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red states rule
08-28-2008, 11:39 AM
All week at the Dem convention, we were told how rotten the US economy is, and how the US economy is a soup line economy

Yet the GDP came in at a 3.3% growth rate for the 2nd quarter

Will the messiah fess up tonight the US economy is not in a recession?



GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT AND CORPORATE PROFITS: Second Quarter 2008 (Preliminary)

Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services produced by labor and propertylocated in the United States -- increased at an annual rate of 3.3 percent in the second quarter of 2008,(that is, from the first quarter to the second quarter), according to preliminary estimates released by theBureau of Economic Analysis. In the first quarter, real GDP increased 0.9 percent.

The GDP estimates released today are based on more complete source data than were available for the advance estimates issued last month. In the advance estimates, the increase in real GDP was 1.9
percent (see "Revisions" on page 3).

The increase in real GDP in the second quarter primarily reflected positive contributions from exports, personal consumption expenditures (PCE), federal government spending, nonresidential structures, and state and local government spending that were partly offset by negative contributions
from private inventory investment, residential fixed investment, and equipment and software. Imports, which are a subtraction in the calculation of GDP, decreased.


http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdpnewsrelease.htm

April15
08-28-2008, 01:26 PM
Perhaps you are wealthy and are not affected by the economic realities of rising prices and stagnant pay. The choice of not going to the movies so you have gas money to get to work. And lets not forget the historic number of unsold houses.

manu1959
08-28-2008, 02:14 PM
Perhaps you are wealthy and are not affected by the economic realities of rising prices and stagnant pay. The choice of not going to the movies so you have gas money to get to work. And lets not forget the historic number of unsold houses.

i long for the good olde days ......ahhhhhhhhhhhhh the 70's

MtnBiker
08-28-2008, 02:18 PM
Perhaps you are wealthy and are not affected by the economic realities of rising prices and stagnant pay. The choice of not going to the movies so you have gas money to get to work. And lets not forget the historic number of unsold houses.

Oh I see the economy as a whole should be measured by your personal situtation.

manu1959
08-28-2008, 02:25 PM
Oh I see the economy as a whole should be measured by your personal situtation.

well he is a liberal and the world does revolve around him.....

Sitarro
08-28-2008, 03:13 PM
Perhaps you are wealthy and are not affected by the economic realities of rising prices and stagnant pay. The choice of not going to the movies so you have gas money to get to work. And lets not forget the historic number of unsold houses.

My heart bleeds peanut butter for you, get a fucking job!

April15
08-28-2008, 03:28 PM
Oh I see the economy as a whole should be measured by your personal situtation.A small lesson in economics in order here. Those who have very seldom do without and at worst pay a little more for the same things.
Those who do not have disposable income of 20,000 a year do have choices to make when economies turn a little south.
Now I speak with many people from varied groups and livelyhoods.
When a person walks down a street and every fifth house is for sale and have been for months that is a good indicator of recession.

April15
08-28-2008, 03:29 PM
well he is a liberal and the world does revolve around him.....Actually the world revolves on an axis.

April15
08-28-2008, 03:30 PM
My heart bleeds peanut butter for you, get a fucking job!I don't like peanut butter. A job would be nice but in a recession they are far and few between.

MtnBiker
08-28-2008, 03:34 PM
The choice of not going to the movies so you have gas money to get to work.

Wow!! there must be millions of people going to moives and not to work.


Total Box Office Gross: $6,587,000,639
Tickets sold: 957,412,877
Average ticket price:$6.88


http://www.the-numbers.com/market/2008.php

MtnBiker
08-28-2008, 03:36 PM
I don't like peanut butter. A job would be nice but in a recession they are far and few between.

Like it or not a recession is a defined economic situation and the US as not currently met that definetion.

April15
08-28-2008, 03:37 PM
Wow!! there must be millions of people going to moives and not to work.


http://www.the-numbers.com/market/2008.php

Must be. I surley am not one.

MtnBiker
08-28-2008, 03:43 PM
Must be. I surley am not one.

Are you really claiming that millions of people are choosing to spend money going moives rather than buying gas to go to work?

Or perhaps they are doing both, oh the horror!

Trigg
08-28-2008, 03:44 PM
A small lesson in economics in order here. Those who have very seldom do without and at worst pay a little more for the same things.
Those who do not have disposable income of 20,000 a year do have choices to make when economies turn a little south.
Now I speak with many people from varied groups and livelyhoods.
When a person walks down a street and every fifth house is for sale and have been for months that is a good indicator of recession.

It's also a good indication that the houseing bubble has burst because of poor lending practices and people buying houses that they couldn't afford.

The US is not in a recession, and gas prices are coming down.

red states rule
08-28-2008, 04:29 PM
Perhaps you are wealthy and are not affected by the economic realities of rising prices and stagnant pay. The choice of not going to the movies so you have gas money to get to work. And lets not forget the historic number of unsold houses.

and how many of the new Maden 08 video games were sold?

I see places like Red Lobster are still packed

Wal Mart is still crowded

Seems people are living down to all your doom and gloom BS you libs toss out about the economy

April15
08-28-2008, 05:20 PM
and how many of the new Maden 08 video games were sold?

I see places like Red Lobster are still packed

Wal Mart is still crowded

Seems people are living down to all your doom and gloom BS you libs toss out about the economyThere are no redlobsters here or walmarts. I can't see why people buy computer games when they are as i'm told nothing like real life.

April15
08-28-2008, 05:20 PM
It's also a good indication that the houseing bubble has burst because of poor lending practices and people buying houses that they couldn't afford.

The US is not in a recession, and gas prices are coming down.Maybe where you are at but not here.

red states rule
08-28-2008, 05:22 PM
There are no redlobsters here or walmarts. I can't see why people buy computer games when they are as i'm told nothing like real life.

Well the examples I sited show there is no shortage of people spending. They must not pay much attention to the liberal media and doom and gloomers like you

BTW, liberals and their message have little to do with real life as well

April15
08-28-2008, 05:33 PM
Well the examples I sited show there is no shortage of people spending. They must not pay much attention to the liberal media and doom and gloomers like you

BTW, liberals and their message have little to do with real life as wellI find it to be the other way in life.

red states rule
08-28-2008, 05:35 PM
I find it to be the other way in life.

Based on your dim view of life, you are the perfect ezample on how liberalsim can ruin your life; and make you a whiner when you fail to achieve your goals

Sitarro
08-28-2008, 05:46 PM
Maybe where you are at but not here.

You live in the most liberally controlled state in the union along with the city controlled by a mayor that makes Ray Nagin seem conservative, how could it not be perfect there. I can't believe they even charge you to go see a movie, why aren't they free? Certainly you aren't paying taxes and I would guess you have farmers with horse drawn carts full of veggies and fruit to give out to all of their comrades. Free housing, free public transportation, what more could you want? You live in Utopia.

actsnoblemartin
08-28-2008, 05:54 PM
Maybe where you are at but not here.

you think only conservatives are rich & greedy :laugh2:

look at any democratic congressman or woman, pelosi, reed, obama, any of them

yeah, their really poor, or not greedy

give me a break april15, the partisan koolaid is clouding your judgment

red states rule
08-28-2008, 05:58 PM
you think only conservatives are rich & greedy :laugh2:

look at any democratic congressman or woman, pelosi, reed, obama, any of them

yeah, their really poor, or not greedy

give me a break april15, the partisan koolaid is clouding your judgment

Speaking of rich liberals - I bet Bill and Hillary loved the Bush tax cuts. Thanks to those tax cuts, Hillary was able to loan her campaign over $5 million they may have paid in additional taxes

Libs rant against the Bush tax cuts, but how many sent the money back to the government?

I bet most of them kept the money

AFbombloader
08-28-2008, 06:07 PM
There are no redlobsters here or walmarts. I can't see why people buy computer games when they are as i'm told nothing like real life.



FYI::poke:

Red Lobsters in the San Fransisco Bay area: 2

1210 EL CAMINO REAL
SAN BRUNO CA 94066
(650) 583-3244

1180 ADMIRAL CALLAGHAN LN
VALLEJO CA 94591
(707) 644-0167


Wal-Marts in the San Fransisco Bay Area: 18

Wal-Mart Store #5457
8400 Edgewater Drive
Oakland (S), CA 94621
(510) 430-9606 12.28 miles


2.Wal-Mart Store #2648
1919 Davis Street
San Leandro, CA 94577
(510) 569-0200 13.79 miles

3.Wal-Mart Store #3455
1400 Hilltop Mall Road
Richmond, CA 94806
(510) 669-1342 15.01 miles

4.Wal-Mart Store #2031
30600 Dyer Street
Union City, CA 94587
(510) 475-5915 22.55 miles

5.Wal-Mart Store #3493
1021 Arnold Dr
Martinez, CA 94553
(925) 313-5716 22.66 miles

6.Wal-Mart Store #2161
4501 Rosewood Drive
Pleasanton, CA 94588
(925) 734-8744 29.55 miles

7.Wal-Mart Store #5426
40580 Albrae Street
Fremont (W), CA 94538
(510) 440-8060 29.57 miles

8.Wal-Mart Supercenter Store #1651
7011 Main Street
American Canyon, CA 94503
(707) 557-4393 29.67 miles

9.Wal-Mart Store #2280
600 Showers Drive
Mountain View, CA 94040
(650) 917-0796 30.91 miles

10.Wal-Mart Store #2989
44009 Osgood Road
Fremont, CA 94539
(510) 651-3301 31.79 miles

11.Wal-Mart Store #1615
2203 Loveridge Road
Pittsburg, CA 94565
(925) 427-2022 34.12 miles

12.Wal-Mart Store #1972
2700 Las Positas Road
Livermore, CA 94550
(925) 455-0215 35.95 miles

13.Wal-Mart Store #2119
301 Ranch Drive
Milpitas, CA 95035
(408) 934-0304 36.16 miles

14.Wal-Mart Store #2048
300 Chadbourne Road
Fairfield, CA 94534
(707) 428-4792 37.47 miles

15.Wal-Mart Store #2925
681 Lincoln Avenue
Napa, CA 94559
(707) 224-8797 37.66 miles

16.Wal-Mart Store #2697
4893 Lone Tree Way
Antioch, CA 94509
(925) 755-0900 38.13 miles

17.Wal-Mart Store #1755
4625 Redwood Drive
Rohnert Park, CA 94928
(707) 586-3717 42.98 miles

18.Wal-Mart Store #5435
777 Story Road
San Jose (C), CA 95122
(408) 885-1142 43.46 miles

Justr incase you want to go to dinner and do a little shopping you now have the options RSR listed.

Your welcome!:cheers2:

AF:salute:

red states rule
08-28-2008, 06:21 PM
Looks like April needs to get out more - must be Republicans fault he is a shut in

Trigg
08-28-2008, 06:30 PM
FYI::poke:

Red Lobsters in the San Fransisco Bay area: 2

1210 EL CAMINO REAL
SAN BRUNO CA 94066
(650) 583-3244

1180 ADMIRAL CALLAGHAN LN
VALLEJO CA 94591
(707) 644-0167


Wal-Marts in the San Fransisco Bay Area: 18

Wal-Mart Store #5457
8400 Edgewater Drive
Oakland (S), CA 94621
(510) 430-9606 12.28 miles


2.Wal-Mart Store #2648
1919 Davis Street
San Leandro, CA 94577
(510) 569-0200 13.79 miles

3.Wal-Mart Store #3455
1400 Hilltop Mall Road
Richmond, CA 94806
(510) 669-1342 15.01 miles

4.Wal-Mart Store #2031
30600 Dyer Street
Union City, CA 94587
(510) 475-5915 22.55 miles

5.Wal-Mart Store #3493
1021 Arnold Dr
Martinez, CA 94553
(925) 313-5716 22.66 miles

6.Wal-Mart Store #2161
4501 Rosewood Drive
Pleasanton, CA 94588
(925) 734-8744 29.55 miles

7.Wal-Mart Store #5426
40580 Albrae Street
Fremont (W), CA 94538
(510) 440-8060 29.57 miles

8.Wal-Mart Supercenter Store #1651
7011 Main Street
American Canyon, CA 94503
(707) 557-4393 29.67 miles

9.Wal-Mart Store #2280
600 Showers Drive
Mountain View, CA 94040
(650) 917-0796 30.91 miles

10.Wal-Mart Store #2989
44009 Osgood Road
Fremont, CA 94539
(510) 651-3301 31.79 miles

11.Wal-Mart Store #1615
2203 Loveridge Road
Pittsburg, CA 94565
(925) 427-2022 34.12 miles

12.Wal-Mart Store #1972
2700 Las Positas Road
Livermore, CA 94550
(925) 455-0215 35.95 miles

13.Wal-Mart Store #2119
301 Ranch Drive
Milpitas, CA 95035
(408) 934-0304 36.16 miles

14.Wal-Mart Store #2048
300 Chadbourne Road
Fairfield, CA 94534
(707) 428-4792 37.47 miles

15.Wal-Mart Store #2925
681 Lincoln Avenue
Napa, CA 94559
(707) 224-8797 37.66 miles

16.Wal-Mart Store #2697
4893 Lone Tree Way
Antioch, CA 94509
(925) 755-0900 38.13 miles

17.Wal-Mart Store #1755
4625 Redwood Drive
Rohnert Park, CA 94928
(707) 586-3717 42.98 miles

18.Wal-Mart Store #5435
777 Story Road
San Jose (C), CA 95122
(408) 885-1142 43.46 miles

Justr incase you want to go to dinner and do a little shopping you now have the options RSR listed.

Your welcome!:cheers2:

AF:salute:

I tried to rep you, but I have to spread it around.

You saved me the time of looking up the wal-marts. :clap::clap: Somehow I just knew there had to be one or two in the area. :laugh2::laugh2:

red states rule
08-28-2008, 06:31 PM
and leave it to ABC to keep pushing the myth America is in recession

We're Not In Recession? ABC Finds It Hard to Swallow
By Tim Graham (Bio | Archive)
August 28, 2008 - 14:55 ET

Facts are stubborn things, but not as stubborn as ABC in describing our current economy as in "recession." The day before the government revised second quarter economic growth up to 3.3 percent, Good Morning America's food segment on Wednesday morning carried the graphic "Recession Recipes" as co-host Robin Roberts and weatherman Sam Champion chewed on chuck with chef Sara Moulton. (The R word was never used by the noshing news staff, just on screen.)

Scott Whitlock noted ABC's insistent "Recession Rescue" coverage earlier in our non-recession.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2008/08/28/were-not-recession-abc-finds-it-hard-swallow

Trigg
08-28-2008, 06:34 PM
Maybe where you are at but not here.

Here is a good websight for ya. After a high of 4.50 a gallon, 3.80 is a good deal.

http://www.sanfrangasprices.com/

What's that?




You meant to say gas prices are going down in your area????

actsnoblemartin
08-28-2008, 06:35 PM
Looks like April needs to get out more - must be Republicans fault he is a shut in

:coffee:

April15
08-28-2008, 07:33 PM
Here is a good websight for ya. After a high of 4.50 a gallon, 3.80 is a good deal.

http://www.sanfrangasprices.com/

What's that?




You meant to say gas prices are going down in your area????4.50 for diesel is about the best locally.

red states rule
08-28-2008, 07:36 PM
4.50 for diesel is about the best locally.

CA has one of the highest gas taxes in the nation

Where I live gas is down about 60 cents a gallon

April15
08-28-2008, 07:37 PM
FYI::poke:

Red Lobsters in the San Fransisco Bay area: 2

1210 EL CAMINO REAL
SAN BRUNO CA 94066
(650) 583-3244

1180 ADMIRAL CALLAGHAN LN
VALLEJO CA 94591
(707) 644-0167


Wal-Marts in the San Fransisco Bay Area: 18

Wal-Mart Store #5457
8400 Edgewater Drive
Oakland (S), CA 94621
(510) 430-9606 12.28 miles


2.Wal-Mart Store #2648
1919 Davis Street
San Leandro, CA 94577
(510) 569-0200 13.79 miles

3.Wal-Mart Store #3455
1400 Hilltop Mall Road
Richmond, CA 94806
(510) 669-1342 15.01 miles

4.Wal-Mart Store #2031
30600 Dyer Street
Union City, CA 94587
(510) 475-5915 22.55 miles

5.Wal-Mart Store #3493
1021 Arnold Dr
Martinez, CA 94553
(925) 313-5716 22.66 miles

6.Wal-Mart Store #2161
4501 Rosewood Drive
Pleasanton, CA 94588
(925) 734-8744 29.55 miles

7.Wal-Mart Store #5426
40580 Albrae Street
Fremont (W), CA 94538
(510) 440-8060 29.57 miles

8.Wal-Mart Supercenter Store #1651
7011 Main Street
American Canyon, CA 94503
(707) 557-4393 29.67 miles

9.Wal-Mart Store #2280
600 Showers Drive
Mountain View, CA 94040
(650) 917-0796 30.91 miles

10.Wal-Mart Store #2989
44009 Osgood Road
Fremont, CA 94539
(510) 651-3301 31.79 miles

11.Wal-Mart Store #1615
2203 Loveridge Road
Pittsburg, CA 94565
(925) 427-2022 34.12 miles

12.Wal-Mart Store #1972
2700 Las Positas Road
Livermore, CA 94550
(925) 455-0215 35.95 miles

13.Wal-Mart Store #2119
301 Ranch Drive
Milpitas, CA 95035
(408) 934-0304 36.16 miles

14.Wal-Mart Store #2048
300 Chadbourne Road
Fairfield, CA 94534
(707) 428-4792 37.47 miles

15.Wal-Mart Store #2925
681 Lincoln Avenue
Napa, CA 94559
(707) 224-8797 37.66 miles

16.Wal-Mart Store #2697
4893 Lone Tree Way
Antioch, CA 94509
(925) 755-0900 38.13 miles

17.Wal-Mart Store #1755
4625 Redwood Drive
Rohnert Park, CA 94928
(707) 586-3717 42.98 miles

18.Wal-Mart Store #5435
777 Story Road
San Jose (C), CA 95122
(408) 885-1142 43.46 miles

Justr incase you want to go to dinner and do a little shopping you now have the options RSR listed.

Your welcome!:cheers2:

AF:salute:

It is kind of you to do the research for me. Now all I need is a reason to buy. None of those walmarts are near me.

April15
08-28-2008, 07:38 PM
You live in the most liberally controlled state in the union along with the city controlled by a mayor that makes Ray Nagin seem conservative, how could it not be perfect there. I can't believe they even charge you to go see a movie, why aren't they free? Certainly you aren't paying taxes and I would guess you have farmers with horse drawn carts full of veggies and fruit to give out to all of their comrades. Free housing, free public transportation, what more could you want? You live in Utopia.Almost.

red states rule
08-28-2008, 07:40 PM
It is kind of you to do the research for me. Now all I need is a reason to buy. None of those walmarts are near me.

Why would Wal mart want to build in San Francisco? Most of the town is occupied with moonbat libs who believe Wal Mart chains their employes to their work stations, and the taxes are at insane levels

April15
08-28-2008, 07:40 PM
Looks like April needs to get out more - must be Republicans fault he is a shut in
I would go out more but everywhere ya go republicans. UGH! I wish they would go back home to were they came from.

red states rule
08-28-2008, 07:42 PM
I would go out more but everywhere ya go republicans. UGH! I wish they would go back home to were they came from.

Republicans in San Francisco?

We are home April. We live in America. You guys live in Fantasyland

April15
08-28-2008, 07:48 PM
Republicans in San Francisco?

We are home April. We live in America. You guys live in FantasylandI was here first! Your kind will just eliminate the libs like you did the native American Indians. Won't be happy until you have ALL the power.

red states rule
08-28-2008, 07:52 PM
I was here first! Your kind will just eliminate the libs like you did the native American Indians. Won't be happy until you have ALL the power.

I do not remember Republicans whining during the 40 years libs ran Congress. BTW, most US Presidents were Dems as America was being settled. They were in power as the native American Indians were kicked off their land

April15
08-28-2008, 08:01 PM
I do not remember Republicans whining during the 40 years libs ran Congress. BTW, most US Presidents were Dems as America was being settled. They were in power as the native American Indians were kicked off their landNow you know that the dems and pubs have changed over the years. Dems used to be the EVIL ones, now it is the repubs.

red states rule
08-28-2008, 08:02 PM
Now you know that the dems and pubs have changed over the years. Dems used to be the EVIL ones, now it is the repubs.

Libs consider Republicans evil when we win elections since libs like you consider it a birthright for Dems to be in power

AFbombloader
08-28-2008, 08:06 PM
It is kind of you to do the research for me. Now all I need is a reason to buy. None of those walmarts are near me.

No prob! According to your info you are in the SF Bay area, they are near there. I don't shop at Wal-Mart if I can avoid it, but that is neither here nor there, you said there were none.

As to all the Republicans going home, you don want all of us who left CA to come back home do you?:poke: Don't worry, we don't want to go back anyway.

AF:salute:

April15
08-28-2008, 08:10 PM
No prob! According to your info you are in the SF Bay area, they are near there. I don't shop at Wal-Mart if I can avoid it, but that is neither here nor there, you said there were none.

As to all the Republicans going home, you don want all of us who left CA to come back home do you?:poke: Don't worry, we don't want to go back anyway.

AF:salute:12 miles is too far to go for walmart. I consider that way outside my area. Costco is just a mile away. I don't go there either. I simply have no need for possessions just food and the local store is fine. Thank you again for going out of your way to help me.

red states rule
08-28-2008, 08:17 PM
So typical of the liberal media. I wonder how much coverage the nets would have provided if the GDP was a negative number?


CBS and NBC Spike Big GDP Jump, ABC Gives It 13 Seconds
By Brent Baker (Bio | Archive)
August 28, 2008 - 20:39 ET

The second quarter Gross Domestic Product (GDP) was revised upward Thursday by the Commerce Department from the initially estimated 1.9 percent to a robust 3.3 percent, but neither the CBS Evening News nor NBC Nightly News mentioned the good news, while on ABC's World News anchor Charles Gibson, at Invesco Field, allocated 13 seconds to what he considered “surprisingly strong” economic news:

Other news, a surprisingly strong reading on the economy. The Gross Domestic Product grew at a rate of 3.3 percent in the second quarter, helped by those government stimulus checks and a jump in exports because the dollar is so weak.

NBC News veteran Tom Brokaw, however, was still presuming economic disaster hours after the new GDP number was released in the morning. Just past 2 PM MDT/4PM EDT on MSNBC, Brokaw asserted from Denver:

Beyond this arena, and this city, the American people are facing some of the greatest problems that they have faced, certainly in our lifetimes. Financial crisis, greatest since the Depression; energy crisis; two wars in two different countries; the Russian bear is crashing around in the woods again.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/08/28/cbs-nbc-spike-big-gdp-jump-abc-gives-it-13-seconds

AFbombloader
08-28-2008, 08:25 PM
12 miles is too far to go for walmart. I consider that way outside my area. Costco is just a mile away. I don't go there either. I simply have no need for possessions just food and the local store is fine. Thank you again for going out of your way to help me.

I consider 12 miles too far to go to Wally World too. I wish I had a Costco near me, I actually prefer it to Sam's Club (more Wal-Mart). And I didn't go out of my way, I was just sitting there drinking my coffee before I went to work. You guys are getting settled in for the night when I an getting up for work.

AF:salute:

avatar4321
08-28-2008, 08:35 PM
Perhaps you are wealthy and are not affected by the economic realities of rising prices and stagnant pay. The choice of not going to the movies so you have gas money to get to work. And lets not forget the historic number of unsold houses.

Get netflix. Unlimited movies a month for like 5-15 dollars depending on the plan. Much nicer than the movies.

avatar4321
08-28-2008, 08:39 PM
Now you know that the dems and pubs have changed over the years. Dems used to be the EVIL ones, now it is the repubs.

Democrats seem as evil as usual. not seeing how that's changed at all.