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emmett
08-17-2008, 02:49 AM
A questions for Republicans!


Wouldn't you really rather Bob Barr be the Republican nominee for president than John McCain?

1) Who is really more conservative, Bob Barr or John McCain?


2) Whose record is more in line with your personal beliefs, John McCain or Bob Barr?

3) Who as an elected official has more closely represented the mainstream beliefs of conservative minded thinkers, John McCain or Bob Barr?



Explain! Now of course you will probably have to soul search a little and be honest with yourself about a few issues that aren't popular but give it a whirl, eh!

crin63
08-17-2008, 10:32 AM
A questions for Republicans!


Wouldn't you really rather Bob Barr be the Republican nominee for president than John McCain?

1) Who is really more conservative, Bob Barr or John McCain?


2) Whose record is more in line with your personal beliefs, John McCain or Bob Barr?

3) Who as an elected official has more closely represented the mainstream beliefs of conservative minded thinkers, John McCain or Bob Barr?



Explain! Now of course you will probably have to soul search a little and be honest with yourself about a few issues that aren't popular but give it a whirl, eh!


1) Bob Barr
2) Bob Barr
3) Bob Barr

Who will I vote for, probably John McCain. I don't like him, I don't trust and I wish he were not the candidate. It has been a choice of the lesser of 2 evils for a long time now but in this case I think we have the potential of an extreme evil like I haven't seen in my lifetime in Barry. If it were Hillary running I would probably vote for Barr. We at least know there would be shrill nagging for 4 years and not to much damage so she could try to get elected to a 2nd term and then do the damage.

After McCain won I swore I wouldn't vote for him and I wanted to see Republicans bleed a river this election because they were stupid enough to make him the nominee and their abandoning of conservatism. I'm a Conservative 1st and a Republican 2nd politically speaking.

After I saw more of what Barry was really like and that he for all intents and purposes won the nomination I began to change my mind. I was still waffling between Barr and McCain but as November gets closer I am firming up what I will do, like it or not. I'm not going to be responsible for putting Barry in the Whitehouse by voting 3rd party.

I understand voting your conscience and praise God we live in a country where we can. I'm all for building on a 3rd party in the mid-term elections to try and pick off some congressional seats as a building point.

I would love to see a 3rd party start campaigning in January for 2010 and building momentum behind some very good PRO-American, PRO-Constitutional candidates but I just don't think I can possibly vote for the Ross Perot of this upcoming election. I can live with myself if McCain is elected, I cant live with myself if Barry ends up the President and I voted for Barr who has no chance of winning. For me at this point it would be a protest vote that would feel like nothing more than a temper tantrum.

Theres still 2-1/2 months left, allot can happen between now and then.

Gaffer
08-17-2008, 10:58 AM
What Crin said.

Mr. P
08-17-2008, 11:20 AM
A local talk show guy said this week he'd vote Barr as long as he was confident McCain would carry Ga.

That does eliminate the "wasted vote" issue..I can deal with that.

OCA
08-17-2008, 11:26 AM
Whether you vote for McCain or not..................Obama is going to win big in November.

You know it, I know it, we all know it.

Its a bitter pill to swallow the way W has bent over and fucked future Repub nominees but hey thats reality, we have to deal with it.

Gaffer
08-17-2008, 11:41 AM
Whether you vote for McCain or not..................Obama is going to win big in November.

You know it, I know it, we all know it.

Its a bitter pill to swallow the way W has bent over and fucked future Repub nominees but hey thats reality, we have to deal with it.

If he wins it won't be by a big margin. It's true this country has an excessive amount of stupid people. But the more obamanation talks the more people are becoming aware that he's an empty suit.

Kathianne
08-17-2008, 11:45 AM
Obama should win, with majorities in both houses. The first part of this equation is now in question. Shouldn't be, but never underestimate the Democrats ability to lose what should be an easy win.

OCA
08-17-2008, 11:48 AM
If he wins it won't be by a big margin. It's true this country has an excessive amount of stupid people. But the more obamanation talks the more people are becoming aware that he's an empty suit.

I agree with you that he's an empty suit but ol' Johnny lib can't even find his underwear to begin to put the empty suit on. Basically both candidates, no matter which is elected will bring the country to its knees in one way or another, never in American history have we had such horrible candidates, one who has zero experience and one who sells his soul the first chance he gets and has 1 foot in the grave.

But really this election people will be voting against most anyone who has a big fat (R) by their name, because of W. You could run Jesus himself as a Repub and he'd lose. We all know this is going to happen, lets accept it and move on.

And i'll go on record as saying i'm glad it will happen, the party needs to be forced back to its core beliefs, its simply strayed way too far to the left.

emmett
08-17-2008, 03:10 PM
Who is the most qualified to be president?


We all know in our hearts that it is Bob Barr! He is an ultra conservative Republican. If we would get smart, we could elect him.

Please excuse me for what I am about to say to y'all, I think the world of you all, you are good people, who take the time from your lives to debate the issues of importance in our society but.....................................



What kind of Americans can you call yourselves if you go in to that damn booth and vote for an individual whom you know damn good and well does not represent the core beliefs on conservativce Americans. Furthermore, you have had not even the right to spectate at the room in Philadelphia. Now, you go ahead and vote for your "party" candidate. Go ahead. Then after Obama wins anyway, come back here on this board the day after the results and make your excuses, tell how you "had" to do it, tell how John McCain should have won, argue with Gabs, Psycho, Midcan5 and these other lefties (who will be eating it up by the way) and then don't forget to mention hoe you had the opportunity to do what you knew was right but didn't.

Bless you all. I hope the strengh will find you. Just don't blame me my friends, call me a radical, say what I'm saying is hogwash like I have heard from my "friends" on here, I'm kooky, I'm out there, I'm beating a dead horse expecting it to gallup. While all this may indeed be true I can tell you this, on the morning after the election I will get up, take my shower, brush my teeth, drink my coffee and embark on my day knowing I DID THE RIGHT THING!!!! It was not easy, the odds were stacked against me and I probably could not have won but I DID THE RIGHT THING!!!

We grow up and are taught to do the right thing. We teach our children to "do the right thing", we tell them it won't always be easy to do, but that it should ALWAYS be done. You folks, bless your hearts, are acting like followers, not leaders. Crin, ..............................damn, what do I say to a guy I think so much of his opinion but is damn dead WRONG on this!


Here! I'll make one more feeble attempt to put it in the prosepective you folks are.

You feel a vote for Bob Barr takes a vote from JM. I think a vote for Jm takes a vote from Bob Barr who is far better suited to represent my philosophy than John MCain.

If Obama wins, and he might anyway as indicated by Dr. OCA, we will bypass our opportunity to provide the Republican party with the incentive they need to bring us back to reality. If we don't accumulate 10% of the National vote this election, you will have 16 years of Democratic rule. Trust me folks, it will happen. The Republican party is headed in the wrong direction and y'all damn well know it. It's headed for a waterfall but you folks don't like the idea of a little compromise, like the war on drugs, which you know is waste, your pocketbooks would benefit from taxation of this activity and relieve your burden of paying welfare and entitlements to lazy ass Americans and illegals baby's, a flat tax, damn...I know I don't have to sell you that for christ's sake and then there is your liberty people. You are willing to sell your souls to the devil and call it the lesser of eveils. Where is the sense in that???????

I truely hope that we are about to enter into a new level on here. Suddenly, I guess it's me and Jeff and a couple of others have brought us to a threshold of sorts. We are all one in the basic same. We don't disagree on foundation beliefs. As I mentioned, I think the world of you folks. A bunch of people I have never met have had more foundation influence on me than people I have met. You guys are great. But now there is dissention between us that is rooted in our most basic obligation as Americans. We now have a disagreement among similar like minded folks on here. I agree, the balance is way your side, but I bet you that there has never been anything in your life you had rather do that you didn't, now give me at least that, and stop calling me a radical and a fol, when you know damn well that I am right and that it is your own damn conscious that you are struggling with, not me!

God Bless you all. I mean that! God Bless you all, you are precious people. Don't sell yourselves out. If you believe John McCain is the best qualified candidate for president, I'm not talking to you and I apologize for my abruptness, if you feel otherwise and vote for him instead, well...............don't you dare ever set your child down at the table and preach what is right to them again.

OK.......crucify me!

Gaffer
08-17-2008, 03:12 PM
I agree with you that he's an empty suit but ol' Johnny lib can't even find his underwear to begin to put the empty suit on. Basically both candidates, no matter which is elected will bring the country to its knees in one way or another, never in American history have we had such horrible candidates, one who has zero experience and one who sells his soul the first chance he gets and has 1 foot in the grave.

But really this election people will be voting against most anyone who has a big fat (R) by their name, because of W. You could run Jesus himself as a Repub and he'd lose. We all know this is going to happen, lets accept it and move on.

And i'll go on record as saying i'm glad it will happen, the party needs to be forced back to its core beliefs, its simply strayed way too far to the left.

I agree that the repub's are way too far to the left, but the dems are so far left they have entered socialism. obamanation is a communist. If they ever do get full control of the government they will never ever let go without a revolution.

manu1959
08-17-2008, 03:25 PM
A questions for Republicans!
Wouldn't you really rather Bob Barr be the Republican nominee for president than John McCain?
1) Who is really more conservative, Bob Barr or John McCain?
2) Whose record is more in line with your personal beliefs, John McCain or Bob Barr?
3) Who as an elected official has more closely represented the mainstream beliefs of conservative minded thinkers, John McCain or Bob Barr?
Explain! Now of course you will probably have to soul search a little and be honest with yourself about a few issues that aren't popular but give it a whirl, eh!

i would rather have ron paul.........

Kathianne
08-17-2008, 03:27 PM
i would rather have ron paul.........

I'd rather have a non-racist, intelligent, libertarian realist.

manu1959
08-17-2008, 03:39 PM
I'd rather have a non-racist, intelligent, libertarian realist.


name one......

Kathianne
08-17-2008, 03:43 PM
name one......

and that is the problem for that party. Kudos.

emmett
08-17-2008, 03:50 PM
and that is the problem for that party. Kudos.



Ah.............................................Me?

manu1959
08-17-2008, 03:51 PM
Ah.............................................Me?


so why are you voting for bob barr then..........

Kathianne
08-17-2008, 03:55 PM
Ah.............................................Me?

Hardly. I was speaking of Libertarian presidential candidates, as I believe Manu was. Both you and Jeff are stand up, smart guys. That some of us don't agree with you, doesn't change that.

Mr. P
08-17-2008, 04:20 PM
Lets be realistic emmett, some know about Barr but he started way toooo late to get the national exposure he needs to win..that's his fault and not a matter of "us" doing the right thing.

Where are his campaign commercials, media coverage etc? I haven't seen or heard a single thing to date.

OCA
08-18-2008, 02:21 PM
Lets be realistic emmett, some know about Barr but he started way toooo late to get the national exposure he needs to win..that's his fault and not a matter of "us" doing the right thing.

Where are his campaign commercials, media coverage etc? I haven't seen or heard a single thing to date.

So P are you saying that in order to be a viable candidate you have to be the best "media candidate"?

And we wonder why we are in such a mess.