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Mr. P
08-27-2008, 08:37 PM
All the flag waving at the DNC convention tonight...for Obama..don't these people understand they are cheering and waving the flag for a maxist!!??
Just DUMB!

Yurt
08-27-2008, 10:38 PM
All the flag waving at the DNC convention tonight...for Obama..don't these people understand they are cheering and waving the flag for a maxist!!??
Just DUMB!

they want that, the masses want that....are we dumb to assume they do not?

Dilloduck
08-27-2008, 10:41 PM
All the flag waving at the DNC convention tonight...for Obama..don't these people understand they are cheering and waving the flag for a maxist!!??
Just DUMB!

I was sorta hoping Kerry would burn one as he spoke just to reassert the right to do it.

midcan5
08-28-2008, 04:27 PM
Ok please tell us what a Marxist is and why Obama is a Marxist?

Mr. P
08-28-2008, 05:59 PM
Ok please tell us what a Marxist is and why Obama is a Marxist?

Google is your friend.

Immanuel
08-28-2008, 07:43 PM
Ok please tell us what a Marxist is and why Obama is a Marxist?

All you ever needed to know about marxist and then some from the fingers of "Youth for International Socialism" and the some.

http://www.newyouth.com/archives/theory/what_is_marxism.asp

http://www.newyouth.com/archives/classics/marxengels/communistmanifesto.html

Class warfare!


The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

Our epoch, the epoch of the bourgeoisie, possesses, however, this distinct feature: it has simplified class antagonisms. Society as a whole is more and more splitting up into two great hostile camps, into two great classes directly facing each other -- bourgeoisie and proletariat.



Destruction of the Family!



Abolition of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists.



Termination of Property Rights!


In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.

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Capital is therefore not only personal; it is a social power.

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When, therefore, capital is converted into common property, into the property of all members of society, personal property is not thereby transformed into social property. It is only the social character of the property that is changed. It loses its class character.

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In one word, you reproach us with intending to do away with your property. Precisely so; that is just what we intend.


What the Communists really want!


Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in he hands of the state.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.

When, in the course of development, class distinctions have disappeared, and all production has been concentrated in the hands of a vast association of the whole nation, the public power will lose its political character. Political power, properly so called, is merely the organized power of one class for oppressing another. If the proletariat during its contest with the bourgeoisie is compelled, by the force of circumstances, to organize itself as a class; if, by means of a revolution, it makes itself the ruling class, and, as such, sweeps away by force the old conditions of production, then it will, along with these conditions, have swept away the conditions for the existence of class antagonisms and of classes generally, and will thereby have abolished its own supremacy as a class.

In place of the old bourgeois society, with its classes and class antagonisms, we shall have an association in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all.

Marxism is the first step towards complete socialism.

Why is Obama a Marxist? Well, according to YoIS, it would be because everyone of Obama's policies are socialistic in nature. Obama and the Democrats are pushing us towards Socialism. Now, you may think being a slave of the state is a good thing, but I personally am not all that thrilled with the idea.

Damn! While I was reading that manifesto, I had to wonder if Barack Obama wrote it himself with all his, "I was one of you" speeches.

Immie