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midcan5
06-23-2008, 07:05 AM
Whatever you think of Rep. Dennis Kucinich’s articles of impeachment the very fact so little was broadcast on national TV and radio proves again what a wishy washy weak fourth estate our press has become.

"Although this is the most important motion made in Congress in the 21st century, it was also the most significant plea for a restoration of the republic, which had been swept to one side by the mad antics of a president bent on great crime. And as I listened with awe to Kucinich, I realized that no newspaper in the U.S., no broadcast or cable network, would pay much notice to the fact that a highly respected member of Congress was asking for the president and vice president to be tried for crimes which were carefully listed by Kucinich in his articles requesting impeachment."

Gore Vidal’s Article of Impeachment by Gore Vidal

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080612_taking_back_the_republic/

avatar4321
06-23-2008, 12:44 PM
he's been doing this for years. what makes this different? or anymore legitimate?

hjmick
06-23-2008, 12:46 PM
It is only proof that another attempt to bring articles of impeachment is about as relevant as...um...Kucinich.

Nukeman
06-23-2008, 12:58 PM
Are you going to post this on as many sites as you can just to see if you can catch a bite or something??

I think if you look at the MSM as a whole you will see blatant liberal leadings and a tendancy to blame and vilifiy the conservative movement in the US. Hey you go right ahead and keep your little head in the sand...:poke:

Hagbard Celine
06-23-2008, 01:30 PM
They sure as hell called attention to it when the bogus articles of impeachment were brought against president Clinton.

midcan5
06-23-2008, 01:31 PM
Are you going to post this on as many sites as you can just to see if you can catch a bite or something??

I think if you look at the MSM as a whole you will see blatant liberal leadings and a tendancy to blame and vilifiy the conservative movement in the US. Hey you go right ahead and keep your little head in the sand...

Didn't realize you had so much time you read all the blogs on the internet. You must be very learned.

I don't think you are looking at MSM as I never see that, except maybe on some of the more liberal web sites. MSM is conservative as it has no choice today, it is business and in the business world one does not make waves. Consider for instance poverty in the US today, it has increased and in some areas is quite bad, how often has MSM covered it, not enough that I have ever seen it and I watch enough to know the major strings of BS being covered.

avatar4321
06-23-2008, 01:46 PM
They sure as hell called attention to it when the bogus articles of impeachment were brought against president Clinton.

Clinton actually broke the law. and was actually impeached.

avatar4321
06-23-2008, 01:47 PM
Didn't realize you had so much time you read all the blogs on the internet. You must be very learned.

I don't think you are looking at MSM as I never see that, except maybe on some of the more liberal web sites. MSM is conservative as it has no choice today, it is business and in the business world one does not make waves. Consider for instance poverty in the US today, it has increased and in some areas is quite bad, how often has MSM covered it, not enough that I have ever seen it and I watch enough to know the major strings of BS being covered.

Do they every shut up about it? They go on and on about how horrible things are.

Gaffer
06-23-2008, 01:47 PM
The MSM is only considered conservative by those so far to the left they can't even see the right. You know the ones, they hate America and the Constitution and freedom. They are communists to the core. midcan is one of their spokes persons.

red states rule
06-23-2008, 01:52 PM
Most viewers see the liberal bias

Voters Give Media Failing Grades in Objectivity for Election 2008

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Just 17% of voters nationwide believe that most reporters try to offer unbiased coverage of election campaigns. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that four times as many—68%--believe most reporters try to help the candidate that they want to win.

The perception that reporters are advocates rather than observers is held by 82% of Republicans, 56% of Democrats, and 69% of voters not affiliated with either major party. The skepticism about reporters cuts across income, racial, gender, and age barriers.

Ideologically, political liberals give the least pessimistic assessment of reporters, but even 50% of those on the political left see bias. Thirty-three percent (33%) of liberals believe most reporters try to be objective. Moderates, by a 65% to 17% margin, see reporters as advocates, not scribes. Among political conservatives, only 7% see reporters as objective while 83% believe they are biased.

Given these results, it’s not surprising that 76% of voters believe the media has too much power and influence over elections. Just 3% believe the Fourth Estate has too little influence while 16% say the balance is about right.

Eighty-seven percent (87%) of Republicans believe the media has too much influence along with 80% of unaffiliated voters and 65% of Democrats.

Voters have little doubt as to who is benefitting from the media coverage this year—Barack Obama. Fifty-four percent (54%) say Obama has gotten the best coverage so far. Twenty-two percent (22%) say McCain has received the most favorable coverage while 14% say that Hillary got the best treatment.

At the other extreme, 43% say Clinton received the worst treatment from the media. Twenty-seven percent (27%) say the media was roughest on McCain and only 15% thought the media coverage was most unfair to Obama.

Looking ahead to the fall campaign, 44% believe most reporters will try to help Obama while only 13% believe that most will try to help McCain. Twenty-four percent (24%) are optimistic enough to believe that most reporters will try to offer unbiased coverage.

Even Democrats tend to believe their candidate will receive better treatment—27% of those in Obama’s party believe most reporters will try to help him win while only 16% believe they will help McCain. A plurality of Democrats—34%--believe most reporters will be unbiased.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/voters_give_media_failing_grades_in_objectivity_fo r_election_2008

Hagbard Celine
06-23-2008, 02:18 PM
Clinton actually broke the law. and was actually impeached.

And then was found not-guilty because the charges were bogus. A fact that you conservatives always seem to leave out. :rolleyes:

red states rule
06-23-2008, 02:20 PM
And then was found not-guilty because the charges were bogus. A fact that you conservatives always seem to leave out. :rolleyes:

So are you saying Bill did NOT lie under oath?

Hagbard Celine
06-23-2008, 02:23 PM
So are you saying Bill did NOT lie under oath?

I'm saying the whole thing was bogus.

Kathianne
06-23-2008, 02:25 PM
I'm saying the whole thing was bogus.

However, you are NOT saying that he did not lie. You are not saying he didn't perjure himself.

hjmick
06-23-2008, 02:26 PM
Clinton was never convicted of perjury, though he was found to be in contempt of court and was eventually stripped of his law license.

red states rule
06-23-2008, 02:28 PM
I'm saying the whole thing was bogus.

So as long as the President is a Dem, he can lie under oath, and get a pass from you