obama's speech....

[manu1959]

lots of programs ...... 5% will get to pay for the other 95%....

lots of tough hawkish rehtoric .... he will wage war like clinton did ......

pity no coke in the drinking fountain .......

[manu1959]

damn.....that dude can spin a yarn.....he gives slick willy a real run for his money......

tell me this......why would corporate america or any family making over 100k want this man in charge......

[retiredman]

damn.....that dude can spin a yarn.....he gives slick willy a real run for his money......

tell me this......why would corporate america or any family making over 100k want this man in charge......

because...if they were really patriotic Americans, they would not be so focused on their own self interest and fail to see that America as a whole would be better off with him in charge.

[Abbey Marie]

damn.....that dude can spin a yarn.....he gives slick willy a real run for his money......

tell me this......why would corporate america or any family making over 100k want this man in charge......

Because he's a well-spoken, clean, black man?

[retiredman]

Because he's a well-spoken, clean, black man?


it's funny. tonight I did not notice his color....obviously you did.

[AFbombloader]

because...if they were really patriotic Americans, they would not be so focused on their own self interest and fail to see that America as a whole would be better off with him in charge.

How? Just how would we be better if he was in office? Because he is going to nationalize health care? Look at the British and tell me it is better. Because he wants to nationalize education now? Right! He wants to tax the top 5% to ruin! How many other programs that he wants to enact will "improve" us? None if you ask me. And I am a patriotic American, so your first statement does not apply.

AF:salute:

[No1tovote4]

He simply brought a litany of old ideas then said they were change. I found the speech short, both in time and in bringing the crowd into the discussion.

I expected a masterful crowd handler to bring them to a crescendo where they would scream for a good half-hour. Instead, I got a regular convention speech from a democrat. A list of things they have talked about for the past 20 years.

I was disappointed. I was looking to learn some tricks on how to deliver a truly time-bending speech and all I got was another convention speech.

[retiredman]

How? Just how would we be better if he was in office? Because he is going to nationalize health care? Look at the British and tell me it is better. Because he wants to nationalize education now? Right! He wants to tax the top 5% to ruin! How many other programs that he wants to enact will "improve" us? None if you ask me. And I am a patriotic American, so your first statement does not apply.

AF:salute:


as patriotic americans, we can agree to disagree. my point is that patriotic americans do not merely look at how a particular candidate will impact THEIR lives, but how they will impact the country as a whole. And, by the way, he has never advocated imstituting the British model of health care and he has never advocated nationalizing education... nice inaccurate demonization.

[manu1959]

because...if they were really patriotic Americans, they would not be so focused on their own self interest and fail to see that America as a whole would be better off with him in charge.

so they are racist and unpatiotic and as the top 5% of tax payers that pay 20% of the tax they get to pay the remaing 80% so the other 95% can have a tax break and be better off......

why do you want to take their realization of the american dream away from them.....

they worked hard, they sacrificed....they did everything that obama siad they should do and now you want to take it from them because the other 95% couldn't do it.....

[retiredman]

He simply brought a litany of old ideas then said they were change. I found the speech short, both in time and in bringing the crowd into the discussion.

I expected a masterful crowd handler to bring them to a crescendo where they would scream for a good half-hour. Instead, I got a regular convention speech from a democrat. A list of things they have talked about for the past 20 years.

I was disappointed. I was looking to learn some tricks on how to deliver a truly time-bending speech and all I got was another convention speech.

I am sure you are aware that others have a different opinion....

but given your bias, that is not unexpected.

[manu1959]

Because he's a well-spoken, clean, black man?

he isn't black.....

[retiredman]

he isn't black.....

Plessy wasn't either;)

[Sitarro]

damn.....that dude can spin a yarn.....he gives slick willy a real run for his money......

tell me this......why would corporate america or any family making over 100k want this man in charge......

Perfect speech for the audience he was speaking to, the idiots that know nothing about the reality of life in this world and expect government to take care of them. He checked off the list of liberal talking points one by one and then attacked John McCain.......... John McCain that had the class to congratulate him on his(and the media's) accomplishment. This limousine,757 liberal hypocrite and his po' boy show.

I don't see a reason why any corporation would want to stay in this country if this lying naive prick gets his way. What would keep them from going to a country that actually appreciates what they bring and then just sell their products to the dumb ass Americans that stay.

It's amazing what kind of show millions of dollars can put on, a lot of style and absolutely no substance. He started his speech with lies and continued with nothing but hollow bullshit that doesn't come close to reality.

FUCK YOU Barry Osama!

[retiredman]

hey...shit hole... I don't think Obama ever planned on getting your vote anyway!:laugh2:

[Sitarro]

it's funny. tonight I did not notice his color....obviously you did.

Probably because of the opening film that repeatedly showed his white mother and her parents that raised his sorry ass just so he could disown them and make his silly claims of being a black man. The Democrats didn't nominate a black man for President, they know they didn't. Clarence Thomas is an American-Black man, Osama is an American-African, big difference.

[retiredman]

Probably because of the opening film that repeatedly showed his white mother and her parents that raised his sorry ass just so he could disown them and make his silly claims of being a black man. The Democrats didn't nominate a black man for President, they know they didn't. Clarence Thomas is an American-Black man, Osama is an American-African, big difference.


Clarence Thomas is a porno junkie moron....Obama is smart as a whip, regardless of his color

[No1tovote4]

I am sure you are aware that others have a different opinion....

but given your bias, that is not unexpected.
I am sure many people think he did a good job. He did.

I was just looking forward to a truly impelling speech, what I got was a good but general convention speech.

I'm disappointed because I watch speeches to learn how to deliver my own better. I learned from Bill's the other night, tonight I learned almost nothing.

[manu1959]

Plessy wasn't either;)

doesn't make barak black.....

[retiredman]

doesn't make barak black.....

that's certainly your opinion, and I would never suggest you did not have the right to hold it.

[manu1959]

that's certainly your opinion, and I would never suggest you did not have the right to hold it.


sorry but he isn't black.....it isn't an opinion it is a genetic fact.....

[retiredman]

sorry but he isn't black.....it isn't an opinion it is a genetic fact.....


you can call your opinion a fact, but it does not make it such. sorry.

[manu1959]

you can call your opinion a fact, but it does not make it such. sorry.

his father is black and his mother is white.....unless you can prove his mother has black ancestors or his father has white ancestors it is a tie and he is half black and half white.....so he is neither white nor black......so for either "race" to lay claim to him would be a lie.....

[Sitarro]

I will make you a promise AssfromMaine....... if somehow that prick does figure out a way to steal his way into the Presidency, I will be just as fair to him as you slimy assed Democrats have been to our President for the last 8 years. This prick will be watched and criticized for every lousy thing he and that balding "hair club for men" dick head buddy does. You and your merry band of fags will not get away with anything, you can be sure of that.

[manu1959]

I will make you a promise AssfromMaine....... if somehow that prick does figure out a way to steal his way into the Presidency, I will be just as fair to him as you slimy assed Democrats have been to our President for the last 8 years. This prick will be watched and criticized for every lousy thing he and that balding "hair club for men" dick head buddy does. You and your merry band of fags will not get away with anything, you can be sure of that.

you say that now.....but once he quadruples your tax burden to pay for the tax cuts for the other 95% you won't be able to afford internet servcies.....

[Yurt]

Clarence Thomas is a porno junkie moron....Obama is smart as a whip, regardless of his color

:link:

[Sitarro]

you say that now.....but once he quadruples your tax burden to pay for the tax cuts for the other 95% you won't be able to afford internet servcies.....

Good point, France is looking pretty good to me now.:laugh2:

[manu1959]

:link:

the liar won't give links....his opinions are facts....just ask him....

[retiredman]

Good point, France is looking pretty good to me now.:laugh2:

don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out, monsieur!

[manu1959]

Good point, France is looking pretty good to me now.:laugh2:

dude you may want to chack into the cost of petrol in france, their tax rate and nationalistic attitude.......

you may be btter off just not working for 8 years under obama and living off sorros, kennedy, kerry, feinstine nad edwards 134% tax bracket increase.....

[Sitarro]

don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out, monsieur!

Why would you care anyway, aren't you heading south to the slimy shitland of refried beans? At least I would be returning to my ancestral roots where the women are gorgeous, they don't speak a guttural language, the food is fit to eat and they appreciate great art........ mostly they have nude beaches and beautiful women populating them.

[manu1959]

Why would you care anyway, aren't you heading south to the slimy shitland of refried beans? At least I would be returning to my ancestral roots where the women are gorgeous, they don't speak a guttural language, the food is fit to eat and they appreciate great art........ mostly they have nude beaches and beautiful women populating them.

my wife is french basque and i could not agree with you more....

[Sitarro]

dude you may want to chack into the cost of petrol in france, their tax rate and nationalistic attitude.......

you may be btter off just not working for 8 years under obama and living off sorros, kennedy, kerry, feinstine nad edwards 134% tax bracket increase.....

I have friends there that have money and big houses, maybe just an extended vacation for 4 years or until the American people wise up and throw the asshole out, tarred and feathered.:laugh2:

[Sitarro]

my wife is french basque and i could not agree with you more....

My friends are from Biarritz, French Basque all the way. Good for you, I'm sure she is stunning and speaks like a poet with an accent that could melt any man.

[theHawk]

You know Rush made a great case today tearing up yesterday's Biden speech. Biden made the case that he was raised with conservative values, you know, pick yourself up, stand up and punch bullys no matter what anyone else thinks. Gee, that sounds exactly like what the Dims have been accusing Bush of being like in world politics. The morons in the audience didn't even realize they were applauding violence.


As for Obama, it was quite comical to see him plea with McCain to "not question patriotism". Sounds like Obama is trying to get McCain not to question him on his judgement on his relationship with anti-american terrorist Ayers.

[AFbombloader]

as patriotic americans, we can agree to disagree. my point is that patriotic americans do not merely look at how a particular candidate will impact THEIR lives, but how they will impact the country as a whole. And, by the way, he has never advocated imstituting the British model of health care and he has never advocated nationalizing education... nice inaccurate demonization.

Barack Obama has clear and audacious intentions concerning public education in America.


On November 20, 2007, in a speech entitled "Our Kids, Our Future," he said,

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/obama_and_the_independent_scho.html

"A truly historic commitment to education -- a real commitment -- will require new resources and new reforms. It will require a willingness to break free from the same debates that Washington has been engaged in for decades - Democrat versus Republican; vouchers versus the status quo; more money versus more accountability. And most of all, it will take a President who is honest about the challenges we face -- who doesn't just tell everyone what they want to hear, but what they need to hear.

I am running to be that President. And that's why I'm proposing a comprehensive plan to give every American child the chance to receive the best education America has to offer - from the moment they're born to the day they graduate college. As President, I will put the full resources of the federal government behind this plan. But to make it a reality, I will also ask more of teachers and principals; parents and students; schools and communities."

I used the British example of how the system doesn't work as well as the one we have in place. But he does want a nationalized care plan.

http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080328134800.aspx

Obama’s other two priorities were domestic. He told the audience his administration would push to make sure every American should have health insurance, even if it means taxpayer money.



“Number two, I want to put forward legislation that would give every American health care,” Obama said.



Obama said that since premiums are high, people aren’t going to the doctor and that was costing more in the long-run.



“If you don’t have health care, we’ll set up a plan similar to the one I have as a member of Congress,” Obama said, “You can buy into it, we’ll subsidize it if you can’t afford it and you won’t be excluded for preexisting conditions. The point is everybody should have the kind of health care that over the long-term will save us cost because if you’re getting regular check-ups, you’re staying healthier and we’re reducing obesity and heart disease and those kinds of things, then the bill will be lower over the long-term. So that’s the second thing.”



He didn’t address the estimated cost of such a proposal.



AF:salute:

[manu1959]

this just in from msnbc.......obama can make see pople see posibilites.....

we can all see the possibilites obama lays out......they are all wonderful....

free world class education

higher pay for teachers

free world class health care

a better economy

more jobs

cheaper housing

cheaper food

cheaper gas

clean energy

strong defense

wining the war against those that attacked us

we have two simple questions..... how.....and how ill you pay for it.....

i have heard this before......how.....well we will figure it out.....and the rich will pay for it......

[Yurt]

the liar won't give links....his opinions are facts....just ask him....

true

[manu1959]

anyway.....back to bob's speech.....

i am pretty impressed that someone other than the typical odle school white guy can get to the dance.......

the issue this country faces is revenue vs expenditures.....

to be honest neither will address the issue.....

[avatar4321]

Clarence Thomas is a porno junkie moron....Obama is smart as a whip, regardless of his color

57 states. Nuff said.

[manu1959]

57 states. Nuff said.

by some counts there are 57 muslim states.....nuff said....

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=57+muslim+states&aq=f&oq=

[Kathianne]

Plessy wasn't either;)

Interesting, you want to return to the 'one drop of blood' parameters. :smoke:

[red states rule]

damn.....that dude can spin a yarn.....he gives slick willy a real run for his money......

tell me this......why would corporate america or any family making over 100k want this man in charge......

People who make less then $100,000 will be paying more. Since Obama wants to raise the capital gains tax, and the dividend tax; even retired couples will be paying more in taxes

I remember reading where retired couples earning $40,000/yr will pay about $1200/yr more in taxes

[red states rule]

because...if they were really patriotic Americans, they would not be so focused on their own self interest and fail to see that America as a whole would be better off with him in charge.

How much more in taxes do you want the producers to pay? Tax revenues are at record levels, and the top 1% are paying 40% of the federal incomes taxes

When is enough enough for you libs?

[red states rule]

You know Rush made a great case today tearing up yesterday's Biden speech. Biden made the case that he was raised with conservative values, you know, pick yourself up, stand up and punch bullys no matter what anyone else thinks. Gee, that sounds exactly like what the Dims have been accusing Bush of being like in world politics. The morons in the audience didn't even realize they were applauding violence.


As for Obama, it was quite comical to see him plea with McCain to "not question patriotism". Sounds like Obama is trying to get McCain not to question him on his judgement on his relationship with anti-american terrorist Ayers.

If you don't have a record to run on like Obama, then you attack your opponent as someone voters should run away from.

Obama is not bringing change - he is another tax and spend big government liberal who demands more of your money to pay for his dreams and handouts

[Abbey Marie]

it's funny. tonight I did not notice his color....obviously you did.

Nice try at your tired old accusations of racism, but it's your veep candidate who noticed. I'm just quoting him.

[Immanuel]

because...if they were really patriotic Americans, they would not be so focused on their own self interest and fail to see that America as a whole would be better off with him in charge.


How? Just how would we be better if he was in office? Because he is going to nationalize health care? Look at the British and tell me it is better. Because he wants to nationalize education now? Right! He wants to tax the top 5% to ruin! How many other programs that he wants to enact will "improve" us? None if you ask me. And I am a patriotic American, so your first statement does not apply.

AF:salute:


as patriotic americans, we can agree to disagree. my point is that patriotic americans do not merely look at how a particular candidate will impact THEIR lives, but how they will impact the country as a whole. And, by the way, he has never advocated imstituting the British model of health care and he has never advocated nationalizing education... nice inaccurate demonization.

I am sorry, but as a patriotic American, I can't let you dodge this question.

Please tell me how America will be better off if Barack Obama beats John McCain in November. I'd really like to know.

Immie

PS A McCain Presidency is going to suck. That I do know, but, that will not be an acceptable answer from you. I want valid reasons as to how America will be better off under Barack Obama.

[red states rule]

I am sorry, but as a patriotic American, I can't let you dodge this question.

Please tell me how America will be better off if Barack Obama beats John McCain in November. I'd really like to know.

Immie

PS A McCain Presidency is going to suck. That I do know, but, that will not be an acceptable answer from you. I want valid reasons as to how America will be better off under Barack Obama.

The reporters who are to report the news seemed to love his speech. Is it any wonder why the coverage is so glowing and flattering to the messiah?


Media Cheers Obama Speech
@ 11:00 pm by Andy Barr
Several members of the media were seen cheering and clapping for Barack Obama as the Illinois senator accepted the Democratic nomination Thursday.

Standing on the periphery of the football field serving as the Democratic convention floor, dozens of men and women wearing green media floor passes chanted along with the crowd.

Two members of the foreign press exchanged opportunities to take each other's picture while wearing an Obama hat and waving a flag.

Several others nearby screamed "woo" during some of Obama's biggest applause lines.

http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/08/28/media-cheers-obama-speech/

[PostmodernProphet]

I am curious what our resident liberals think about his quoting scripture and saying God Bless America at the end of his speech....and the fact that it was followed by a closing prayer.....are they worried about "neo-libs" taking over the Democratic Party?......

[retiredman]

I am sorry, but as a patriotic American, I can't let you dodge this question.

Please tell me how America will be better off if Barack Obama beats John McCain in November. I'd really like to know.

Immie

PS A McCain Presidency is going to suck. That I do know, but, that will not be an acceptable answer from you. I want valid reasons as to how America will be better off under Barack Obama.

Immie. I happen to believe that if we implemented every plank of the democratic party platform, that America would be better off. I am sure that patriotic republicans think the same thing about their party's platform. I respectfully disagree with them.

[red states rule]

Immie. I happen to believe that if we implemented every plank of the democratic party platform, that America would be better off. I am sure that patriotic republicans think the same thing about their party's platform. I respectfully disagree with them.

How much more in taxes do you want the producers to pay? Tax revenues are at record levels, and the top 1% are paying 40% of the federal incomes taxes

When is enough enough for you libs?

So far all I hear is crickets chirping

[No1tovote4]

What? There was a speech? Did you hear that Sarah Palin will be the first VPILF?

[Immanuel]

Immie. I happen to believe that if we implemented every plank of the democratic party platform, that America would be better off. I am sure that patriotic republicans think the same thing about their party's platform. I respectfully disagree with them.

Does it suffice for me to tell you that I respectfully disagree with both them and you?

Implementing every plank of either party would be a major disaster for this country. What would be best would be for both sides to sit down over each plank, grab some coffee and work towards a middle ground. Unfortunately, that will not happen, they would not want to appear to be friendly with the enemy now, would they?

Immie

[red states rule]

Does it suffice for me to tell you that I respectfully disagree with both them and you?

Implementing every plank of either party would be a major disaster for this country. What would be best would be for both sides to sit down over each plank, grab some coffee and work towards a middle ground. Unfortunately, that will not happen, they would not want to appear to be friendly with the enemy now, would they?

Immie

MFM is all for higher taxes, bigger government, more handouts, and appeasemnt to terrorists

He plans to flee to Mexico so he can escape the impact of liberalsim and the economic downturn it will bring to America

[Immanuel]

MFM is all for higher taxes, bigger government, more handouts, and appeasemnt to terrorists



The Republican Party is all for higher taxes, bigger government and the stiffling of civil rights in the name of National Security.

Which is worse?

Immie

[No1tovote4]

The Republican Party is all for higher taxes, bigger government and the stiffling of civil rights in the name of National Security.

Which is worse?

Immie
Please, Obama talks of the need of a civilian national security force as powerful as the military. Imagine the FBI with tanks and submarines.

[red states rule]

The Republican Party is all for higher taxes, bigger government and the stiffling of civil rights in the name of National Security.

Which is worse?

Immie

Conservatives are for lower taxes, and smaller government

Once again, what rights have been stiffled? If you are a terrorist, I am happy to stiffle your "rights"

[manu1959]

The Republican Party is all for higher taxes, bigger government and the stiffling of civil rights in the name of National Security.

Which is worse?

Immie

really?....maybe you can help me out here i guess i haven't been paying attention.....

which bill did the gop vote in for higher taxes .....

which govermental agencies did the gop create....

what civil right has been taken from you....

[No1tovote4]

really?....maybe you can help me out here i guess i haven't been paying attention.....

which bill did the gop vote in for higher taxes .....

which govermental agencies did the gop create....

what civil right has been taken from you....
Homeland Security, but that really is just putting a bunch of guys under a different name rather than a wholesale creation of a new agency.

[Immanuel]

really?....maybe you can help me out here i guess i haven't been paying attention.....

which bill did the gop vote in for higher taxes .....

which govermental agencies did the gop create....

what civil right has been taken from you....

Government Agency --- Homeland Security

Civil Right taken --- Think (un)Patriot Act and wire-taps for starts.

On the bill, well, my only reply will have to be that I don't see an honest effort by the Republican party to lower taxes or shrink government. I hear plenty of lip service but not a damned bit of solid action.

Immie

[red states rule]

Government Agency --- Homeland Security

Civil Right taken --- Think (un)Patriot Act and wire-taps for starts.

On the bill, well, my only reply will have to be that I don't see an honest effort by the Republican party to lower taxes or shrink government. I hear plenty of lip service but not a damned bit of solid action.

Immie

The FISA bill does not take away your rights.

Unless you are making and taking calls from terrorist countries

[manu1959]

Government Agency --- Homeland Security

Civil Right taken --- Think (un)Patriot Act and wire-taps for starts.

On the bill, well, my only reply will have to be that I don't see an honest effort by the Republican party to lower taxes or shrink government. I hear plenty of lip service but not a damned bit of solid action.

Immie

so you were wrong about taxes....

i seem to recall the dems screaming for homeland security and more of it especially at the ports.....that was a bipartisan creation if anything and a perfectly reasonable response to being attcked.....one has to wonder why it wasn't done 8 years earlier considering us assests had been attacked 1/2 a dozen times by the group that ultimately atacked us on 9/11.....

having a secure phone line is a civil right....really.....where does it say that.....

[Immanuel]

so you were wrong about taxes....

i seem to recall the dems screaming for homeland security and more of it especially at the ports.....that was a bipartisan creation if anything and a perfectly reasonable response to being attcked.....one has to wonder why it wasn't done 8 years earlier considering us assests had been attacked 1/2 a dozen times by the group that ultimately atacked us on 9/11.....

having a secure phone line is a civil right....really.....where does it say that.....

I wasn't wrong. Show me where the Republicans have done anything to reduce the size of the government or taxes. First of all, their own rhetoric was that the tax cuts would stimulate the economy and INCREASE tax revenues. In other words, they ARE for more taxes and BIGGER government.

As for secure phone lines... a good place for you to start might be the 4th Amendment.

Immie

[red states rule]

I wasn't wrong. Show me where the Republicans have done anything to reduce the size of the government or taxes. First of all, their own rhetoric was that the tax cuts would stimulate the economy and INCREASE tax revenues. In other words, they ARE for more taxes and BIGGER government.

Immie

Tax cuts have a history of increasing revenues. People are paying more because they are making more due to an increased economic activity

[Immanuel]

Tax cuts have a history of increasing revenues. People are paying more because they are making more due to an increased economic activity

I won't argue that because I agree with it. But, the Republican Party (at least those in power today) has proven that it is for bigger government rather than lower taxes and smaller government.

In this respect, the Republican Party is no different than the Democratic Party.

Immie

[red states rule]

I won't argue that because I agree with it. But, the Republican Party (at least those in power today) has proven that it is for bigger government rather than lower taxes and smaller government.

In this respect, the Republican Party is no different than the Democratic Party.

Immie


Republcians were fired in 2006 for big spending. I agreed with the vote

Now we have some conservatives speaking up, and I hope they learned their lesson

Dems will rape the shit out of the producers if they get the chance

[Immanuel]

Republcians were fired in 2006 for big spending. I agreed with the vote

Now we have some conservatives speaking up, and I hope they learned their lesson

Dems will rape the shit out of the producers if they get the chance

I'm not so sure that the Republicans have learned their lessons. If they look at how they lost, and who beat them, they might draw the conclusion that they should have pushed for more liberal policies and even bigger government.

Immie

[red states rule]

I'm not so sure that the Republicans have learned their lessons. If they look at how they lost, and who beat them, they might draw the conclusion that they should have pushed for more liberal policies and even bigger government.

Immie

Ms Palin is a great first step to show they have learned

[Immanuel]

Ms Palin is a great first step to show they have learned

Please excuse the rant here, but...

Why do you all put so much faith in these thieves... er, politicians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :salute::laugh2:

Sorry, and thanks for letting me rant.

Immie

[red states rule]

Please excuse the rant here, but...

Why do you all put so much faith in these thieves... er, politicians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :salute::laugh2:

Sorry, and thanks for letting me rant.

Immie

Get it out of your system

Ms Palin is a conservative

[Immanuel]

Get it out of your system

Ms Palin is a conservative

Unfortunately, George W. Bush claimed to be a conservative as well. I suppose he simply forgot to tell us that he was a Neo-con? I pray that Gov. Palin is a true conservative.

Immie

[red states rule]

Unfortunately, George W. Bush claimed to be a conservative as well. I suppose he simply forgot to tell us that he was a Neo-con? I pray that Gov. Palin is a true conservative.

Immie

Get over it. Pres Bush is not running this time around

[No1tovote4]

Unfortunately, George W. Bush claimed to be a conservative as well. I suppose he simply forgot to tell us that he was a Neo-con? I pray that Gov. Palin is a true conservative.

Immie
He didn't have the record of actually creating a smaller government and lowering property taxes 60% for her constituency.

Palin actually is a conservative.

[Immanuel]

Get over it. Pres Bush is not running this time around

No, but his clone is. :D



He didn't have the record of actually creating a smaller government and lowering property taxes 60% for her constituency.

Palin actually is a conservative.

So it seems. Like I said earlier. I like what I see with her, at first glance. I just can't stand McCain.

Immie

[red states rule]

No, but his clone is. :D




So it seems. Like I said earlier. I like what I see with her, at first glance. I just can't stand McCain.

Immie

I am not thrilled with McCain either

But his VP pick was damn good one