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-Cp
09-11-2008, 06:22 PM
EXCERPTS: Charlie Gibson Interviews Sarah Palin
Republican VP Candidate Speaks with ABC News' Charlie Gibson in Exclusive Interview
Sept. 11, 2008—

The following excerpts are from the ABC News exclusive interview with Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin in Fairbanks, Alaska, conducted by "World News" anchor Charlie Gibson on September 11, 2008

Sarah Palin on Experience:

GIBSON: Governor, let me start by asking you a question that I asked John McCain about you, and it is really the central question. Can you look the country in the eye and say "I have the experience and I have the ability to be not just vice president, but perhaps president of the United States of America?"

PALIN: I do, Charlie, and on January 20, when John McCain and I are sworn in, if we are so privileged to be elected to serve this country, will be ready. I'm ready.

GIBSON: And you didn't say to yourself, "Am I experienced enough? Am I ready? Do I know enough about international affairs? Do I -- will I feel comfortable enough on the national stage to do this?"

PALIN: I didn't hesitate, no.

GIBSON: Didn't that take some hubris?

PALIN: I -- I answered him yes because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can't blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we're on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can't blink.

So I didn't blink then even when asked to run as his running mate.

GIBSON: But this is not just reforming a government. This is also running a government on the huge international stage in a very dangerous world. When I asked John McCain about your national security credentials, he cited the fact that you have commanded the Alaskan National Guard and that Alaska is close to Russia. Are those sufficient credentials?

PALIN: But it is about reform of government and it's about putting government back on the side of the people, and that has much to do with foreign policy and national security issues Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that's with the energy independence that I've been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy, that I worked on as chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, overseeing the oil and gas development in our state to produce more for the United States.

GIBSON: I know. I'm just saying that national security is a whole lot more than energy.

PALIN: It is, but I want you to not lose sight of the fact that energy is a foundation of national security. It's that important. It's that significant.

GIBSON: Did you ever travel outside the country prior to your trip to Kuwait and Germany last year?

PALIN: Canada, Mexico, and then, yes, that trip, that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany. That was the trip of a lifetime and it changed my life.

GIBSON: Have you ever met a foreign head of state?

PALIN: I have not and I think if you go back in history and if you ask that question of many vice presidents, they may have the same answer that I just gave you. But, Charlie, again, we've got to remember what the desire is in this nation at this time. It is for no more politics as usual and somebody's big, fat resume maybe that shows decades and decades in that Washington establishment, where, yes, they've had opportunities to meet heads of state.

Sarah Palin on God:

GIBSON: You said recently, in your old church, "Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God." Are we fighting a holy war?

PALIN: You know, I don't know if that was my exact quote.

GIBSON: Exact words.

PALIN: But the reference there is a repeat of Abraham Lincoln's words when he said -- first, he suggested never presume to know what God's will is, and I would never presume to know God's will or to speak God's words.

But what Abraham Lincoln had said, and that's a repeat in my comments, was let us not pray that God is on our side in a war or any other time, but let us pray that we are on God's side.

That's what that comment was all about, Charlie.

GIBSON: I take your point about Lincoln's words, but you went on and said, "There is a plan and it is God's plan."

PALIN: I believe that there is a plan for this world and that plan for this world is for good. I believe that there is great hope and great potential for every country to be able to live and be protected with inalienable rights that I believe are God-given, Charlie, and I believe that those are the rights to life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

That, in my world view, is a grand -- the grand plan.

GIBSON: But then are you sending your son on a task that is from God?

PALIN: I don't know if the task is from God, Charlie. What I know is that my son has made a decision. I am so proud of his independent and strong decision he has made, what he decided to do and serving for the right reasons and serving something greater than himself and not choosing a real easy path where he could be more comfortable and certainly safer.

Sarah Palin on National Security:

GIBSON: Let me ask you about some specific national security situations.

PALIN: Sure.

GIBSON: Let's start, because we are near Russia, let's start with Russia and Georgia.

The administration has said we've got to maintain the territorial integrity of Georgia. Do you believe the United States should try to restore Georgian sovereignty over South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

PALIN: First off, we're going to continue good relations with Saakashvili there. I was able to speak with him the other day and giving him my commitment, as John McCain's running mate, that we will be committed to Georgia. And we've got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep... GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.

PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there.

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

Sarah Palin on Russia:

We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We've learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union.

We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it's in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.

GIBSON: Would you favor putting Georgia and Ukraine in NATO?

PALIN: Ukraine, definitely, yes. Yes, and Georgia.

GIBSON: Because Putin has said he would not tolerate NATO incursion into the Caucasus.

PALIN: Well, you know, the Rose Revolution, the Orange Revolution, those actions have showed us that those democratic nations, I believe, deserve to be in NATO.

Putin thinks otherwise. Obviously, he thinks otherwise, but...

GIBSON: And under the NATO treaty, wouldn't we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia?

PALIN: Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help.

But NATO, I think, should include Ukraine, definitely, at this point and I think that we need to -- especially with new leadership coming in on January 20, being sworn on, on either ticket, we have got to make sure that we strengthen our allies, our ties with each one of those NATO members.

We have got to make sure that that is the group that can be counted upon to defend one another in a very dangerous world today.

GIBSON: And you think it would be worth it to the United States, Georgia is worth it to the United States to go to war if Russia were to invade.

PALIN: What I think is that smaller democratic countries that are invaded by a larger power is something for us to be vigilant against. We have got to be cognizant of what the consequences are if a larger power is able to take over smaller democratic countries.

And we have got to be vigilant. We have got to show the support, in this case, for Georgia. The support that we can show is economic sanctions perhaps against Russia, if this is what it leads to.

It doesn't have to lead to war and it doesn't have to lead, as I said, to a Cold War, but economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure, again, counting on our allies to help us do that in this mission of keeping our eye on Russia and Putin and some of his desire to control and to control much more than smaller democratic countries.

His mission, if it is to control energy supplies, also, coming from and through Russia, that's a dangerous position for our world to be in, if we were to allow that to happen.

Sarah Palin on Iran and Israel:

GIBSON: Let me turn to Iran. Do you consider a nuclear Iran to be an existential threat to Israel?

PALIN: I believe that under the leadership of Ahmadinejad, nuclear weapons in the hands of his government are extremely dangerous to everyone on this globe, yes.

GIBSON: So what should we do about a nuclear Iran?

PALIN: We have got to make sure that these weapons of mass destruction, that nuclear weapons are not given to those hands of Ahmadinejad, not that he would use them, but that he would allow terrorists to be able to use them.So we have got to put the pressure on Iran.

GIBSON: What if Israel decided it felt threatened and needed to take out the Iranian nuclear facilities?

PALIN: Well, first, we are friends with Israel and I don't think that we should second guess the measures that Israel has to take to defend themselves and for their security.

GIBSON: So if we wouldn't second guess it and they decided they needed to do it because Iran was an existential threat, we would cooperative or agree with that.

PALIN: I don't think we can second guess what Israel has to do to secure its nation.

GIBSON: So if it felt necessary, if it felt the need to defend itself by taking out Iranian nuclear facilities, that would be all right.

PALIN: We cannot second guess the steps that Israel has to take to defend itself.

Sarah Palin on 'the Bush Doctrine':

GIBSON: We talk on the anniversary of 9/11. Why do you think those hijackers attacked? Why did they want to hurt us?

PALIN: You know, there is a very small percentage of Islamic believers who are extreme and they are violent and they do not believe in American ideals, and they attacked us and now we are at a point here seven years later, on the anniversary, in this post-9/11 world, where we're able to commit to never again. They see that the only option for them is to become a suicide bomber, to get caught up in this evil, in this terror. They need to be provided the hope that all Americans have instilled in us, because we're a democratic, we are a free, and we are a free-thinking society.

GIBSON: Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?

PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?

GIBSON: The Bush -- well, what do you -- what do you interpret it to be?

PALIN: His world view.

GIBSON: No, the Bush doctrine, enunciated September 2002, before the Iraq war.

PALIN: I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell bent on destroying our nation. There have been blunders along the way, though. There have been mistakes made. And with new leadership, and that's the beauty of American elections, of course, and democracy, is with new leadership comes opportunity to do things better.

GIBSON: The Bush doctrine, as I understand it, is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense, that we have the right to a preemptive strike against any other country that we think is going to attack us. Do you agree with that?

PALIN: Charlie, if there is legitimate and enough intelligence that tells us that a strike is imminent against American people, we have every right to defend our country. In fact, the president has the obligation, the duty to defend.

GIBSON: Do we have the right to be making cross-border attacks into Pakistan from Afghanistan, with or without the approval of the Pakistani government?

PALIN: Now, as for our right to invade, we're going to work with these countries, building new relationships, working with existing allies, but forging new, also, in order to, Charlie, get to a point in this world where war is not going to be a first option. In fact, war has got to be, a military strike, a last option.

GIBSON: But, Governor, I'm asking you: We have the right, in your mind, to go across the border with or without the approval of the Pakistani government.

PALIN: In order to stop Islamic extremists, those terrorists who would seek to destroy America and our allies, we must do whatever it takes and we must not blink, Charlie, in making those tough decisions of where we go and even who we target.

GIBSON: And let me finish with this. I got lost in a blizzard of words there. Is that a yes? That you think we have the right to go across the border with or without the approval of the Pakistani government, to go after terrorists who are in the Waziristan area?

PALIN: I believe that America has to exercise all options in order to stop the terrorists who are hell bent on destroying America and our allies. We have got to have all options out there on the table.

http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=5782924

Yurt
09-11-2008, 06:40 PM
she gets grilled on her experience but obama gets a freakin pass! no, there is no bias, none...did you blink, isn't that a little hubris...fuckin media bias

midcan5
09-11-2008, 07:32 PM
Sounded like so much BS to me, I'll have to watch it, reading it makes me more cynical. I loved the Lincoln deflect, is she indirectly denying her religious roots? I think she presumed - LOL.



A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote against the fundamental principle of America, the right of the individual to lead their life privately without the government interfering.

retiredman
09-11-2008, 08:20 PM
she doesn't know shit from fat meat. The ultimate lightweight.

Kathianne
09-11-2008, 08:46 PM
she doesn't know shit from fat meat. The ultimate lightweight.

thanks for making all clear, not.

retiredman
09-11-2008, 08:50 PM
thanks for making all clear, not.

for her to claim that her saying that it was God's plan for us to fight in Iraq was somehow a "quote" of Abe Lincoln is insulting to THIS native born son of Illinois. THAT's for sure

Kathianne
09-11-2008, 08:56 PM
for her to claim that her saying that it was God's plan for us to fight in Iraq was somehow a "quote" of Abe Lincoln is insulting to THIS native born son of Illinois. THAT's for sure

Thanks for making it clear that the most partisan are going ballistic. Many kudos and thanks your way. Kisses and hugs.

retiredman
09-11-2008, 09:00 PM
Thanks for making it clear that the most partisan are going ballistic. Many kudos and thanks your way. Kisses and hugs.

I am not "going ballistic". I merely point out that she is a lightweight and no one that I take all that seriously. I realize that the koolaid soaked crowd loves her and they may, in fact, win the day in November. Which will make Mexico seem that much more enticing for me!

Yurt
09-11-2008, 09:00 PM
so WHEN has obama ever been grilled so severely about his experience? your double standards are telling. i think palin did a great job. when obamy was asked tough questions at his LAST DEBATE you all on the left cried and cried for days about how 'unfair' the quesitons were...

here is your paddle, you'll need it for the river you just cried

retiredman
09-11-2008, 09:02 PM
so WHEN has obama ever been grilled so severely about his experience? your double standards are telling. i think palin did a great job. when obamy was asked tough questions at his LAST DEBATE you all on the left cried and cried for days about how 'unfair' the quesitons were...

here is your paddle, you'll need it for the river you just cried

I am not whining yurt. Obama prevailed in a grueling democratic primary that included numerous debates. He has been questioned ad nauseum about his experience and his vision for the future and about his judgment. He won the democratic nomination.

Yurt
09-11-2008, 09:06 PM
I am not whining yurt. Obama prevailed in a grueling democratic primary that included numerous debates. He has been questioned ad nauseum about his experience and his vision for the future and about his judgment. He won the democratic nomination.

link up to where he was grilled as severely as palin...

was he ever asked:


GIBSON: Can you look the country in the eye and say "I have the experience and I have the ability to be not just vice president, but perhaps president of the United States of America?"


GIBSON: And you didn't say to yourself, "Am I experienced enough? Am I ready? Do I know enough about international affairs? Do I -- will I feel comfortable enough on the national stage to do this?"



GIBSON: Didn't that take some hubris?


GIBSON: But this is not just reforming a government. This is also running a government on the huge international stage in a very dangerous world. When I asked John McCain about your national security credentials, he cited the fact that you have commanded the Alaskan National Guard and that Alaska is close to Russia. Are those sufficient credentials?


GIBSON: I know. I'm just saying that national security is a whole lot more than energy.



GIBSON: Did you ever travel outside the country prior to your trip to Kuwait and Germany last year?


GIBSON: Have you ever met a foreign head of state?

come on mfm, link up to such a grilling obama recieved, link up to where a reporter badgered him on experience and then if you are brave enough, show how obama has ANY MORE experience than her.

i won't wait

retiredman
09-11-2008, 09:08 PM
link up to where he was grilled as severely as palin...

was he ever asked:



come on mfm, link up to such a grilling obama recieved, link up to where a reporter badgered him on experience and then if you are brave enough, show how obama has ANY MORE experience than her.

i won't wait

please don't. I have no intention of digging up the transcripts of the umpteen democratic presidential primary debates just for you.

Yurt
09-11-2008, 09:21 PM
please don't. I have no intention of digging up the transcripts of the umpteen democratic presidential primary debates just for you.

it is because you can't, you would have remembered it

retiredman
09-11-2008, 09:23 PM
it is because you can't, you would have remembered it

please don't start suggesting you understand why I won't take the time to dig up links to transcripts of democratic presidential debates. That is someone insulting.

Yurt
09-11-2008, 09:27 PM
it is not insulting. you know as well as i do that obama has never been grilled like that.

anyhoo, based on the questions gibson asked, how is it obama is more qualified? can obama look us in the eye? isn't that hubris? what foreign policy experience does he have, before his campaign trip that is.... i think if those quesitons were asked of obama, there would be an uproar of righteous indignation taht your messiah is getting unfair treatment? why? because those answers woudl sink him.

:cool:

retiredman
09-11-2008, 09:31 PM
it is not insulting. you know as well as i do that obama has never been grilled like that.

anyhoo, based on the questions gibson asked, how is it obama is more qualified? can obama look us in the eye? isn't that hubris? what foreign policy experience does he have, before his campaign trip that is.... i think if those quesitons were asked of obama, there would be an uproar of righteous indignation taht your messiah is getting unfair treatment? why? because those answers woudl sink him.

:cool:

I disagree. But your hatred for the man would not allow you to form an objective assessment in any case.

theHawk
09-11-2008, 09:34 PM
for her to claim that her saying that it was God's plan for us to fight in Iraq was somehow a "quote" of Abe Lincoln is insulting to THIS native born son of Illinois. THAT's for sure

Thats not what she said. Many US Presidents have said that we should pray that our soldiers are on God's side. Lincon, FDR, and Kennedy all said the same thing.

Mr. P
09-11-2008, 09:35 PM
I am not "going ballistic". I merely point out that she is a lightweight and no one that I take all that seriously. I realize that the koolaid soaked crowd loves her and they may, in fact, win the day in November. Which will make Mexico seem that much more enticing for me!

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

RIGHT!

Yurt
09-11-2008, 09:55 PM
I disagree. But your hatred for the man would not allow you to form an objective assessment in any case.

i forgive you for your trangression and hatred towards me.

Missileman
09-11-2008, 09:57 PM
for her to claim that her saying that it was God's plan for us to fight in Iraq was somehow a "quote" of Abe Lincoln is insulting to THIS native born son of Illinois. THAT's for sure

What's the problem preacherman...I would figure you to consider everything to be part of God's plan.

stephanie
09-11-2008, 10:03 PM
I am not "going ballistic". I merely point out that she is a lightweight and no one that I take all that seriously. I realize that the koolaid soaked crowd loves her and they may, in fact, win the day in November. Which will make Mexico seem that much more enticing for me!


just remember...don't drink the water down there..:bye1:

-Cp
09-11-2008, 10:43 PM
Here's a link to the interviews so far...
http://www.palinplanet.com/2008/09/11/sarah-palin-abc-interview-with-charlie-gibson/

manu1959
09-11-2008, 10:52 PM
tough questions direct answers.....no sweeping platitudes or bullshit......

also i agree with all her answers.....

avatar4321
09-11-2008, 11:10 PM
for her to claim that her saying that it was God's plan for us to fight in Iraq was somehow a "quote" of Abe Lincoln is insulting to THIS native born son of Illinois. THAT's for sure

It was a quote from Lincoln. I read it years ago. In fact, when I first heard her make her statement I immediately associated it with Lincolns statement because it was right then and right now.

We need to make sure we are on God's side.

Gaffer
09-12-2008, 05:52 AM
just remember...don't drink the water down there..:bye1:

Shhhhhhhh

red states rule
09-12-2008, 06:28 AM
I am not "going ballistic". I merely point out that she is a lightweight and no one that I take all that seriously. I realize that the koolaid soaked crowd loves her and they may, in fact, win the day in November. Which will make Mexico seem that much more enticing for me!

Yet a clown with a 146 days of experience in the US Senate is a heavyweight and should be President of the US :laugh2:

Please, do not delay your departure to Mexico for any reason. Feel free to leave anytime. One less America hating liberal in the country can only be a plus

retiredman
09-12-2008, 07:00 AM
What's the problem preacherman...I would figure you to consider everything to be part of God's plan.


I believe God gave man freewill. I do not believe in predestination.

retiredman
09-12-2008, 07:02 AM
It was a quote from Lincoln. I read it years ago. In fact, when I first heard her make her statement I immediately associated it with Lincolns statement because it was right then and right now.

We need to make sure we are on God's side.

She did not say anything about "being on God's side" in the film clip from her church that is in question....she tried to tap dance in her interview and tie her previous statement to Lincoln's.

red states rule
09-12-2008, 07:05 AM
I believe God gave man freewill. I do not believe in predestination.

So you do not believe God has already determined our fate, and he does not have a plan for all opf his creations?

You better log off and learn more about God preacher man

Gaffer
09-12-2008, 07:58 AM
What I got from the interview is that gibson is a piece of shit with an agenda. Another example of the msm being in the tank for the obamanation and attempting to influence voters.

red states rule
09-12-2008, 08:14 AM
What I got from the interview is that gibson is a piece of shit with an agenda. Another example of the msm being in the tank for the obamanation and attempting to influence voters.

Are you surprised Gaffer?

Check this out from ABC


ABC's 'Nightline': Sarah Palin 'Is Most Definitely Christian'
By Noel Sheppard (Bio | Archive)
September 12, 2008 - 01:18 ET

Did you know that Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin was Christian?

Well, in case you didn't, ABC's Martin Bashir felt it was necessary to bring up this fact at the beginning of Thursday's "Nightline."

No foolin'.

After an introduction teasing the topics to be addressed in this installment, Bashir curiously began

Good evening. She's been described as charismatic, she is most definitely Christian, and after less than two weeks as Sen. John McCain's running mate, she's become the focus of the presidential campaign. Sarah Palin, governor of Alaska, is already paying dividends for the Republicans. Just a month ago, an ABC News poll had Barack Obama ahead of John McCain by no less than six points. That same poll taken earlier this week showed Obama's lead has been cut to just one. So who is Sarah Palin? What does she believe? And is she qualified to step in as commander in chief? My colleague Charlie Gibson has our exclusive interview.

She is most definitely Christian.

Why do you think the producers felt this was both important and necessary to share with their viewers?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/09/12/abcs-nightline-sarah-palin-most-definitely-christian

PostmodernProphet
09-12-2008, 09:41 AM
she doesn't know shit from fat meat. The ultimate lightweight.

unfair....there is no reason to suspect she has even met you.....

red states rule
09-12-2008, 09:43 AM
unfair....there is no reason to suspect she has even met you.....

It is a safe bet Will Rogers never met MFM either

If he did, he never would have been able to say "I never met a man I did not like"

retiredman
09-12-2008, 09:43 AM
unfair....there is no reason to suspect she has even met you.....
I propose that if I can refrain from insulting you, that you might try to refrain from insulting me. what do you say? :)

PostmodernProphet
09-12-2008, 09:45 AM
I propose that if I can refrain from insulting you, that you might try to refrain from insulting me. what do you say? :)
I would have to say that you shouldn't wave fat meat in my face if you don't want me to bite it.....

red states rule
09-12-2008, 09:46 AM
I propose that if I can refrain from insulting you, that you might try to refrain from insulting me. what do you say? :)

It is only a matter of time before you do insult him - he dares to have a different POV then you have

Yurt
09-12-2008, 09:49 AM
I would have to say that you shouldn't wave fat meat in my face if you don't want me to bite it.....

:laugh2:

i like your folksy quips

Abbey Marie
09-12-2008, 10:08 AM
Well done, Sarah. :clap:

I love the part where she says she was just speaking with Mikheil Saakashvili the other day. She sounds like she's up on world affairs. As much or more so than Obammy.

I am sorry I missed it, but then again, Gibson's partisan (failed) attempts at discrediting her would have been too galling to watch anyway.

The one unanswered question I had about Sarah, was whether she could perform well in an interview or debate. I now know she can.

retiredman
09-12-2008, 10:13 AM
I would have to say that you shouldn't wave fat meat in my face if you don't want me to bite it.....

you avoided answering my question.

theHawk
09-12-2008, 10:52 AM
She did not say anything about "being on God's side" in the film clip from her church that is in question....she tried to tap dance in her interview and tie her previous statement to Lincoln's.

She did not tapdance anything. Gibson took her quote completely out of context. Here is the acutal quote from her speech to the church members:


"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

She NEVER said that the war was a task from God as though it were a factual statement. She said that we should be PRAYING that it is. BIG difference.


More from Glenn Beck on this subject as well:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/11/beck.palin/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Yurt
09-12-2008, 11:47 AM
She did not tapdance anything. Gibson took her quote completely out of context. Here is the acutal quote from her speech to the church members:



She NEVER said that the war was a task from God as though it were a factual statement. She said that we should be PRAYING that it is. BIG difference.


More from Glenn Beck on this subject as well:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/11/beck.palin/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

:clap:

-Cp
09-12-2008, 12:15 PM
Part 3:

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PostmodernProphet
09-12-2008, 12:26 PM
you avoided answering my question.
offering me another taste?.....

krisy
09-12-2008, 03:28 PM
It's obvious that Gibson waa trying his best to make her look like a religous fanatic. You could see right through him. It was also obvious he was trying very hard to make her look stupid as far as world affairs go. It didn't work. I think she is too intelligent and probably knows the liberal media too well to fall for their bull.


I saw a poll the other night that most Americans believe the media pushes the guy they personally want to win. They're not fooling anyone.

PostmodernProphet
09-12-2008, 05:51 PM
I thought it amusing today when I heard three different pundits complain that she didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was...they then proceded to say what it was, but all three said different things.....

theHawk
09-12-2008, 05:56 PM
I thought it amusing today when I heard three different pundits complain that she didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was...they then proceded to say what it was, but all three said different things.....

I didn't remeber what it was either. Its was a manufactured phrase from the left wing media, and its meaning has changing over time.

Yurt
09-12-2008, 07:00 PM
I thought it amusing today when I heard three different pundits complain that she didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was...they then proceded to say what it was, but all three said different things.....

i thought it was a bad thing to know bush's doctrine, i mean aren't they supposed to be 4 more years of bush

retiredman
09-12-2008, 09:19 PM
i thought it was a bad thing to know bush's doctrine, i mean aren't they supposed to be 4 more years of bush
those who do not effectively learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

hjmick
09-12-2008, 09:25 PM
i thought it was a bad thing to know bush's doctrine, i mean aren't they supposed to be 4 more years of bush

I thought Charles Krauthammer summed it up nicely in his OpEd to be published tomorrow:


...Presidential doctrines are inherently malleable and difficult to define. The only fixed "doctrines" in American history are the Monroe and the Truman doctrines which come out of single presidential statements during administrations where there were few other contradictory or conflicting foreign policy crosscurrents.

Such is not the case with the Bush doctrine.

Yes, Sarah Palin didn't know what it is. But neither does Charlie Gibson. And at least she didn't pretend to know -- while he looked down his nose and over his glasses with weary disdain, sighing and "sounding like an impatient teacher," as the Times noted. In doing so, he captured perfectly the establishment snobbery and intellectual condescension that has characterized the chattering classes' reaction to the mother of five who presumes to play on their stage.

Charlie Gibson's Gaffe (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091202457.html?hpid=opinionsbox1)

Granted, Krauthammer is a partisan pundit, but that does not make his conclusions any less true. This time.

Yurt
09-12-2008, 11:10 PM
those who do not effectively learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

i always thought this statement lacking in some regards. while true to a point, there is history worth repeating.

Yurt
09-12-2008, 11:11 PM
I thought Charles Krauthammer summed it up nicely in his OpEd to be published tomorrow:



Charlie Gibson's Gaffe (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091202457.html?hpid=opinionsbox1)

Granted, Krauthammer is a partisan pundit, but that does not make his conclusions any less true. This time.

i completely agree. palin has done a great job of bringing out the true snobbery and elitism that the left tries to hide. they believe themselves superior, morally, intellectually, everythign. it is repulsive.

manu1959
09-13-2008, 12:03 AM
i completely agree. palin has done a great job of bringing out the true snobbery and elitism that the left tries to hide. they believe themselves superior, morally, intellectually, everythign. it is repulsive.

if you want to know if the left is smarter than you.....just ask em....

theHawk
09-13-2008, 12:19 AM
those who do not effectively learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

I agree, which is why someone needs to educate Obama's ass on the Carter administration and policies.

hjmick
09-13-2008, 11:36 AM
I agree, which is why someone needs to educate Obama's ass on the Carter administration and policies.

As well as the failed polices of the former Soviet Union. ;)

retiredman
09-13-2008, 12:57 PM
i always thought this statement lacking in some regards. while true to a point, there is history worth repeating.

and I suppose you think that eight more years of Bush foreign policy is worth repeating?

Kathianne
09-13-2008, 01:03 PM
and I suppose you think that eight more years of Bush foreign policy is worth repeating?

Certainly better than a no conditions meeting with Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong Il or Chavez or ....

retiredman
09-13-2008, 01:11 PM
Certainly better than a no conditions meeting with Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong Il or Chavez or ....

we should just agree to disagree on that. I think it is essential to maintain lines of communications with our enemies.