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midcan5
07-23-2008, 11:28 AM
The Mother of All Messes By Paul Craig Roberts

"Republicans are sending around the Internet a photo of a cute little boy whose T-shirt reads: “The mess in my pants is nothing compared to the mess Democrats will make of this country if they win Nov. 2nd.”

One can only wonder at the insouciance of this message. Are Republicans unaware of the amazing mess the Bush regime has made?

It is impossible to imagine a bigger mess. Republicans have us at war in two countries as a result of Republican lies and deceptions, and we might be in two more wars--Iran and Pakistan--by November. We have alienated the entire Muslim world and most of the rest.

The dollar has lost 60% of its value against the euro, and the once mighty dollar is losing its reserve currency role.

The Republicans’ policies have driven up the price of both oil and gold by 400%.

Inflation is in double digits. Employment is falling.

The Republican economy in the 21st century has been unable to create net new jobs for Americans except for low wage domestic services such as waitresses, bartenders, retail clerks and hospital orderlies."

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts07232008.html

cubfan
07-23-2008, 11:41 AM
I recognize you are posting an article written by someone else, but could you explain how our energy policy is responsible for oil going up? Specifically, what changed in 2001 vs policy before then.

Thanks...

GW in Ohio
07-23-2008, 11:56 AM
I recognize you are posting an article written by someone else, but could you explain how our energy policy is responsible for oil going up? Specifically, what changed in 2001 vs policy before then.

Thanks...

Who the hell is this "Cubfan" character, and where did he come from?

Little-Acorn
07-23-2008, 12:02 PM
Who the hell is this "Cubfan" character, and where did he come from?

You know the leftists are losing when they resort to claiming Republicans are more of a threat than Hitler, Kruschev, secession, Al Qaeda, and the British in the 18th century.

Especially when they attack the messenger rather than respond to the message, as little GWO tries to do here. :lol:

Abbey Marie
07-23-2008, 12:05 PM
The Mother of All Messes By Paul Craig Roberts

"Republicans are sending around the Internet a photo of a cute little boy whose T-shirt reads: “The mess in my pants is nothing compared to the mess Democrats will make of this country if they win Nov. 2nd.”

One can only wonder at the insouciance of this message. Are Republicans unaware of the amazing mess the Bush regime has made?

It is impossible to imagine a bigger mess. Republicans have us at war in two countries as a result of Republican lies and deceptions, and we might be in two more wars--Iran and Pakistan--by November. We have alienated the entire Muslim world and most of the rest.

The dollar has lost 60% of its value against the euro, and the once mighty dollar is losing its reserve currency role.

The Republicans’ policies have driven up the price of both oil and gold by 400%.

Inflation is in double digits. Employment is falling.

The Republican economy in the 21st century has been unable to create net new jobs for Americans except for low wage domestic services such as waitresses, bartenders, retail clerks and hospital orderlies."

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts07232008.html


Judging by the bolded quote, the author has a very limited imagination.

Little-Acorn
07-23-2008, 12:07 PM
Judging by the bolded quote, the author has a very limited imagination.

The author doesn't need an imagination. Just some copy/paste tools and a list of Democrat talking points, no matter how frequently debunked.

5stringJeff
07-23-2008, 12:17 PM
The dollar has lost 60% of its value against the euro, and the once mighty dollar is losing its reserve currency role.

The Republicans’ policies have driven up the price of both oil and gold by 400%.

Inflation is in double digits. Employment is falling.

Exactly which policies have resulted in these outcomes? I would argue that the lion's share of the fault for these things falls on the Fed Chairman, Ben Bernanke, who gets his dual mission of protection against inflation and maintaining a "healthy" economy from Congress.

Joe Steel
07-23-2008, 12:28 PM
I recognize you are posting an article written by someone else, but could you explain how our energy policy is responsible for oil going up? Specifically, what changed in 2001 vs policy before then.

Thanks...

The article didn't say "energy policy is responsible for oil going up." It said: "The Republicans’ policies have driven up the price of both oil and gold by 400%."

Republicans screwed-up much more than just energy policy.

Let's give them credit for being total screw-ups, not just energy screw-ups.

avatar4321
07-23-2008, 12:33 PM
The article didn't say "energy policy is responsible for oil going up." It said: "The Republicans’ policies have driven up the price of both oil and gold by 400%."

Republicans screwed-up much more than just energy policy.

Let's give them credit for being total screw-ups, not just energy screw-ups.


Funny, the majority of the gas price increase came during the Democrat Congress... yet somehow it's the President fault.

If you guys have a solution, provide it. Fix the damn problem. Dont think the American people are stupid enough to let you blame the President when you guys have the Congress and are blocking energy independence.

avatar4321
07-23-2008, 12:36 PM
Judging by the bolded quote, the author has a very limited imagination.

That's an understatement. We still have a growing economy. We have liberated multiple nations from tyranny. Prevented terrorist attacks on our soil for nearly 7 years.

Even with the gas prices and the falling dollar, we aren't in really bad shape. Im not saying we shouldnt be concerned. But to think this is somehow a disasterous is either disingenous or demonstrates a strong ignorance of history.

namvet
07-23-2008, 12:49 PM
The article didn't say "energy policy is responsible for oil going up." It said: "The Republicans’ policies have driven up the price of both oil and gold by 400%."

Republicans screwed-up much more than just energy policy.

Let's give them credit for being total screw-ups, not just energy screw-ups.

well if thats so then why are the criminal liberals in washington blocking drilling??? can you explains this to us??? ill wait

Abbey Marie
07-23-2008, 01:24 PM
That's an understatement. We still have a growing economy. We have liberated multiple nations from tyranny. Prevented terrorist attacks on our soil for nearly 7 years.

Even with the gas prices and the falling dollar, we aren't in really bad shape. Im not saying we shouldnt be concerned. But to think this is somehow a disasterous is either disingenous or demonstrates a strong ignorance of history.

Exactly. I'm voting for the former in this case, and in most others like it.

namvet
07-23-2008, 01:46 PM
That's an understatement. We still have a growing economy. We have liberated multiple nations from tyranny. Prevented terrorist attacks on our soil for nearly 7 years.

Even with the gas prices and the falling dollar, we aren't in really bad shape. Im not saying we shouldnt be concerned. But to think this is somehow a disasterous is either disingenous or demonstrates a strong ignorance of history.

know why the gas prices are falling???? America is threatening to drill for oil. and we need to keep up this threat. I found out something interesting about ANWAR today

avatar4321
07-23-2008, 05:48 PM
know why the gas prices are falling???? America is threatening to drill for oil. and we need to keep up this threat. I found out something interesting about ANWAR today

What's that?

April15
07-23-2008, 06:02 PM
The Mother of All Messes By Paul Craig Roberts

"Republicans are sending around the Internet a photo of a cute little boy whose T-shirt reads: “The mess in my pants is nothing compared to the mess Democrats will make of this country if they win Nov. 2nd.”

One can only wonder at the insouciance of this message. Are Republicans unaware of the amazing mess the Bush regime has made?

It is impossible to imagine a bigger mess. Republicans have us at war in two countries as a result of Republican lies and deceptions, and we might be in two more wars--Iran and Pakistan--by November. We have alienated the entire Muslim world and most of the rest.

The dollar has lost 60% of its value against the euro, and the once mighty dollar is losing its reserve currency role.

The Republicans’ policies have driven up the price of both oil and gold by 400%.

Inflation is in double digits. Employment is falling.

The Republican economy in the 21st century has been unable to create net new jobs for Americans except for low wage domestic services such as waitresses, bartenders, retail clerks and hospital orderlies."

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts07232008.html

I am not religious but give that a big AMEN!

namvet
07-23-2008, 06:28 PM
What's that?

ANWR is only 74 miles from the Alaska pipeline. 74 miles and shove it up OPEC's ass !!!!

video (video)

anwr photos (anwr photos)


http://www.anwr.org/gallery/images/06-Central%20%20Alaska.jpg

wonder what their walking on hmmmm hope they eat democraps

http://www.anwr.org/gallery/images/11-Bears%20on%20pipeline.jpg


F85LSJtVorA

namvet
07-23-2008, 07:26 PM
Energy/National Security
National Security Demands More Diverse Energy Supplies


By Charli Coon

As the nation braces to deal with the national security threat of terrorism, Washington must ensure an adequate supply of oil from reliable sources at reasonably stable prices. Disruptions in oil supply, such as occurred after the 1973 Arab-Israeli war, the 1979 Iranian revolution, and the 1990 invasion of Kuwait by Iraq, reinforce the need to reduce America's dependence on Middle Eastern oil.

The United States first experienced oil disruptions in the 1970s when two sudden and sharp oil price hikes rocked the economy. These disruptions damaged industries that depend on oil and forced Americans to realize how vulnerable the nation was to instability in the Middle East. Sufficient and reliable supplies of energy are vital to U.S. energy and economic security.

At the time of the 1973 Arab oil embargo, the United States imported about 35 percent of its oil. Since then, oil imports have increased to about 53 percent of American consumption. The Energy Information Administration at the U.S. Department of Energy estimates that the United States will increase its dependence on foreign oil to about 66 percent by 2030, much of it from the Persian Gulf region.

The recent terrorist attacks on the United States should remind policymakers that concentrating oil imports from any one region of the world, such as the Middle East, places America's energy and economic security at risk. Promoting diversity in supplies, enhancing the transportation and delivery of supplies, developing other fuel sources, and increasing energy efficiency to reduce America's dependence on oil from the Gulf region are sound policies.

Reducing America's Dependence on Middle East Oil.
Reliance on imported oil has increased steadily over the past 25 years. According to Energy Department data, the United States increased its oil imports between 1973 and 1996 by about 40 percent. In 1996, net imports of oil were about 46 percent of total oil consumption, with approximately 17 percent coming from the Persian Gulf.

In 2000, the United States imported about 24 percent of its oil from the Middle East. Nearly 55 percent of America's gross oil imports that year came from four countries: Canada (15 percent), Saudi Arabia and Venezuela (14 percent each), and Mexico (12 percent). Currently, slightly over 50 percent of the oil that the United States imports every day comes from the Western Hemisphere.

The Middle East holds over two-thirds of the world's oil reserves, followed by 14 percent in the Western Hemisphere and 7 percent in Africa. Clearly, Middle East oil producers will remain vital to the global economy. Prolonged unrest and disruptions of supplies from this region, however, will wreak economic havoc throughout the world.

While it is unlikely that the United States will ever be self-sufficient in meeting its oil needs, greater diversity of oil imports would reduce market instability and prices paid by consumers. President George W. Bush, in his national energy plan, recognizes the global nature and importance of the energy marketplace. His plan emphasizes the importance of strengthening U.S. trade alliances with major oil producers and greater oil production in the Western Hemisphere, Africa, the Caspian Sea region, and other regions with abundant oil resources. Increased U.S., Canadian, and Mexican energy production, pipeline linkages, and cooperation, for example, would enhance America's energy security and advance the economies of each of these countries.

In addition to increasing domestic production and upgrading the nation's infrastructure, to reduce U.S. dependence on foreign oil, Congress should take steps to strengthen trade relations with other oil-producing regions or countries, such as Canada, Mexico, Latin America, and Africa, and ensure that America has a diversity of fuels available beyond oil to meets its needs.

Importance of Oil to the Military.
Sufficient and reliable supplies of energy are essential for the nation's military in times of peace, but they are especially so when it engages in military action. For example, Greenwire reported on September 17 that the 582,000 soldiers in the Persian Gulf War consumed 450,000 barrels of petroleum products each day. It takes eight times more oil to meet the needs of each soldier today than it did during World War II. Further, the Department of Defense accounts for about 80 percent of the U.S. government's energy use, of which nearly 75 percent is for jet fuel. It is essential that Washington pursue a diverse supply of oil to meet its security needs.

Terrorism and Oil. Clearly, the more dependent the United States becomes on oil from the Middle East, the more influence instability in that region could have on the economy. The Department of Energy estimates that Middle Eastern nations could nearly triple their oil revenues by 2010, to $250 billion per year. Such wealth gives nations--including those that are strongly anti-Western--tremendous purchasing power for weapons and international influence. Countries hosting or harboring terrorists could disrupt America's vital supplies of oil.

The oil-rich Middle East is infested with a wide variety of the world's most dangerous terrorist groups, including Osama bin Laden's terrorist network. Bin Laden remains the prime suspect in the ongoing investigation to determine who was behind the September 11 terrorist attacks. Al-Qaeda cells are believed to exist in at least 35 countries or regions throughout the world, including Canada and Africa, two of America's significant suppliers of imported oil. Eradicating terrorism from wherever it is located would help to ensure the stability of oil supplies for much of the world.

Conclusion.
Energy is a global commodity that is essential for economic stability and national security. The Bush plan sets forth a process for enhancing domestic supplies of energy, upgrading the nation's aging infrastructure, increasing energy efficiency, advancing renewable and alternative fuels, and increasing the diversity of supply. The recent terrorist attacks highlight the need to begin this process now.


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what started the 73 crisis???

The 1973 oil crisis began on October 17, 1973, when the members of Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries (OAPEC, consisting of the Arab members of OPEC plus Egypt and Syria) announced, as a result of the ongoing Yom Kippur War, that they would no longer ship oil to nations that had supported Israel in its conflict with Syria and Egypt (the United States, its allies in Western Europe, and Japan).



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recently the democraps came dangerously close to cutting off OPEC oil completely !!!! they sued OPEC for higher production. and it back fired. as everything they attempt does


America Challenged Democrats on Gas Prices and Democrats Responded....
Democrats decided to sue OPEC.

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http://bp2.blogger.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/SDVp3lhZNvI/AAAAAAAAN0Y/Uu3lBsiSAR8/s1600/no%2Bzone.jpg

so do we defend ourselves or leave our security for children and future generations in the hands of democraps, OPEC and terrorists ??????? in staying on topic CLEARLY the DNC is the biggest threat this nation faces. even bigger than terrorism !!!!!