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Psychoblues
08-25-2008, 01:16 AM
This is serious, folks!!!!!!!! These people are our allies and this operation involves our participation as well!!!!!!!!

Source: NY Times

The president of Switzerland stepped to a podium in Bern last May and read a statement confirming rumors that had swirled through the capital for months. The government, he acknowledged, had indeed destroyed a huge trove of computer files and other material documenting the business dealings of a family of Swiss engineers suspected of helping smuggle nuclear technology to Libya and Iran.

The files were of particular interest not only to Swiss prosecutors but to international atomic inspectors working to unwind the activities of Abdul Qadeer Khan, the Pakistani bomb pioneer-turned-nuclear black marketeer. The Swiss engineers, Friedrich Tinner and his two sons, were accused of having deep associations with Dr. Khan, acting as middlemen in his dealings with rogue nations seeking nuclear equipment and expertise.

The Swiss president, Pascal Couchepin, took no questions. But he asserted that the files — which included an array of plans for nuclear arms and technologies, among them a highly sophisticated Pakistani bomb design — had been destroyed so that they would never fall into terrorist hands.

Behind that official explanation, though, is a far more intriguing tale of spies, moles and the compromises that governments make in the name of national security.

The United States had urged that the files be destroyed, according to interviews with five current and former Bush administration officials. The purpose, the officials said, was less to thwart terrorists than to hide evidence of a clandestine relationship between the Tinners and the C.I.A.......

More: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/25/world/25nuke.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Shadowy,,,,,,,deals,,,,,,,could it be the Republicans?!?!?!?!?!?!?!???!

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crin63
08-25-2008, 01:55 AM
Shadowy,,,,,,,deals,,,,,,,could it be the Republicans?!?!?!?!?!?!?!???!

Hey PB, I think you left out a very important part to the story.


Over four years, several of these officials said, operatives of the C.I.A. paid the Tinners as much as $10 million, some of it delivered in a suitcase stuffed with cash. In return, the Tinners delivered a flow of secret information that helped end Libya’s bomb program, reveal Iran’s atomic labors and, ultimately, undo Dr. Khan’s nuclear black market.

It sounds like you have a problem with this. I only read the 1st page so maybe I missed something but personally I don't care what kind of backdoor deals are done to eliminate nukes. I would applaud a Democrat if they accomplished that much for $10 million.

Did I miss something or misunderstand your point?

Either way the next round of non-alcoholics is on me. What will it be?

Psychoblues
08-25-2008, 03:16 AM
This type thing is completely contrary to the non-proliferation treaties that we have with them. Even though it appears that we were also instrumental in this, this leaves the integrity of the treaties exposed to further and more damaging abuses by who knows who? I am very concerned about this and I think you should be as well!!!!! Back door deals are not and never have been my cup of tea, if you know what I mean!!!!!!!!!!


Hey PB, I think you left out a very important part to the story.

It sounds like you have a problem with this. I only read the 1st page so maybe I missed something but personally I don't care what kind of backdoor deals are done to eliminate nukes. I would applaud a Democrat if they accomplished that much for $10 million.

Did I miss something or misunderstand your point?

Either way the next round of non-alcoholics is on me. What will it be?



How about a good ol' Western Saspirilly!!!!!!!!!

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