Biden "forced" copter landing

[retiredman]

I don't know, but you're hint that Eisenhower's marginal rates were reasonable makes me think that you were thinking it would be a grand thing to see those kinds of rates again. You threw those numbers out not me. You pointed to them, not me.

I wonder what $400k/year in 1955 works out to be? I doubt there were too many CEO's that even came close to that figure back then. I know my parents told me that they were living on something like $175 (can't remember whether it was per week or per month but not much different) in 1961 when I was born. Or maybe that was one of those, "I walked five miles to school everyday up hill both ways", tales. My dad was in the Air Force.

But, let me guess, 90% of income above $400k would suit you and Obama quite happily.

Hey, I have an idea. Why don't you commit to donating say 105% of your income above say $60,000/year to Barack Obama's socialist government? Put your money where you mouth is. I imagine you make at least $60k. If you don't then set it at about 75% of your income and go from there.

Immie

kiss my ass, immie. NO one but you is saying anything about 90%. I point out that you want to claim that Obama would be driving us to socialism by bumping them up the 3-4% that the Bush tax cuts for millionaires dropped it to, but NO ONE ever calls Ike a socialist. Why the fuck IS that?
:poke:

[Immanuel]

right where they were during the Clinton administration. I think I already said that about twelve times.

I think you need to learn to count. I only see that once in this entire thread and I was not at my computer when you posted it.

Hmm, I don't think we are that far from those rates today.

http://www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rates.php

http://taxes.about.com/od/2007taxes/qt/2007_tax_rates.htm

Some how, I see Obama's socialized medicine plans alone at that rate skyrocketing the National Debt. Unless maybe his plan is to add a new tax like Social Insecurity in order to pay for his plan?

Immie

[Immanuel]

kiss my ass, immie. NO one but you is saying anything about 90%. I point out that you want to claim that Obama would be driving us to socialism by bumping them up the 3-4% that the Bush tax cuts for millionaires dropped it to, but NO ONE ever calls Ike a socialist. Why the fuck IS that?
:poke:

I wasn't around when Ike was President and quite honestly, I am not a historian of his Presidency. I'd have to say that it is not the tax rate that makes one a socialist, but rather what an administration plans on doing with those taxes that makes them a socialist. Obama is a socialist, no if's, and's or but's about it. He has stated repeatedly that he wants to take for those who have and give to those who do not so as to make everyone feel good about themselves. That in my book is socialism.

And kiss your own. :poke: If I visited you in Maine, I'd buy you a beer and probably give you a brotherly hug, but I'll be darned if I'm kissing your ass. :laugh2:

Immie

[Kathianne]

missed this one kathianne...it was at the bottom of the page after all.

No... of course I do not believe I am God. What an insulting and inflammatory question.

Yet you judge and answer as if you believe you are. Reminder, men of God are not God.

[retiredman]

Yet you judge and answer as if you believe you are. Reminder, men of God are not God.

I neither judge no act as if I am God. ANd I really don't need any professional ethical reminders from you...would you like me lecturing YOU on educator's ethics? I would imagine not.

[retiredman]

I wasn't around when Ike was President and quite honestly, I am not a historian of his Presidency. I'd have to say that it is not the tax rate that makes one a socialist, but rather what an administration plans on doing with those taxes that makes them a socialist. Obama is a socialist, no if's, and's or but's about it. He has stated repeatedly that he wants to take for those who have and give to those who do not so as to make everyone feel good about themselves. That in my book is socialism.

And kiss your own. :poke: If I visited you in Maine, I'd buy you a beer and probably give you a brotherly hug, but I'll be darned if I'm kissing your ass. :laugh2:

Immie

tone down the inflammatory bullshit about 105% or 90%.

We'll have to agree to disagree about Obama being a socialist.

And I welcome you in Maine anytime.

[Immanuel]

Yet you judge and answer as if you believe you are. Reminder, men of God are not God.


I neither judge no act as if I am God. ANd I really don't need any professional ethical reminders from you...would you like me lecturing YOU on educator's ethics? I would imagine not.

I don't know how any of us can discuss these kind of things from our hearts and not sound like we are judging each other. If anyone who posts here, can accomplish such a thing, I say "hats of to you".

I don't think MFM is judging. I think MFM is speaking from his heart. I think he is wrong, but I still think MFM is speaking from the goodness of his heart... but he's still wrong. :D

Immie

[Kathianne]

I neither judge no act as if I am God. ANd I really don't need any professional ethical reminders from you...would you like me lecturing YOU on educator's ethics? I would imagine not.

You have. In any case, you do act as if you think you are God. You are not, not even close to what the apostles preached. You do not put forth any ideas towards acceptance, compromise, love; other than in your 'separate' posts in blogs of homilies.

You sir, are not a man of God, certainly not even close to such.

[Immanuel]

tone down the inflammatory bullshit about 105% or 90%.

We'll have to agree to disagree about Obama being a socialist.

And I welcome you in Maine anytime.

Okay, should I go with 75%? Heck that's way below the extreme rates.

Do I get to raz you if Obama becomes President and suggests we go above 60% which is an amount that I believe to be absurd? The government should not punish people for trying to do the best they can.

Immie

[Silver]

He is his party's nominee for president. He was sitting at the desk in the white house yesterday right along with McCain.... doing his job...

and kicking Johnnie's ass in the polls!:laugh2:

And to you its makes no difference that BHO was dragged in kicking and screaming while McCain went because he saw it as his duty....

You never fail to disappoint me...my opinion of you is valid, you're an asshole..

[retiredman]

And to you its makes no difference that BHO was dragged in kicking and screaming while McCain went because he saw it as his duty....

You never fail to disappoint me...my opinion of you is valid, you're an asshole..


BHO was invited. He attended. JSM made a big theatrical deal about going to washington to save this thing and only served to fuck it up.

And trust me...please... you need to really understand something quite clearly. Your opinion of me is worth less to me than a bucket of warm spit, to quote John Nance Garner.

[Silver]

BHO was invited. He attended. JSM made a big theatrical deal about going to washington to save this thing and only served to fuck it up.

And trust me...please... you need to really understand something quite clearly. Your opinion of me is worth less to me than a bucket of warm spit, to quote John Nance Garner.

A Senator that has to "be invited" to Washington to do the fuckin' job he is being paid to do, doesn't belong in Washington as a Senator, let alone the fuckin' President....and THAT pinhead, is the fact of the matter....:fu:

[Silver]

BHO was invited. He attended. JSM made a big theatrical deal about going to washington to save this thing and only served to fuck it up.

And trust me...please... you need to really understand something quite clearly. Your opinion of me is worth less to me than a bucket of warm spit, to quote John Nance Garner.

I really don't give a rats ass what my opinion means to you....I just like everyone to know that you've earned my opinion of you fair and square....
and its as valid as 2+2 equaling 4.....

[retiredman]

A Senator that has to "be invited" to Washington to do the fuckin' job he is being paid to do, doesn't belong in Washington as a Senator, let alone the fuckin' President....and THAT pinhead, is the fact of the matter....:fu:

he was invited to attend a photo op at the white house. He is not a member of any legislative committee dealing with this issue. NO doubt he will fly to DC to vote when legislation is brought to the floor. THAT is his job....not grandstanding and playing a stupid game of chicken (which he lost) like John McCain did.:fu:

[retiredman]

I really don't give a rats ass what my opinion means to you....I just like everyone to know that you've earned my opinion of you fair and square....
and its as valid as 2+2 equaling 4.....
since when was DP.com a site where people needed to express their opinions of others? why not just debate the issues? I think your a fucking asshole, but I don't feel compelled to create a post just to tell you that, and I know full well that fucking assholes like you could give a shit what intelligent democrats like me think of you anyway!:laugh2:

[Silver]

wow...if you're one of the intelligent ones, God help the others....

[retiredman]

wow...if you're one of the intelligent ones, God help the others....

wanna match IQ's muthafucka?

wanna match CV's?

anytime...anyplace:laugh2:

[Immanuel]

wanna match IQ's muthafucka?

wanna match CV's?

anytime...anyplace:laugh2:

And you were doing so well... :(

Immie

[Silver]

And you were doing so well... :(

Immie

Really Immie...can he pull the wool over your eyes so easily.....

10,000 posts and a rep of 0 says it all....

[Immanuel]

Really Immie...can he pull the wool over your eyes so easily.....

A rep of 0 says it all....

He and I get along quite well despite the fact that we agree on so little. His rep is well deserved in the way that he goes after others, but then it takes two to Tango.

Immie

[retiredman]

Really Immie...can he pull the wool over your eyes so easily.....

10,000 posts and a rep of 0 says it all....

Immie knows that you are full of shit when it comes to me...he's been arguing politely with me for seven years. I come on this site because it is filled with conservatives. It is like a mental workout for me.... I EXPECT a negative rep and get what I expect. If I had a positive rep on a site filled with assholes like you, I would obviously not be making my points!:laugh2:

now go fuck yourself

[Kathianne]

Immie knows that you are full of shit when it comes to me...he's been arguing politely with me for seven years. I come on this site because it is filled with conservatives. It is like a mental workout for me.... I EXPECT a negative rep and get what I expect. If I had a positive rep on a site filled with assholes like you, I would obviously not be making my points!:laugh2:

now go fuck yourself
Not so long ago you had positive rep, though you were still liberal. Seems now you make a point of being an ahole, not a liberal.

[Immanuel]

[/B]
Not so long ago you had positive rep, though you were still liberal. Seems now you make a point of being an ahole, not a liberal.

Not saying he is an ahole, but maybe the aggravation is setting in from seeing the third straight Presidential election go down the crapper for the Democrats?

At least that is where I hope it is headed.

Immie

[Mr. P]

he was invited to attend a photo op at the white house. He is not a member of any legislative committee dealing with this issue. NO doubt he will fly to DC to vote when legislation is brought to the floor. THAT is his job....not grandstanding and playing a stupid game of chicken (which he lost) like John McCain did.:fu:

Yeah right..he's voted a whoppin 87 times out of 220 this session.

Must have missed all those flights I guess.

[red states rule]

Immie knows that you are full of shit when it comes to me...he's been arguing politely with me for seven years. I come on this site because it is filled with conservatives. It is like a mental workout for me.... I EXPECT a negative rep and get what I expect. If I had a positive rep on a site filled with assholes like you, I would obviously not be making my points!:laugh2:

now go fuck yourself

Besides the point on top of your head - you never make any points in your posts

Just insults and personal attacks towards those who will not bow before you. Is that the point you try to make all the time preacher man?

BTW, if you do not like the company here - feel free to leave at any time. I can assure you, most here will not miss you and will not shead a tear over your leaving

[retiredman]

[/B]
Not so long ago you had positive rep, though you were still liberal. Seems now you make a point of being an ahole, not a liberal.

actually.... if you were to look back somehow, you would see that when I had a positive rep, my tone was much more strident than it is now. My negative rep is due almost entirely to RSR who neg reps me nearly every day. For the longest time, my rep kept going down and I didn't know why. It would indicate that I had a new rep, but when I clicked on it, there were no new rep comments to read. I finally figured out that it was RSR by temporarily removing him from my ignore list and then all of his rep comments became visible. I put him back on ignore and that is where he will stay. I would suggest that the little weasel is so frustrated that I won't respond to his unimaginative and repetitively boring slurs, that he neg reps me every day out of spite. So be it.:coffee:

[Immanuel]

BTW, if you do not like the company here - feel free to leave at any time. I can assure you, most here will not miss you and will not shead a tear over your leaving

My personal opinion (which isn't worth much) is that if MFM were to leave this site would be worthless. MFM is about the only liberal left on this site that will actually argue his position with even a tiny bit of intelligence and stick around to do so. Now, there are maybe one or two more such as Mundame and Gabby but they only pop in and out from time to time and carrying on an issue with them takes forever.

There are others who used to do this but for varying reasons they have all been run off.

The rest of the liberals on this site don't argue anything at all, they only hurl insults. MFM may spout more than his fair share of insults, but he mixes them in with his arguments.

Now, by saying the site would be worthless without him, that doesn't mean that I don't like the some of the conservatives on this site, but let's be real... do we really want another www.democraticunderground.com where everyone has to agree to the Republican talking points or be banned? Hell no!

Immie

[red states rule]

My personal opinion (which isn't worth much) is that if MFM were to leave this site would be worthless. MFM is about the only liberal left on this site that will actually argue his position with even a tiny bit of intelligence and stick around to do so. Now, there are maybe one or two more such as Mundame and Gabby but they only pop in and out from time to time and carrying on an issue with them takes forever.

There are others who used to do this but for varying reasons they have all been run off.

The rest of the liberals on this site don't argue anything at all, they only hurl insults. MFM may spout more than his fair share of insults, but he mixes them in with his arguments.

Now, by saying the site would be worthless without him, that doesn't mean that I don't like the some of the conservatives on this site, but let's be real... do we really want another www.democraticunderground.com where everyone has to agree to the Republican talking points or be banned? Hell no!

Immie

MFm is nothing but a hate filled partisan hack who can't go mroe then 3 or 4 psosts in a "debate" until he falls back on his persoanl attacks and the f - bomb

He is worthless Immie, and the board will go on fine without his sorry ass. We would still have Gabby, BP, PB, midcan, and other libs to express their views and provide the comic relief

[red states rule]

actually.... if you were to look back somehow, you would see that when I had a positive rep, my tone was much more strident than it is now. My negative rep is due almost entirely to RSR who neg reps me nearly every day. For the longest time, my rep kept going down and I didn't know why. It would indicate that I had a new rep, but when I clicked on it, there were no new rep comments to read. I finally figured out that it was RSR by temporarily removing him from my ignore list and then all of his rep comments became visible. I put him back on ignore and that is where he will stay. I would suggest that the little weasel is so frustrated that I won't respond to his unimaginative and repetitively boring slurs, that he neg reps me every day out of spite. So be it.:coffee:

http://picturebook.chattablogs.com/archives/images/06_02_11.jpg

[Immanuel]

MFm is nothing but a hate filled partisan hack who can't go mroe then 3 or 4 psosts in a "debate" until he falls back on his persoanl attacks and the f - bomb

He is worthless Immie, and the board will go on fine without his sorry ass. We would still have Gabby, BP, PB, midcan, and other libs to express their views and provide the comic relief

Both Midcan and BP would fit in the category of sporatic posters. As for PB, although funny, he never seems to actually come out and argue anything at all. Lots of insults but... well... I am just not certain where he stands on any issue except for "Democrats all the way".

As for MFM being a partisan hack... well, I know you are not going to like this and again you will claim otherwise by saying you were never going to vote for McCain until Gov. Palin came along, but... pot, meet kettle.

Immie

[red states rule]

Both Midcan and BP would fit in the category of sporatic posters. As for PB, although funny, he never seems to actually come out and argue anything at all. Lots of insults but... well... I am just not certain where he stands on any issue except for "Democrats all the way".

As for MFM being a partisan hack... well, I know you are not going to like this and again you will claim otherwise by saying you were never going to vote for McCain until Gov. Palin came along, but... pot, meet kettle.

Immie

Unlike MFM, I will take my party on, will admit when they are wrong, and I still say openly I do not trust McCain on many of the issues. This is an admisiion you would never get from MFM

Even when confronted with his previous posts, MFM will lie and then attack. In his world, Dems can never ever do nothing wrong.

Then he draws out his shield of his service, and whines how his patriotism is being questioned

I am voting more for Gov Palin, and not for McCain.

[Immanuel]

Unlike MFM, I will take my party on, will admit when they are wrong, and I still say openly I do not trust McCain on many of the issues. This is an admisiion you would never get from MFM

Even when confronted with his previous posts, MFM will lie and then attack. In his world, Dems can never ever do nothing wrong.

Then he draws out his shield of his service, and whines how his patriotism is being questioned

I am voting more for Gov Palin, and not for McCain.

My friend, simply because you disagree with MFM and his party does not make him a partisan hack... although he is.

He passionately believes in the platform of his party. Maybe almost as much as he believes in God, but I don't know that. But, when one passionately believes in something he is going to defend it. I have never defended MFM's use of insults. I think he'd be a thousand times more effective without them, but then that is just me.

You ARE a partisan hack. With you it is the conservative Republican institution and you think right now that Republicans have sold you out and quite frankly, I agree. But, you... just like MFM, argue your beliefs passionately and unwaveringly and I might add with plenty of insults. You are not all that different than MFM. Maybe that is why you two seem to dislike each other so much.

Immie

[Immanuel]

Oh and one more thing, RSR, I am 100% certain that if the Democrats had nominated Zell Miller for the Office of the President of the United States of America, MFM would be having the same kind of hissy fit that we all are.

COUNT ON IT!

Immie

[red states rule]

Oh and one more thing, RSR, I am 100% certain that if the Democrats had nominated Zell Miller for the Office of the President of the United States of America, MFM would be having the same kind of hissy fit that we all are.

COUNT ON IT!

Immie

or Joe Lieberman for that matter

I know damn well MFM voted for Joe to be VP in 2000 :laugh2:

[red states rule]

My friend, simply because you disagree with MFM and his party does not make him a partisan hack... although he is.

He passionately believes in the platform of his party. Maybe almost as much as he believes in God, but I don't know that. But, when one passionately believes in something he is going to defend it. I have never defended MFM's use of insults. I think he'd be a thousand times more effective without them, but then that is just me.

You ARE a partisan hack. With you it is the conservative Republican institution and you think right now that Republicans have sold you out and quite frankly, I agree. But, you... just like MFM, argue your beliefs passionately and unwaveringly and I might add with plenty of insults. You are not all that different than MFM. Maybe that is why you two seem to dislike each other so much.

Immie

Does a partisan hack admit when his party is wrong - or their President? I have

I have been pissed at the previous Republican Congress and said so

I have been pissed at Pres Bush many times and said so

MFM has never, to my knowledge, said anything bad about his side, and has lied to cover for them

Unlike MFM I have never wished death on those that disagree with me - or take shots at their family members

[Immanuel]

Does a partisan hack admit when his party is wrong - or their President? I have

I have been pissed at the previous Republican Congress and said so

I have been pissed at Pres Bush many times and said so

MFM has never, to my knowledge, said anything bad about his side, and has lied to cover for them

Unlike MFM I have never wished death on those that disagree with me - or take shots at their family members

My friend, superficial condemnation of your party means nothing. Your actions speak louder than words and so far your actions say... Republican Partisan Hack - 100%. Sorry, but that is the way it is.

MFM has apologized dozens of times for the death wish. It was in extremely poor taste, but there is a time when that has to be dropped. You do recognize your need to forgive, don't you?

Immie

[red states rule]

My friend, superficial condemnation of your party means nothing. Your actions speak louder than words and so far your actions say... Republican Partisan Hack - 100%. Sorry, but that is the way it is.

MFM has apologized dozens of times for the death wish. It was in extremely poor taste, but there is a time when that has to be dropped. You do recognize your need to forgive, don't you?

Immie

Call me what you will, but they were not superficial condemnation comments.

Unlike MFM, we can have a disagreement without either of us attacking, droping the F bomb, or insulting each other

I keep asking MFM for which death wish he is apologizing for. He repeated the comment twice - making a total of 3 times. I need to know for which one I need to forgive him for

[retiredman]

My friend, superficial condemnation of your party means nothing. Your actions speak louder than words and so far your actions say... Republican Partisan Hack - 100%. Sorry, but that is the way it is.

MFM has apologized dozens of times for the death wish. It was in extremely poor taste, but there is a time when that has to be dropped. You do recognize your need to forgive, don't you?

Immie

Immie... the real issue is that RSR cannot carry on a debate with his own words. He cuts and pastes or he uses the same tired one-liners over and over and over again. I have apologized for wishing RSR ill. Many times... but he really has no interest in forgiving me....and after our talk last week about the parable of the ungrateful servant, we both know where that will land poor RSR come judgment day. ;)

I really used to like to smack him around USMB but he found the membership there too even between left and right for his liking so he migrated here because of the preponderance of righties who were much more willing to accept his cut and paste repetitive style... I actually moved over here for much the same reason... there were far too many lefties on USMB and I wanted the challenge this place provided.

For me, however, RSR is not part of that challenge. He reminds me of the tarbaby.... you can punch him...he never punches back, but you get yourself stuck in a loop punching at the same old crap: other people's words repeated over and over again....that, and his non-stop insults of my patriotism and my service made me finally realize that life was much nicer without reading his tripe. It takes some discipline sometimes, because, on those rare occasions when he tried to say something on his own, he would get so flummoxed that it was quite entertaining to tie him up in his own misstatements. Nonetheless, I have stuck to my pledge to keep him on ignore and I think it remains a good decision.

[red states rule]

Immie... the real issue is that RSR cannot carry on a debate with his own words. He cuts and pastes or he uses the same tired one-liners over and over and over again. I have apologized for wishing RSR ill. Many times... but he really has no interest in forgiving me....and after our talk last week about the parable of the ungrateful servant, we both know where that will land poor RSR come judgment day. ;)

I really used to like to smack him around USMB but he found the membership there too even between left and right for his liking so he migrated here because of the preponderance of righties who were much more willing to accept his cut and paste repetitive style... I actually moved over here for much the same reason... there were far too many lefties on USMB and I wanted the challenge this place provided.

For me, however, RSR is not part of that challenge. He reminds me of the tarbaby.... you can punch him...he never punches back, but you get yourself stuck in a loop punching at the same old crap: other people's words repeated over and over again....that, and his non-stop insults of my patriotism and my service made me finally realize that life was much nicer without reading his tripe. It takes some discipline sometimes, because, on those rare occasions when he tried to say something on his own, he would get so flummoxed that it was quite entertaining to tie him up in his own misstatements. Nonetheless, I have stuck to my pledge to keep him on ignore and I think it remains a good decision.

Congrats MFM. You set a new record for most lies in a single post :salute:

[Immanuel]

Call me what you will, but they were not superficial condemnation comments.

Unlike MFM, we can have a disagreement without either of us attacking, droping the F bomb, or insulting each other

I keep asking MFM for which death wish he is apologizing for. He repeated the comment twice - making a total of 3 times. I need to know for which one I need to forgive him for

No, my friend, he has apologized, which in my book is asking for forgiveness. You need to forgive him for all three times... you say it was three and I am taking your word for that. Regardless, for your own piece of mind, you need to forgive him about it.

You need not request that he fall on his own sword a thousand times just to make you happy.


Immie... the real issue is that RSR cannot carry on a debate with his own words. He cuts and pastes or he uses the same tired one-liners over and over and over again. I have apologized for wishing RSR ill. Many times... but he really has no interest in forgiving me....and after our talk last week about the parable of the ungrateful servant, we both know where that will land poor RSR come judgment day. ;)

I really used to like to smack him around USMB but he found the membership there too even between left and right for his liking so he migrated here because of the preponderance of righties who were much more willing to accept his cut and paste repetitive style... I actually moved over here for much the same reason... there were far too many lefties on USMB and I wanted the challenge this place provided.

For me, however, RSR is not part of that challenge. He reminds me of the tarbaby.... you can punch him...he never punches back, but you get yourself stuck in a loop punching at the same old crap: other people's words repeated over and over again....that, and his non-stop insults of my patriotism and my service made me finally realize that life was much nicer without reading his tripe. It takes some discipline sometimes, because, on those rare occasions when he tried to say something on his own, he would get so flummoxed that it was quite entertaining to tie him up in his own misstatements. Nonetheless, I have stuck to my pledge to keep him on ignore and I think it remains a good decision.

Since when is it a requirement on these boards that one be an adequate debater? I guess I should leave. If RSR cuts and pastes, then so what? It is his style.

As for USMB, I never found a home there. It just seemed to big and impersonal for me. I know there are several people that post on the same boards I have posted on that also reside over there, but USMB just doesn't have the flare that other boards have. IMHO

And finally, as a brother in Christ, I would ask you to look at the last paragraph of your post that I quoted here. It is time that you start practicing what you preach and forgive. You do preach forgiveness of sins... don't you?

Clearly you have not yet forgiven RSR. Maybe you need to forgive today rather than at some point in the future. We can never know when God will call us to account for our lives, now can we?

Immie

[red states rule]

No, my friend, he has apologized, which in my book is asking for forgiveness. You need to forgive him for all three times... you say it was three and I am taking your word for that. Regardless, for your own piece of mind, you need to forgive him about it.

You need not request that he fall on his own sword a thousand times just to make you happy.



Since when is it a requirement on these boards that one be an adequate debater? I guess I should leave. If RSR cuts and pastes, then so what? It is his style.

As for USMB, I never found a home there. It just seemed to big and impersonal for me. I know there are several people that post on the same boards I have posted on there that also reside over there, but USMB just doesn't have the flare that other boards have. IMHO

And finally, as a brother in Christ, I would ask you to look at the last paragraph of your post that I quoted here. It is time that you start practicing what you preach and forgive. You do preach forgiveness of sins... don't you?

Clearly you have not yet forgiven RSR. Maybe you need to forgive today rather than at some point in the future. We can never know when God will call us to account for our lives, now can we?

Immie

Immie, MFM is a coward who runs from honest debate, and falls back on his hate and huge ego

He can ignore me if he wants, but it is because he loses badly to me, and is unable to have a civil conversation

[Immanuel]

Immie, MFM is a coward who runs from honest debate, and falls back on his hate and huge ego

He can ignore me if he wants, but it is because he loses badly to me, and is unable to have a civil conversation

Yurt once told me... "get over yourself". Advice we should all heed. :D

Immie

[red states rule]

Yurt once told me... "get over yourself". Advice we should all heed. :D

Immie

When if comes to MFM I know I am right. He runs fine, and would make a great track star

[retiredman]

No, my friend, he has apologized, which in my book is asking for forgiveness. You need to forgive him for all three times... you say it was three and I am taking your word for that. Regardless, for your own piece of mind, you need to forgive him about it.

You need not request that he fall on his own sword a thousand times just to make you happy.



Since when is it a requirement on these boards that one be an adequate debater? I guess I should leave. If RSR cuts and pastes, then so what? It is his style.

As for USMB, I never found a home there. It just seemed to big and impersonal for me. I know there are several people that post on the same boards I have posted on that also reside over there, but USMB just doesn't have the flare that other boards have. IMHO

And finally, as a brother in Christ, I would ask you to look at the last paragraph of your post that I quoted here. It is time that you start practicing what you preach and forgive. You do preach forgiveness of sins... don't you?

Clearly you have not yet forgiven RSR. Maybe you need to forgive today rather than at some point in the future. We can never know when God will call us to account for our lives, now can we?

Immie

I forgave him, but he keeps it up, so I must admit that my forgiveness has lagged behind the things I need to forgive him for. I am trying, Immie... I really am. pray for me, pal. :)

[red states rule]

I forgave him, but he keeps it up, so I must admit that my forgiveness has lagged behind the things I need to forgive him for. I am trying, Immie... I really am. pray for me, pal. :)

http://rubensborges.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/drunk-puking-pumpkin-770199.jpg

[Trigg]

you can smear the good works of Trinity UCC because of a few 30 second sound bites, but I ain't buyin' it. I personally think that Trinity UCC is a great church that has done the Lord's work in and around Chicago for decades. The president of the United Church of Christ nationwide has nothing but praise for that church.

How do you feel about the "speaking in tongues", "ready for rapture", "witch hunting" pastor who has been Sarah's spiritual advisor, by the way? :laugh2:

McCain finished at the bottom of his class at Annapolis.
Obama was editor of the Law Review at Harvard.

The President of the church may have praise for the church and it's good works. I was talking about the White hating, Jew hating, racist pastor who was Bambams spiritual advisor.

I also wasn't talking about Obama. You said he was going to surround himself with smart people. Biden isn't smart, his grades have already been posted on this forum. We don't know if Bambam is smart yet, since his grades haven't been posted.

I suspect that, much like Kerry who ranted daily on Bush's grades, we will find that Bambam did just as poorly in school. Proof on McCain's standing in Annapolis would be nice also........I could take your word for it, but I'm not going to.

[red states rule]

The President of the church may have praise for the church and it's good works. I was talking about the White hating, Jew hating, racist pastor who was Bambams spiritual advisor.

I also wasn't talking about Obama. You said he was going to surround himself with smart people. Biden isn't smart, his grades have already been posted on this forum. We don't know if Bambam is smart yet, since his grades haven't been posted.

I suspect that, much like Kerry who ranted daily on Bush's grades, we will find that Bambam did just as poorly in school. Proof on McCain's standing in Annapolis would be nice also........I could take your word for it, but I'm not going to.

MFM and others, love to twist things. Here are the facts on McCain and the Naval Academy

Following in the footsteps of his father and grandfather, McCain entered the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis. There, he was a friend and informal leader for many of his classmates,[9] and sometimes stood up for people who were being bullied.[4] He also became a lightweight boxer.[10] McCain came into conflict with higher-ranking personnel, he did not always obey the rules, and that contributed to a low class rank (894 of 899) despite a strong intelligence.[9][11] He did well in academic subjects that interested him, such as literature and history, but studied only enough to pass subjects he struggled with, such as mathematics.[4][12] McCain graduated in 1958.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain

[Yurt]

obama was VOTED the position of editor, it is not a merit position

i'm sure people like mfm would forgive me and focus on all my good qualities if i called obama a f*cking nigger. but rev wright of course gets a pass and so does obama for haviing him as a spiritual mentor for two decades.

such hypocrisy would be laughable if it weren't so seriously screwed up and its effect so negative on this country.

[retiredman]

Proof on McCain's standing in Annapolis would be nice also........I could take your word for it, but I'm not going to.

894 out of 899. If you doubt me, go look it up.

[Silver]

894 out of 899. If you doubt me, go look it up.

Did Affirmative Action get McCain enrolled....???

Know what they called the 899th one?........................ENSIGN, same as the #1.....

[retiredman]

Did Affirmative Action get McCain enrolled....???

Know what they called the 899th one?........................ENSIGN, same as the #1.....

And clearly, McCain had an advantage getting into Annapolis. His dad and granddad were both graduates and were both Admirals.

And...actually, they call him "Anchor Man" and he is 898 dollars richer than everyone else.

and they may or may not call him ensign.... they may call him 2nd Lieutenant.

[Huoliuhi]

bump up ..

[red states rule]

And clearly, McCain had an advantage getting into Annapolis. His dad and granddad were both graduates and were both Admirals.

And...actually, they call him "Anchor Man" and he is 898 dollars richer than everyone else.

and they may or may not call him ensign.... they may call him 2nd Lieutenant.

Who did you bribe to get your "commission"?

[actsnoblemartin]

atleast biden is honest, i didnt say he was smart, but atleast he is honest

:coffee:

[mundame]

atleast biden is honest, i didnt say he was smart, but atleast he is honest

:coffee:


Biden has a sort of cheerful chipperness I like. I've always sort of liked him. Of course, I'm from Maryland, and he's at least more appealing than OUR two senators.

[red states rule]

Biden has a sort of cheerful chipperness I like. I've always sort of liked him. Of course, I'm from Maryland, and he's at least more appealing than OUR two senators.

Mundame, two corpses are better then your Senators

and have more charm and wit

[mundame]

Mundame, two corpses are better then your Senators

and have more charm and wit


Yes, well, I didn't want to say it quite like THAT. http://wade.hu/smiley/kategoriak/%E1llatok/animal-smiley-016.gifBut okay.

[red states rule]

Yes, well, I didn't want to say it quite like THAT. http://wade.hu/smiley/kategoriak/%E1llatok/animal-smiley-016.gifBut okay.

When I lived in MD, the best thing out Barbara Mulski visting my town, was when she left

[red states rule]

Md is a blue state and keep electing losers like your Senators