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Little-Acorn
08-22-2008, 01:53 PM
This had to come sooner or later.

Yes, Obama isn't a natural-born US citizen, the Hawaii birth certificate was forged, etc. etc., yada yada.

He mentions at one point that the certificate was "verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts". This is news to me. Anyone know who they were? Or is this just more moonbat hype?

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http://www.americasright.com/2008/08/obama-sued-in-philadelphia-federal.html

Obama Sued in Philadelphia Federal Court on Grounds he is Constitutionally Ineligible for the Presidency

by Jeff Schreiber
Thursday, August 21, 2008

A prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter filed suit this afternoon in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission. The action seeks an injunction preventing the senator from continuing his candidacy and a court order enjoining the DNC from nominating him next week, all on grounds that Sen. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to run for and hold the office of President of the United States.

Phillip Berg, the filing attorney, is a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit--just days before the DNC is to hold its nominating convention in Denver--for the health of the Democratic Party.

"I filed this action at this time," Berg stated, "to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.".

Berg cited a number of unanswered questions regarding the Illinois senator's background, and in today's lawsuit maintained that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls "dual loyalties" due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia.

Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator's use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of "multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries" remains on the table.

In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama's mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, "apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight." As Sen. Obama's own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham--Obama's mother--gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Berg cites inconsistent accounts of Sen. Obama's birth, including reports that he was born at two separate hospitals--Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu, as well a profound lack of birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham, though simple "registry of birth" records for Barack Obama are available in a Hawaiian public records office.

Should Sen. Obama truly have been born in Kenya, Berg writes, the laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Sen. Obama's mother was only 18 at the time. Therefore, because U.S. citizenship could not legally be passed on to him, Obama could not be registered as a "natural born" citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed "natural born," that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama's registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name "Barry Soetoro" and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.

The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama's half-sister.

"Voters donated money, goods and services to elect a nominee and were defrauded by Sen. Obama's lies and obfuscations," Berg stated. "If the DNC officers ... had performed one ounce of due diligence we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship as a child and failed to even perform the basic steps of regaining citizenship as prescribed by constitutional laws."

"It is unfair to the country," he continued, "for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question of the ability to serve if elected."

theHawk
08-22-2008, 02:31 PM
Uh-oh, looks like that "right wing nut" claim that his birth certificate was a forgery might be true! After all its a Dem saying there is proof of it!

It doesn't surprise me one bit that this scumbag's whole life has been one great lie right from the moment he was born!

Little-Acorn
08-22-2008, 02:43 PM
Uh-oh, looks like that "right wing nut" claim that his birth certificate was a forgery might be true! After all its a Dem saying there is proof of it!


Theives falling out.

It's just a couple of leftist moonbats fighting over who can swing the country farther to the left. These people have formed their entire agenda on the technique of coming up with a silly theory, working themselves up until they believe it, and then promoting it as "truth" while bashing their opponents for it. It's quite hilarious to see two of them trying to use the same tactic against each other for a change.

One reason I don't believe in the not-a-real-citizen story: There's no way the Democrats would have failed to discover such an obvious deal-breaker.

Obama has been groomed as a future Presidential candidate since he made the keynote speech at the 2004 Dem convention. The Dems would have investigate him up one side and down the other, espeically with his Kenya residence, oddball parentage etc. No way would they have missed this. If they HAD discovered his birth was Kenyan, or at least questionable, they would have quietly eased him out long ago.

I'd more likely believe that they did investigate, and found proof somehow that he really was born in Hawaii after it had become a state, and so was a genuine U.S. born citizen... and then they got together in a back room and cobbled up a fake birth certificate saying so and listing his real birth place and date, knowing it would set their opponents into a vast wild-goose chase. Sorta like the one we're seeing now.

Sorry, folks. There's lots of reasons to oppose Obama, mostly having to do with his extreme liberalism, Nanny-state devotion, foreign-policy appeasement, etc. But he's as much an American-born citizen as you and I are. That one is a non-starter.

theHawk
08-22-2008, 02:53 PM
I don't know why you think democrats would of failed to discover such things. These people could care less about the evidence of corruption, they know the media will just ignore it and it will all be swept under the rug. Its been the Democrat way, just look at all the evidence of B.J. Clinton's past before he became the nominee. Everyone knew he was a womanizer and was going to have women come out and say so. They just didn't give a shit, they chose to ignore all the warning signs because he has a (D) behind his name.