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Kathianne
08-12-2008, 11:47 AM
Some good stuff in the article, including debunking the Kosovo excuse:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080812.wcogeorgia12/BNStory/specialComment/



Is Russia morphing into another USSR?
Its leaders are authoritarian, militaristic, greedy and not overly concerned about where their borders end



JOHN O'SULLIVAN

From Tuesday's Globe and Mail

August 12, 2008 at 7:12 AM EDT

PRAGUE — Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out

They leave the West behind

And Moscow girls make me sing and shout

That Georgia's always on my mind.

I'm back in the USSR

You don't know how lucky you are boys

Back in the USSR

- John Lennon and Paul McCartney


It's not only the South Ossetians who are back in the USSR this morning. Other Georgians; countries in Russia's "near abroad" from the Caucasus to the Baltic; "national minorities" such as the Chechens; the West; and even Russians themselves now have to deal with a country and political leadership that bear an eerie similarity to Soviet models. They are authoritarian, militaristic, greedy and not overly concerned about where their borders end.

How lucky we should all feel about this is another matter.

In recent years, the Russian state has been credibly accused of murdering an exile in London; expropriated foreign investments on behalf of an energy company controlled by itself; cut off energy supplies to states as a means of political intimidation; assisted secessionist rebels in neighbouring states in order to keep their newly independent governments off-balance; and in the past few days - no more Mr. Nice Guy - invaded and bombed the sovereign state of Georgia....

This parasitic system has been exported profitably to the "secessionist" regions of Georgia, which the Kremlin claims to be protecting. Almost all the senior officials in the South Ossetian "government" are former KGB officials from various Russian provinces. Its "Interior Minister," for instance, previously served in the Interior Ministry of North Ossetia. As Yulia Latynina of Novaya Gazeta dryly points out: "South Ossetia is not a territory, not a country, not a regime. It is a joint venture of siloviki generals and Ossetian bandits for making money in a conflict with Georgia." The result is a squalid depopulated entrepôt for drugs, smuggling, money-laundering and other criminal endeavours.

In addition to making money for the siloviki, South Ossetia exists for the purpose of destabilizing pro-Western Georgia. Its sporadic shelling of nearby Georgian villages provoked Georgia's President Mikhail Saakashvili into a seemingly catastrophic military response.

But if Georgia had taken no action, Russia would have incorporated the breakaway province by degrees. Mr. Putin had already given South Ossetian residents Russian passports. Both trapdoors led to the same result: Russian expansion; the punishment of Georgia for daring to be an ally of the West; and the annexation of South Ossetia, now occupied by Russian "peacekeepers."

Yes, it's "back in the USSR," boys...

It has been widely argued, for instance, that Mr. Putin's recognition of South Ossetia was a response to the recognition of Kosovo's independence by the United States and European Union. Since Russia has been helping the secessionists for 16 years, this would make Russia's response a unique event in history: the first occasion on which an effect preceded its own cause....

Gaffer
08-12-2008, 12:23 PM
Another good find Kath. Will be interesting to see what the central europe countries do now.If they all started sending troops and aid to Georgia it would send moscow a very hard line message.

If they stand up to them things could escalate or the russians could back down.

Kathianne
08-12-2008, 12:27 PM
Another good find Kath. Will be interesting to see what the central europe countries do now.If they all started sending troops and aid to Georgia it would send moscow a very hard line message.

If they stand up to them things could escalate or the russians could back down.

I agree with your earlier post, troops are not going to happen. Will Russia be turned away from the G-7? Will they be ostracized on other international fronts?

No one is gunning for a world war.

Gaffer
08-12-2008, 12:50 PM
No one wants a war with russia, but you do have to show them your willing to stand up to them. That's what the world, and especially europe, needs to do. There are consequences to every action. There are also consequences for inaction. Kicking them out of the G-8 and other actions would go a long way in getting them to stop their militaristic ways.

The former eastern block countries need to establish their own defense alliance similar to NATO.