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LiberalNation
03-09-2007, 10:20 PM
Atleast they admit and say they'll fix it this time.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070310/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/national_security_letters;_ylt=AhUT3sCsbcO4XDaqMdu mFUkDW7oF

WASHINGTON - The nation's top two law enforcement officials acknowledged Friday the FBI broke the law to secretly pry out personal information about Americans. They apologized and vowed to prevent further illegal intrusions.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales left open the possibility of pursuing criminal charges against FBI agents or lawyers who improperly used the USA Patriot Act in pursuit of suspected terrorists and spies.

The FBI's transgressions were spelled out in a damning 126-page audit by Justice Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine. He found that agents sometimes demanded personal data on people without official authorization, and in other cases improperly obtained telephone records in non-emergency circumstances.

The audit also concluded that the FBI for three years underreported to Congress how often it used national security letters to ask businesses to turn over customer data. The letters are administrative subpoenas that do not require a judge's approval.

"People have to believe in what we say," Gonzales said. "And so I think this was very upsetting to me. And it's frustrating."

"We have some work to do to reassure members of Congress and the American people that we are serious about being responsible in the exercise of these authorities," he said.

Under the Patriot Act, the national security letters give the FBI authority to demand that telephone companies, Internet service providers, banks, credit bureaus and other businesses produce personal records about their customers or subscribers. About three-fourths of the letters issued between 2003 and 2005 involved counterterror cases, with the rest for espionage investigations, the audit reported.

Shoddy record-keeping and human error were to blame for the bulk of the problems, said Justice auditors, who were careful to note they found no indication of criminal misconduct.

Still, "we believe the improper or illegal uses we found involve serious misuses of national security letter authorities," the audit concluded.

FBI Director Robert S. Mueller said many of the problems were being fixed, including by building a better internal data collection system and training employees on the limits of their authority. The FBI has also scrapped the use of "exigent letters," which were used to gather information without the signed permission of an authorized official.

"But the question should and must be asked: How could this happen? Who is accountable?" Mueller said. "And the answer to that is, I am to be held accountable."

Mueller said he had not been asked to resign, nor had he discussed doing so with other officials. He said employees would probably face disciplinary actions, not criminal charges, following an internal investigation of how the violations occurred.

The audit incensed lawmakers in Congress already seething over the recent dismissals of eight U.S. attorneys. Democrats who lead House and Senate judiciary and intelligence oversight panels promised hearings on the findings. Several lawmakers — Republicans and Democrats alike — raised the possibility of scaling back the FBI's authority.

"It's up to Congress to end these abuses as soon as possible," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., who sits on the Senate Judiciary Committee. "The Patriot Act was never intended to allow the Bush administration to violate fundamental constitutional rights."

Rep. Pete Hoekstra, top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, said the audit shows "a major failure by Justice to uphold the law."

"If the Justice Department is going to enforce the law, it must follow it as well," said Hoekstra, of Michigan.

The American Civil Liberties Union said the audit proves Congress must amend the Patriot Act to require judicial approval anytime the FBI wants access to sensitive personal information.

"The attorney general and the FBI are part of the problem, and they cannot be trusted to be part of the solution," said ACLU's executive director, Anthony D. Romero.

Both Gonzales and Mueller called the national security letters vital tools in pursuing terrorists and spies in the United States. "They are the bread and butter of our investigations," Mueller said.

Gonzales asked the inspector general to issue a follow-up audit in July on whether the FBI had followed recommendations to fix the problems.

Fine's annual review is required by Congress, over the objections of the Bush administration. It concluded that the number of national security letters requested by the FBI skyrocketed in the years after the Patriot Act became law. Each letter issued may contain several requests.

In 2000, for example, the FBI issued an estimated 8,500 requests. That number peaked in 2004 with 56,000. Overall, the FBI reported issuing 143,074 requests in national security letters between 2003 and 2005.

But that did not include an additional 8,850 requests that were never recorded in the FBI's database, the audit found. A sample review of 77 case files at four FBI field offices showed that agents had underreported the number of national security letter requests by about 22 percent.

Additionally, the audit found, the FBI identified 26 possible violations in its use of the letters, including failing to get proper authorization, making improper requests under the law and unauthorized collection of telephone or Internet e-mail records.

The FBI also used exigent letters to quickly get information — sometimes in non-emergency situations — without going through proper channels. In at least 700 cases, these letters were sent to three telephone companies to get billing records and subscriber information, the audit found.

Hobbit
03-09-2007, 11:12 PM
Totally off topic, but I am highly offended by that avatar. Keep it if you like, but I must ask "Why?"

LiberalNation
03-09-2007, 11:14 PM
Thought it was lighter than the burning flag one but still exspressed the point. Since people were so pissed about the other one.

Hobbit
03-09-2007, 11:17 PM
Thought it was lighter than the burning flag one but still exspressed the point. Since people were so pissed about the other one.

Just found the thread, will get back to you later. I still don't appreciate the stars and stripes being hung upside-down, though yes, it is preferable to seeing one burn, which I guess I just wasn't paying attention to earlier today (didn't sleep well last night).

Yurt
03-09-2007, 11:35 PM
Thought it was lighter than the burning flag one but still exspressed the point. Since people were so pissed about the other one.

So then you don't believe in this country?

Also, how many countries on this dear planet would allow you to get away with the upside down flag? Will you move to those countries?

LiberalNation
03-10-2007, 02:57 PM
That's good but seems strange you would have supreme confidence in the head FBI guy that allowed it to happen in the first place. Why does Bush always have supreme confidence in his people when they fuck up.

Bush vows swift action in FBI records scandal

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070310/pl_nm/fbi_patriotact_bush_dc;_ylt=Ao1Eu.7v0ZmGjZ9L49YQ4F Ws0NUE

ANCHORENA PARK, Uruguay (Reuters) - President Bush pledged swift action on Saturday over findings that the FBI illegally or improperly obtained private records during terrorism and espionage investigations.

Bush, visiting Uruguay on a Latin American tour, insisted he had confidence in FBI Director Robert Mueller and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, despite a Justice Department report of FBI misconduct that has sparked a congressional outcry.

The report added fuel to the fire for the Democratic Party and others criticizing the Bush administration for weakening protections of civil liberties in its war on terrorism after the September 11 attacks on the United States in 2001.

The report by Inspector General Glenn Fine's office rebuked the FBI for demanding, without a court order, customer records from telephone companies, Internet service providers, banks and credit card firms.

"We'll address the problems in the report as quickly as possible," Bush said. Mueller had already begun work, he said.

"My question is: What are you going to do to solve the problem and how fast can you get it solved?" he said at a news conference with Uruguayan President Tabare Vazquez.

The findings of FBI abuses also came as Bush suffers from slumping approval ratings, largely over the 4-year-old war in Iraq, and confronts a newly Democratic-controlled Congress scrutinizing his administration's spending and strategy.

Under the USA Patriot Act, an anti-terrorism law signed after the September 11 attacks, the FBI can use so-called national security letters to compel the release of private information without authority from a judge or grand jury.

Justice Department officials said the FBI can get the records but not the content of communications.

'PART OF THE PROBLEM'

The American Civil Liberties Union called on Congress to repeal the provision of the Patriot Act that allows the FBI to use national security letters.

"The inspector general's report should come as no surprise," said Anthony Romero, executive director of the ACLU. "The attorney general and the FBI are part of the problem and they cannot be trusted to be part of the solution."

While Democrats in Congress have vowed to investigate the findings, Bush said "the IG report, which justly made issue of FBI shortfallings, also made it clear that these letters were important to the security of the United States."

The report found 26 possible violations, including requests by the FBI for information without adequate authorization, improper requests under the law and unauthorized collection of telephone or e-mail records.

Gonzales said he was upset to learn the FBI did not have sufficient controls and failed to follow its own policies.

"Undoubtedly, some will argue that the FBI should forfeit its authority to use this tool," Gonzales said. "Instead, I would urge patience, that we not rush to judgment and allow these substantial corrective measures time to work."

LiberalNation
03-10-2007, 02:59 PM
So then you don't believe in this country?
The upside down flag is a symbol of the belief your country is headed in the wrong direction. Upside down/wrong dirrection get it. Not that you don't believe in the country.

MtnBiker
03-10-2007, 04:38 PM
The upside down flag is a symbol of the belief your country is headed in the wrong direction. Upside down/wrong dirrection get it. Not that you don't believe in the country.

You have used incorrect grammar in this sentence. You should replace your and you with my and I respectively. Since you do not believe that displaying or actions to flags or symbols are universal. Rather based more on a persons beliefs.