 PM
and they are the ones who are bankrolling Obama on the internet.


:link:

namvet
06-23-2008, 05:01 PM
Actually that is not quite true. There are many on the left that believe that OBL was justified. There are many more that think 'our response' now justifies all that will happen in the future. It's all 'our' fault. Get around the blogs and messageboards, it's really quite sad.

ward churchill said all those that died on 9-11 were Nazi's anyway. he called them "little Eichmanns." wonder what happened to that retard????? did the libs throw him under the bus to????

red states rule
06-23-2008, 05:03 PM
ward churchill said all those that died on 9-11 were Nazi's anyway. he called them "little Eichmanns." wonder what happened to that retard????? did the libs throw him under the bus to????

Of course not, they jumped to his defense. As they do with anyone who attacks Amercia, the US military, and Pres Bush

retiredman
06-23-2008, 05:21 PM
ward churchill said all those that died on 9-11 were Nazi's anyway. he called them "little Eichmanns." wonder what happened to that retard????? did the libs throw him under the bus to????

he was a wack job. Do I need to go dig up equally ridiculous statements by right wing wack jobs, or will you try to talk about mainstream thought.

retiredman
06-23-2008, 05:22 PM
Of course not, they jumped to his defense. As they do with anyone who attacks Amercia, the US military, and Pres Bush


respond to #71 please


or retract it as flatulent rhetoric

red states rule
06-23-2008, 05:24 PM
respond to #71 please


or retract it as flatulent rhetoric

Obama is gloating how he is raising huge amounts of cash on the internet

Funny how people have the money, as Dems cry how rotten the economy is

namvet
06-23-2008, 05:53 PM
hey dip shit from maine. your on ignore. go peddle your tripe eleswhere !!!!

red states rule
06-23-2008, 05:55 PM
hey dip shit from maine. your on ignore. go peddle your tripe eleswhere !!!!


I hope he takes your advice and does not let the door hit him in the ass on the way out

glockmail
06-23-2008, 06:01 PM
hey dip shit from maine. your on ignore. go peddle your tripe eleswhere !!!!
:lol:

glockmail
06-23-2008, 06:03 PM
Obama is gloating how he is raising huge amounts of cash on the internet

Funny how people have the money, as Dems cry how rotten the economy is Ask MFM to say "pretty please" :lol:

red states rule
06-23-2008, 06:52 PM
Obama should probably ask Osama if he wants to be VP.

The Obama Osama ticket will work and unite the Dem party

retiredman
06-23-2008, 08:06 PM
Obama should probably ask Osama if he wants to be VP.

The Obama Osama ticket will work and unite the Dem party

How about Obama-Richardson?

and tell me again.... who will YOU be voting for for President?:lol:

red states rule
06-24-2008, 07:17 AM
There will always be idiots ready to defend our enemies


Al-Qaeda’s Law Firm
By Matthew Vadum | June 23, 2008 - 20:45 ET

Much has already been written of the U.S. Supreme Court's lawless, nonsensical decision in Boumediene v. Bush that gives America's terrorist enemies unprecedented access to our civilian court system, but little has been written about the aggressively anti-American public interest law firm that helped to make it happen.*

The nonprofit Center for Constitutional Rights, which acted as co-counsel in the case, is deeply enmeshed in the politics of terrorism (take one guess on whose side) and has even taken money from groups linked to terrorism. CCR donors include the Ohio branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), Safa Trust Inc., and the International Institute of Islamic Thought, all of which have been accused of connections to Islamist terror groups.

CCR is now jumping for joy, absurdly hailing the June 12 decision as a great triumph for the Constitution.

And yet the media doesn’t care to investigate CCR and its terrorist money trail, treating the fifth column law firm as a legitimate player in constitutional jurisprudence.

Media outlets’ descriptions of CCR are innocuous. Following the Boumediene decision, media described the Center as: “a public interest law firm that represented 37 detainees before the Supreme Court”(Baltimore Sun, no link); the firm that “has represented Guantanamo Bay detainees since 2002” (Washington Post); the firm that has “filed the first lawsuits challenging the detentions” (Houston Chronicle); and, as a firm that "supports habeas corpus cases" (Philadelphia Daily News).

The Center, founded by radical attorney William Kunstler in 1966, has spent more than four decades trying to obstruct U.S. foreign policy and is anything but innocuous.

The Center scored a major legal victory in 2004 when the Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in Rasul v. Bush that its clients, 16 foreign nationals captured during U.S. hostilities with the Taliban in Afghanistan, had the legal right to challenge their detentions in U.S. civilian courts.

CCR is now using the courts to pick the deep pockets of corporations in order to undermine national security and advance its foreign policy agenda. In one transparently vexatious lawsuit, the Center sued heavy-machinery maker Caterpillar, Inc., after an American protester was run over by an Israeli military Caterpillar D9 bulldozer on a mission in the “no man’s land” near the Egyptian border in 2003. CCR has also sued private contractors CACI International Inc. and Titan International for their alleged connection to prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib prison.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-vadum/2008/06/23/al-qaeda-s-law-firm