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Kathianne
09-23-2008, 05:48 AM
My guess is this is the first of many more to follow:


http://online.wsj.com/public/page/news-opinion-commentary.html




Obama and Ayers
Pushed Radicalism
On Schools
By STANLEY KURTZ


Despite having authored two autobiographies, Barack Obama has never written about his most important executive experience. From 1995 to 1999, he led an education foundation called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), and remained on the board until 2001. The group poured more than $100 million into the hands of community organizers and radical education activists.
[Obama and Ayers] AP

Bill Ayers.

The CAC was the brainchild of Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground in the 1960s. Among other feats, Mr. Ayers and his cohorts bombed the Pentagon, and he has never expressed regret for his actions. Barack Obama's first run for the Illinois State Senate was launched at a 1995 gathering at Mr. Ayers's home.

The Obama campaign has struggled to downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr. Ayers as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and "not somebody who I exchange ideas with on a regular basis." Yet documents in the CAC archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners in the CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days looking through them....

Gaffer
09-23-2008, 06:29 AM
This guy has been digging out the real shit about obamanation. He'll have the life expectancy of a clinton aide after a scandle break.

midcan5
09-23-2008, 06:30 AM
Dots, if that is connecting the dots, we are in real trouble as a nation. Stupidity has won the battle over intelligence.

"Stanley Kurtz and the Anti-Obama Smear Machine" by John Wilson

"National Review writer Stanley Kurtz put himself into the headlines earlier this month by pushing the guilt-by-association link between Bill Ayers and Barack Obama because they both worked on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge to improve public schools. When Kurtz went to look at the Annenberg files at the University of Illinois at Chicago, librarians temporarily blocked access out of concerns about whether they had the proper permission to open them to the public. UIC quickly changed their dumb decision, and this week Kurtz went to read the Annenberg papers.

Previously, Kurtz had speculated that "access to the CAC records promises to provide a treasure trove of documentary evidence."

And what did he find? Absolutely nothing.

Kurtz's grand conclusion: Ayers and Obama went to the same meetings! And this brilliant attack by Kurtz: Obama is "comfortable working with people" on the left. Well, that's no surprise, since he's also comfortable working with people on the far right.

Unlike Limbaugh, I listened to Kurtz on Rosenberg's show. More than half the show was devoted to Kurtz's laughable attacks on Obama (in one case, Kurtz started reading from an innocuous book on global justice that he admitted Obama probably never read, but which he linked to Obama because Obama knows the man who runs the foundation that produced the book)."

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http://www.obamapolitics.com/

red states rule
09-23-2008, 06:36 AM
Dots, if that is connecting the dots, we are in real trouble as a nation. Stupidity has won the battle over intelligence.

"Stanley Kurtz and the Anti-Obama Smear Machine" by John Wilson

"National Review writer Stanley Kurtz put himself into the headlines earlier this month by pushing the guilt-by-association link between Bill Ayers and Barack Obama because they both worked on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge to improve public schools. When Kurtz went to look at the Annenberg files at the University of Illinois at Chicago, librarians temporarily blocked access out of concerns about whether they had the proper permission to open them to the public. UIC quickly changed their dumb decision, and this week Kurtz went to read the Annenberg papers.

Previously, Kurtz had speculated that "access to the CAC records promises to provide a treasure trove of documentary evidence."

And what did he find? Absolutely nothing.

Kurtz's grand conclusion: Ayers and Obama went to the same meetings! And this brilliant attack by Kurtz: Obama is "comfortable working with people" on the left. Well, that's no surprise, since he's also comfortable working with people on the far right.

Unlike Limbaugh, I listened to Kurtz on Rosenberg's show. More than half the show was devoted to Kurtz's laughable attacks on Obama (in one case, Kurtz started reading from an innocuous book on global justice that he admitted Obama probably never read, but which he linked to Obama because Obama knows the man who runs the foundation that produced the book)."

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http://www.obamapolitics.com/

It is not guilt by association midcan

It is fuilt by participation

Fianlly Obama has more experience in something then McCain or Palin

midcan5
09-23-2008, 06:42 AM
Does it ever bother people that they post lies as truth? I even hear Palin has withdrawn her constant lying about the bridge to nowhere. This is a curious use of rhetoric and distortion, even MSM talks about it today.

As American citizens have we - YOU - no responsibility, no sense of honesty, for what we post?

Julius Streicher would feel at home in the republican spin machine.

red states rule
09-23-2008, 06:46 AM
Does it ever bother people that they post lies as truth? I even hear Palin has withdrawn her constant lying about the bridge to nowhere. This is a curious use of rhetoric and distortion, even MSM talks about it today.

As American citizens have we - YOU - no responsibility, no sense of honesty, for what we post?

Julius Streicher would feel at home in the republican spin machine.

Where is the lie? Obama sought out Ayers help to get his political career started, and has a track record of failure in Chicago

He did the same thing with the convicted slumlord Tony Rezko

Here is another source

Grim proving ground for Obama's housing policy
The candidate endorsed subsidies for private entrepreneurs to build low-income units. But, while he garnered support from developers, many projects in his former district have fallen into disrepair.

By Binyamin Appelbaum
Globe Staff / June 27, 2008
CHICAGO - The squat brick buildings of Grove Parc Plaza, in a dense neighborhood that Barack Obama represented for eight years as a state senator, hold 504 apartments subsidized by the federal government for people who can't afford to live anywhere else.

But it's not safe to live here.

About 99 of the units are vacant, many rendered uninhabitable by unfixed problems, such as collapsed roofs and fire damage. Mice scamper through the halls. Battered mailboxes hang open. Sewage backs up into kitchen sinks. In 2006, federal inspectors graded the condition of the complex an 11 on a 100-point scale - a score so bad the buildings now face demolition.

Grove Parc has become a symbol for some in Chicago of the broader failures of giving public subsidies to private companies to build and manage affordable housing - an approach strongly backed by Obama as the best replacement for public housing.

As a state senator, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee coauthored an Illinois law creating a new pool of tax credits for developers. As a US senator, he pressed for increased federal subsidies. And as a presidential candidate, he has campaigned on a promise to create an Affordable Housing Trust Fund that could give developers an estimated $500 million a year.

But a Globe review found that thousands of apartments across Chicago that had been built with local, state, and federal subsidies - including several hundred in Obama's former district - deteriorated so completely that they were no longer habitable.

Grove Parc and several other prominent failures were developed and managed by Obama's close friends and political supporters. Those people profited from the subsidies even as many of Obama's constituents suffered. Tenants lost their homes; surrounding neighborhoods were blighted.

Some of the residents of Grove Parc say they are angry that Obama did not notice their plight. The development straddles the boundary of Obama's state Senate district. Many of the tenants have been his constituents for more than a decade.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/

Gaffer
09-23-2008, 07:51 AM
Does it ever bother people that they post lies as truth? I even hear Palin has withdrawn her constant lying about the bridge to nowhere. This is a curious use of rhetoric and distortion, even MSM talks about it today.

As American citizens have we - YOU - no responsibility, no sense of honesty, for what we post?

Julius Streicher would feel at home in the republican spin machine.

You mean like the daily kos and du and leftie bloggers making shit up and posting it as fact? The msm repeating it as news when they know its made up? Those kind of lies? Yeah it bothers me and I would love to shut them up. Does it bother you that they lie like this? No. Because they are attacking your hated conservatives and that gives them immunity.

Kurtz is digging out a lot of true dirt on obamanation. So now its time for the media to counter all that dirt and white wash it. Part of that white wash is the likes of you posting on boards trying to make Kurtz look bad.

theHawk
09-23-2008, 08:04 AM
Midcan, you're forgetting that in the primary debates Obama defended his association with Ayers by saying he was only 8 years old when Ayers did all those bombings. I guess that means all we have to do is wait and over the years we should all forgive, and even work with, present day terrorists. Perhaps in 30 years he'd be willing to work with Osama bin Laden on some committee because by then his terrorist activities will be ancient history.

red states rule
09-23-2008, 08:06 AM
Midcan, you're forgetting that in the primary debates Obama defended his association with Ayers by saying he was only 8 years old when Ayers did all those bombings. I guess that means all we have to do is wait and over the years we should all forgive, and even work with, present day terrorists. Perhaps in 30 years he'd be willing to work with Osama bin Laden on some committee because by then his terrorist activities will be ancient history.

Obama wants to do to the entire country what he has done to Chicago

Ayers could be his Sec of Housing, or even Sec of State