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Yurt
09-01-2008, 05:13 PM
5 arrested in protests at GOP convention site

By AMY FORLITI, Associated Press Writer

ST. PAUL, Minn. - Thousands of protesters descended on the city hosting the Republican National Convention Monday, some smashing cars, puncturing tires and throwing bottles in a confrontations with pepper-spray wielding police who arrested at least five people.

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About 200 people from a group called Funk the War noisily staged its own separate march. Wearing black clothes, bandanas and gas masks, some of their members smashed windows of cars and stores. They tipped over newspaper boxes, pulled a big trash bin into the street, bent the rear view mirrors on a bus and flipped heavy stone garbage bins on the sidewalks.

One man who seemed to be the leader of the group carried a yellow flag with the motto "Don't Tread on Me." The group chanted "Whose streets? Our streets!"

link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080901/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_convention_protests)

avatar4321
09-01-2008, 06:04 PM
yeah i saw that on the news and couldnt figure out why anti war protesters were so violent

Gaffer
09-01-2008, 06:19 PM
It's just a small minority of libs. You know, a handful of radicals. They don't have the support of the majority. I'm sure the condemnation will be coming out from the lib posters and lib leaders any time now...looking around expectantly....I'll wait.

Yurt
09-01-2008, 06:23 PM
It's just a small minority of libs. You know, a handful of radicals. They don't have the support of the majority. I'm sure the condemnation will be coming out from the lib posters and lib leaders any time now...looking around expectantly....I'll wait.

...........waits

stephanie
09-01-2008, 06:24 PM
don't hold your breath while you wait..:coffee:

Gaffer
09-01-2008, 06:49 PM
don't hold your breath while you wait..:coffee:

I won't. I'm sure joey steal and grabmasoreass and mfm will be jumping in any moment to condemn this behavior of their fellow libs. Just like moslims every where that spoke out against terrorism and AQ. I just know its coming.

Abbey Marie
09-01-2008, 09:17 PM
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/british/images/vc264.jpg

Nuc
09-01-2008, 09:29 PM
The violent protesters are "anarchists" not "liberals". If you don't know the difference you really shouldn't be posting on a political board. You should be doing some research.

actsnoblemartin
09-01-2008, 09:42 PM
you found my favorite band

:laugh2:


http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/british/images/vc264.jpg

Abbey Marie
09-01-2008, 09:43 PM
you found my favorite band

:laugh2:

The third guy from the left is Buddy Holly, I believe.

actsnoblemartin
09-01-2008, 09:43 PM
i know they were anarchists but have you ever been to an anti war rallly?

I have, by accident and i saw communists, free free (i mean kill kill jews) palestine people, i believe their were socialists, their are many who identify with liberal causes, whether loosely or officially


The violent protesters are "anarchists" not "liberals". If you don't know the difference you really shouldn't be posting on a political board. You should be doing some research.

Abbey Marie
09-01-2008, 09:44 PM
The violent protesters are "anarchists" not "liberals". If you don't know the difference you really shouldn't be posting on a political board. You should be doing some research.

Nuc, serious question for you: if they are so vastly different from libs, why didn't they come out swinging at the Dem convention?

Nuc
09-01-2008, 09:53 PM
Nuc, serious question for you: if they are so vastly different from libs, why didn't they come out swinging at the Dem convention?

Maybe because that group is located in Minnesota, not Colorado?

Anyway I thought McCain is a liberal?

It's silly to compare violent anarchists doing vandalism with normal liberals.

Abbey Marie
09-01-2008, 09:56 PM
Maybe because that group is located in Minnesota, not Colorado?

Anyway I thought McCain is a liberal?

It's silly to compare violent anarchists doing vandalism with normal liberals.

I doubt all 8,000 are from Minnesota. I also doubt that Colorado is bereft of its own anarchists. These people travel from all over to protest. Many are practically professional protestors.

It's the Republican convention; tons of conservatives to protest. McCain isn't all that liberal either.

So....

Nuc
09-01-2008, 09:59 PM
The anti-war protest in general was peaceful. Maybe they protested at the Republican convention because Bush is the guy who started the war they were protesting against? :slap:

The anarchists who are causing violence are a Minnesota group, I believe, unless somebody has other information.

Yurt
09-01-2008, 10:39 PM
The violent protesters are "anarchists" not "liberals". If you don't know the difference you really shouldn't be posting on a political board. You should be doing some research.

The antiwar march was organized by a group called the Coalition to March on the RNC and Stop the War, whose leaders said they hoped for a peaceful, family-friendly event.


those are your anarchists?

and if you don't think libs are not violent, say so. i want to see you say it.

Mr. P
09-01-2008, 10:48 PM
Maybe because that group is located in Minnesota, not Colorado?

Anyway I thought McCain is a liberal?

It's silly to compare violent anarchists doing vandalism with normal liberals.

Ahhhh...there are no NORMAL liberals, they're all Fk'd Up.

Nuc
09-01-2008, 10:50 PM
The antiwar march was organized by a group called the Coalition to March on the RNC and Stop the War, whose leaders said they hoped for a peaceful, family-friendly event.


those are your anarchists?

and if you don't think libs are not violent, say so. i want to see you say it.

You are confusing the peace rally as a whole with the actions of a small group of anarchists who co-opted it for their own purposes. They are two different things. Don't be so dense.

Yurt
09-01-2008, 11:23 PM
You are confusing the peace rally as a whole with the actions of a small group of anarchists who co-opted it for their own purposes. They are two different things. Don't be so dense.

where are the libs protesting against this?

are you the sole voice?

Nuc
09-01-2008, 11:54 PM
where are the libs protesting against this?

are you the sole voice?

I don't think there are many liberals here, not that I am a liberal myself.

LuvRPgrl
09-02-2008, 12:01 AM
You are confusing the peace rally as a whole with the actions of a small group of anarchists who co-opted it for their own purposes. They are two different things. Don't be so dense.

hahhaha, you are scrambling and losing so bad on this one.

Your comment above reminds me of a statement by a Dem Spokesperson today on tv, berating the situation with Gov Palin teen daughter being pregnant, she blasted abstinence programs, saying there is an epidemic of teen pregnancy, and how can the gov be such a hypocrite, and this is proof that those programs dont work, but when asked if the Gov is a proponent of Abstinence, the spokesperson said she doesnt know.
ALso, I looked up the stats and we have ANYTHING BUT a teen pregnancy epidemic. She uses ONE EXAMPLE as "proof" of something??? Course she knew if it was spoken on tv, then its gospel truth, kinda like 10% are gay...

By the way, there are no anarchists. Its impossible to be one,
And they only protest at the RNC because they vote Dem and want the Repubs to lose,

Yurt
09-02-2008, 12:01 AM
I don't think there are many liberals here, not that I am a liberal myself.

gabs, mfm, et al... come on nuc, you know there are plenty of libs here, jim has invited plenty of libs, this board is about politics nuc, come on, you know this.

Nuc
09-02-2008, 12:32 AM
hahhaha, you are scrambling and losing so bad on this one.
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Gimme a break. You seem to be suggesting that the organizers of the peace march instigated the violence or planned it from the outset instead of it being the act of a rogue element. Where's your evidence? That's absurd.

Hate to break the news to you but usually when there are wars there are also people who oppose them. There are even people who oppose all wars. They'll sometimes gather to express their opposition, or do you think they shouldn't be permitted to?

LuvRPgrl
09-02-2008, 01:47 AM
gabs, mfm, et al... come on nuc, you know there are plenty of libs here, jim has invited plenty of libs, this board is about politics nuc, come on, you know this.

C'mon man, there arent any liberals in here, they are all progressives.

Its kinda odd that so many liberals dont want to be considered one, nuc included, although they take most of the stances of one.

LuvRPgrl
09-02-2008, 01:55 AM
Gimme a break. You seem to be suggesting that the organizers of the peace march instigated the violence or planned it from the outset instead of it being the act of a rogue element. Where's your evidence? That's absurd.

Hate to break the news to you but usually when there are wars there are also people who oppose them. There are even people who oppose all wars. They'll sometimes gather to express their opposition, or do you think they shouldn't be permitted to?

They have the right to get violent? HA, its funny, but they show the exact same emotions that those who start wars show, they want to get something done by use of physical force, because they "want to". And they cant control themselves. Difference is, some wars we have NO CHOICE on, but these mongers live in a society where change can and does come about by peaceful means, and there are plenty of avenues in which to achieve it, IF THEY are RIGHT and supported by enough people.
BUt the rules they want to impose on others, doesnt apply to them. Typical left wing stuff.

"Peace march"? I dont know who organized it, I do know the anti war element they showed on cable KNEW it was going to become violent.

THe Dems are completely composed of left and far left elements.
Hear about the Daily Coast? Yea, thats a real winner, and Hillary and Obama and Edwards all supported the paper and went to their convention.
But now they are referring to them as "far left wing" and not something that represents the Dems,

LuvRPgrl
09-02-2008, 01:57 AM
The violent protesters are "anarchists" not "liberals". If you don't know the difference you really shouldn't be posting on a political board. You should be doing some research.

SO now you want to control who should and shouldnt be posting on the internet?
Yet liberals like you support "freedom of speech" to the point of backing NAMBLA's right to post their evil and vile stuff online.

Nuc
09-02-2008, 03:05 AM
SO now you want to control who should and shouldnt be posting on the internet?
Yet liberals like you support "freedom of speech" to the point of backing NAMBLA's right to post their evil and vile stuff online.

Yeah right, I'm a liberal and I support NAMBLA :link:

Show me where I support NAMBLA. Very stupid. Why make ad hominem attacks that can't be supported by anything?

When I said "shouldn't" post if they can't tell the dif between liberal and anarchist I meant "opinion not worth posting", not "no right to" which is clear from the context. Do you understand such English language matters as context? :pee:

diuretic
09-02-2008, 03:38 AM
Of course they were radicals, probably anarchists of some sort. I don't know the numbers but I'd think that this was a small breakaway group that had embedded itself in the main march. It's how they work.

Abbey Marie
09-02-2008, 01:25 PM
Of course they were radicals, probably anarchists of some sort. I don't know the numbers but I'd think that this was a small breakaway group that had embedded itself in the main march. It's how they work.

Again, given the fact that lots of Dems voted for the war, why wasn't there an extensive peace march at the Dem convention, and where were the so-called anarchists?

Mr. P
09-02-2008, 01:49 PM
Of course they were radicals, probably anarchists of some sort. I don't know the numbers but I'd think that this was a small breakaway group that had embedded itself in the main march. It's how they work.

Damn if that doesn't sound like how union goons work.

mundame
09-02-2008, 03:13 PM
Again, given the fact that lots of Dems voted for the war, why wasn't there an extensive peace march at the Dem convention, and where were the so-called anarchists?


I never could figure out what they were marching FOR.

I mean, darn, they've got a black nominee who pledges to bring the troops home, so what more could they want?

Apparently they pretty much figured out the same thing, eventually.

diuretic
09-02-2008, 09:54 PM
Again, given the fact that lots of Dems voted for the war, why wasn't there an extensive peace march at the Dem convention, and where were the so-called anarchists?

I've got no idea, but I seem to remember the 1968 convention in Chicago being pretty violent. Not that I'm advocating that should have happened in Denver. On this one it would appear that the anti-war coalition chose to demonstrate at the RNC to make a point. I know that both parties supported the invasion of Iraq so I'm not overlooking the fact that the Democratic Party is as much to blame as the Republican Party. Anyway whatever the reason for the demo at the RNC it would seem that the radicals, anarchists and just plain boofheads decided to use the march as cover so they could do what they do best and that is to embarrass legitimate demonstrators with behaviour similar to a bunch of drunken gorillas going downtown on a Saturday night.

mundame
09-02-2008, 10:12 PM
I've got no idea, but I seem to remember the 1968 convention in Chicago being pretty violent.


Well, the police were certainly violent. And the historical films shown lately on news programs make that clear.

Not the demonstrators. I was there, and I well remember it. That was the day of passive resistance, and the demonstrators were not violent for that reason. Which is apparently dead out of fashion now.

But those Chicago cops, believe me, they were NOT into passive resistance.

LuvRPgrl
09-03-2008, 12:06 AM
Yeah right, I'm a liberal and I support NAMBLA :link:

Show me where I support NAMBLA. Very stupid. Why make ad hominem attacks that can't be supported by anything?

When I said "shouldn't" post if they can't tell the dif between liberal and anarchist I meant "opinion not worth posting", not "no right to" which is clear from the context. Do you understand such English language matters as context? :pee:

I didnt say you support NAMBLA, I said LIBERALS LIKE YOU, support NAMBLA, of course I have no idea if you support that or not,,,but liberals, liberals like you do.

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should /ʃʊd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[shood] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–auxiliary verb 1. pt. of shall.
2. (used to express condition): Were he to arrive, I should be pleased.
3. must; ought (used to indicate duty, propriety, or expediency): You should not do that.
4. would (used to make a statement less direct or blunt): I should think you would apologize.

Now, I think you "should" utilize def. #4. :)

diuretic
09-03-2008, 01:34 AM
Well, the police were certainly violent. And the historical films shown lately on news programs make that clear.

Not the demonstrators. I was there, and I well remember it. That was the day of passive resistance, and the demonstrators were not violent for that reason. Which is apparently dead out of fashion now.

But those Chicago cops, believe me, they were NOT into passive resistance.

Yes I remember seeing the violence on tv here. "The whole world is watching!" was the chant at the police. I remember reading I think it was Time or perhaps Newsweek at the time and seeing the photographs of the police swinging clubs. They were definitely into violence and not restraint. I thought it was very ugly and I also seem to remember (sorry, doing a lot of that) that Mayor Daley was urging the police on.

I appreciate the correction, thanks and interesting that you were there, not the sort of event that decays in the memory I would think.

mundame
09-03-2008, 08:53 AM
interesting that you were there, not the sort of event that decays in the memory I would think.

No indeed, it's my own personal "war story." http://wade.hu/smiley/kategoriak/%E1llatok/animal-smiley-016.gif