Finally, McCain Campaign Takes Gloves Off

[red states rule]

It is about time the McCain campaign statrs talking about the obvious. This is only one of many things McCain should be hitting home about Obama


Palin hits Obama for 'terrorist' connection


ENGLEWOOD, Colorado (CNN) -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin on Saturday slammed Sen. Barack Obama's political relationship with a former anti-war radical, accusing him of associating "with terrorists who targeted their own country."

Palin's attack delivered on the McCain campaign's announcement that it would step up attacks on the Democratic presidential candidate with just a month left before the November general election.

"We see America as the greatest force for good in this world," Palin said at a fund-raising event in Colorado, adding, "Our opponent though, is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country."

Palin made similar comments later at a rally in Carson, California.

Obama's Chicago, Illinois, home is in the same neighborhood as Bill Ayers, a founder of the radical Weather Underground, which was involved in several bombings in the early 1970s, including the Pentagon and the Capitol, and the two have met several times since Obama's 1995 campaign for a state Senate seat.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/04/palin.obama/?iref=mpstoryview

[Yurt]

about time

[red states rule]

about time

Better late then never. McCain and Gov Palin needs to also talk about how Obama is for socialism, how is sof on terrorism, how government will be the "answer" to all the nations problems, how he will tax us until our eyeballs pop, and how Dems want to do to the entire country what they did to the state of MI

The debate next week would be a great time to bring up all these points

[Joe Steel]

The trouble is, McCain's credibility is so low this lie is going to look lie desperation. It will like just another lie by some so desperate he'll do anything to win.

[red states rule]

The trouble is, McCain's credibility is so low this lie is going to look lie desperation. It will like just another lie by some so desperate he'll do anything to win.

It is a fact Ayers blew up Federal buildings. He admits his guilt and is only soory he could have "done more"

I am not surprised you would not care about a domestic terrorist who bombed his own countries Federal buildings

[Joe Steel]

It is a fact Ayers blew up Federal buildings. He admits his guilt and is only soory he could have "done more"

I am not surprised you would not care about a domestic terrorist who bombed his own countries Federal buildings

It doesn't make any difference. Obama's relationship with him is meaningless. It doesn't say anything about Obama.

[red states rule]

It doesn't make any difference. Obama's relationship with him is meaningless. It doesn't say anything about Obama.

It says alot about his piss poor judgement. Ayers, Wright, and Bernadine Dohrn - people who hate America. You are known by the compnay you keep

[Yurt]

The trouble is, McCain's credibility is so low this lie is going to look lie desperation. It will like just another lie by some so desperate he'll do anything to win.

do you deny obama's connections? ayers.....etc...

[manu1959]

It doesn't make any difference. Obama's relationship with him is meaningless. It doesn't say anything about Obama.

it is meaningless to associate with someone that tried to overthrow the government......classic

[Yurt]

it is meaningless to associate with someone that tried to overthrow the government......classic

there are many, many who believe such a person is a hero

[Kathianne]

Some more coverage that the MSM refuses to print. Plenty of links, including to Saturday's NYT whitewash piece:

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2008/10/no-yards-and-a.html


No Yards And A Cloud Of Dust

Scott Shane of the NY Times presents an elegant apologia for Obama's mysterious relationship with unrepentant domestic terrorist Bill Ayers. Mr. Shane presents the bare bones of many of the allegations made by critics, thereby allowing the Times to defend this piece as fair and two-sided. However, little or no evidence is presented to support the allegations while the Obama denials and current explanations are presented uncritically. The net effect will probably be to convince many people that the Times pushed hard but simply could not find a story here.

I am not convinced and will be back with more when time permits. Meanwhile, do check out Steve Diamond, the dean of this story. I see that his post title includes the word "Whitewash", so I infer he is not pleased with the Times coverage either. I won't look at his work until I have finished my own evaluation but you should peek ahead.

HERE WE GO:

This is an example of a bare-bones allegation in the fifth paragraph:


More recently, conservative critics who accuse Mr. Obama of a stealth radical agenda have asserted that he has misleadingly minimized his relationship with Mr. Ayers, whom the candidate has dismissed as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood” and “somebody who worked on education issues in Chicago that I know.”

Why isn't a cover-up worth probing? There has been a lot more "minimizing" by the Obama campaign then suggested by Mr. Shane. Some examples include:

Obama's campaign manager David Axelrod told The Politico in February that


"Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school," he said. "They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together."

Obama told George Stepanopolous during the Democratic debate in Philadelphia that


This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

And the so-called "Fact Check" at the Obama website does not disclose that Obama and Ayers worked together on a failed education reform project from 1995 to 2001, and had probably first teamed up on education reform in 1987.

That flat lie minimization by campaign manage Axelrod is especially important because a bit later Mr. Shane offers this:


“The suggestion that Ayers was a political adviser to Obama or someone who shaped his political views is patently false,” said Ben LaBolt, a campaign spokesman. Mr. LaBolt said the men first met in 1995 through the education project, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and have encountered each other occasionally in public life or in the neighborhood.

Is Mr. LaBolt even a bit less credible given that Obama's campaign manager either lied or was misinformed on the Obama/Ayers relationship last February? Is he made less credible by the misleading "Fact Check" presented at the candidate's website? I think so, but Times readers are not in a position to judge.

I believe that Mr. LaBolt is engaging in ongoing "minimization" because there are good reasons to believe that Messrs. Obama and Ayers met in 1988 during an earlier push for school reform.

In 1988 Bill Ayers was the coordinator of the ABCs Coalition which took the lead in pushing school reform. Barack Obama's group, the Developing Communities Project, was a member of that coalition. Obama was preparing to leave for Harvard but he wrote in "Dreams of My Father" that he spent his last time in Chicago working on a city-wide push for school reform....

As I said, there are lots of links within the above and this one too. There really isn't a shortage of sources or instances or even notes to search-now that they have been 'opened'; rather it's that the msm refuses to go after the story:

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/2008/10/above_and_beyon.html


Above and beyond the crossed paths

Considering the number of posts I have written about Barack Obama's friendship and collaboration with unrepentant former Weather Underground leader Bill Ayers, I guess I should acknowledge -- however grudgingly -- that the New York Times has (on a Saturday, as Glenn noted) finally reported that the connections between these men are deeper than previously acknowledged.

In a piece titled "Nothing to see here. Move along.," Ed Morrissey does a great job of showing what a piss-poor job the Times did. His conclusion?


If John McCain had spent ten years on charitable boards with someone less egregious than abortion bombers -- say, with Randall Terry of Operation Rescue -- the New York Times would have Page One, in-depth reporting, complete with teams of reporters combing through the minutes of the board meetings. Hell, the New York Times infamously smeared McCain with allegations of a sexual affair based on nothing but gossip from two disgruntled ex-staffers last February, and spent days rolling that out, using four reporters on the story. For the Obama/Ayers connection, they have Scott Shane telling us that there's nothing to see here.
Great reporting. Thanks for nothing.

The Times piece reduces years of meetings, years of work on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, wears of work on the board of the Woods Foundation, joint seminars in which they were panelists together, and even the launching of Obama's state assembly race, as instances of "crossed paths." (The title of the piece -- "Obama and '60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths" is itself a giveaway.)

What the presence of this story in the Times means, I'm not sure. It could be that the story has gotten too big to ignore. Then again, it could be a sort of CYA, as if the Times doesn't want it said that they failed to report the story at all.

I think it's quite obvious that Obama and Ayers had to have known each other before 1995, as the Times asserts. But as Tom Maguire points out, they're resolutely holding the line at 1995....

Fascinatingly, Stanley Kurtz (whose investigation into the CAC led to the story breaking) even sees a coverup at work inside the Times story itself:


How could a responsible article on the topic of Obama, Ayers, and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge ignore the story of the blocked library access and the results of the two FOIA requests? How could a responsible paper fail to aggressively follow up on the questions raised by those requests, and by the documents and analysis presented by Steve Diamond?

Most remarkably of all, Shane seems to paper over the results of his own questioning. On the one hand, toward the end of the piece we read: "Since 2002, there is little public evidence of their relationship." And it's no wonder, says Shane, since Ayers was caught expressing no regret for his own past terrorism in an article published on September 11, 2001. Yet earlier in Shane's article we learn that, according to Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt, Obama and Ayers "have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Mr. Obama began serving in the United States Senate in January 2005." Very interesting. Obama's own spokesman has just left open the possibility that there has indeed been phone and e-mail contact between the two men between 2002 and 2004, well after Ayers' infamous conduct on 9/11. Yet instead of pursuing this opening, Shane ignores the findings of his own investigation and covers for Obama.

Wow. Imagine ignoring the results of your own investigation!

Those guys at the Times take being above and beyond the call of duty quite literally.
posted by Eric on 10.04.08 at 06:04 PM

[Kathianne]

Why indeed? If the MSM has any hope of acquitting itself this election cycle, the answer is easy enough:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjhhOTM1MThhOTNjZWNiZWU2MmEwZjE3YjQwNjE4NjU=


Re: NYT’s Ayers-Obama Whitewash [Ed Whelan]

A quick follow-up to Stanley’s post: Isn’t it about time that campaign reporters demand live answers from Obama himself, rather than from uninformed campaign aides, about the basics of his relationship with Bill Ayers?

For starters: When did you first meet Bill Ayers? When did you first meet Bernardine Dohrn? When did you first learn that they were unrepentant terrorists? Did you ever tell either of them that you condemned their terrorist activities? Did you ever express reservations to anyone about serving on boards with Ayers? About funding his radical educational initiatives? About having him host a political reception for you? About accepting a campaign contribution from him? How many times have you or your wife been in his home? How many times have he or Dohrn been in yours? Did you meet with Ayers before becoming chair of the CAC board? When did you last have any communication with Ayers or Dohrn?



And so on. Get to work.

10/04 04:43 PM

[Joe Steel]

do you deny obama's connections? ayers.....etc...

I have no idea if Obama assciated with them but that seems to the consensus.

Aren't you straying from the party line?

Didn't Miss Wasilla tell you to look to the future not the past? "Say it ain't so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again...Now doggone it, let's look ahead and tell Americans what we have to plan to do for them in the future."

[Joe Steel]

it is meaningless to associate with someone that tried to overthrow the government......classic

Obama's not...at least, not violently.

[jimnyc]

I have no idea if Obama assciated with them but that seems to the consensus.

Aren't you straying from the party line?

Didn't Miss Wasilla tell you to look to the future not the past? "Say it ain't so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again...Now doggone it, let's look ahead and tell Americans what we have to plan to do for them in the future."

Maybe we should just forget about the terrorists around the world too. Don't look in the past, right?

I believe she was speaking of partisan politics and the current economic situation - NOT about terrorists or those that support them.

But I'm glad to see that once again you're posting about something you know nothing about! :laugh2:

[Joe Steel]

Maybe we should just forget about the terrorists around the world too. Don't look in the past, right?

I believe she was speaking of partisan politics and the current economic situation - NOT about terrorists or those that support them.

But I'm glad to see that once again you're posting about something you know nothing about! :laugh2:

Will your interest in and focus on the past include McCain's collaboration with the North Vietnamese and abandonment of American POW-MIAs? All that's from the Ayers era, too.

[jimnyc]

Will your interest in and focus on the past include McCain's collaboration with the North Vietnamese and abandonment of American POW-MIAs? All that's from the Ayers era, too.

The difference is that there is PROOF that Obama befriended a known domestic terrorist. Now can you please provide positive proof of what you accuse McCain of?

[retiredman]

The difference is that there is PROOF that Obama befriended a known domestic terrorist. Now can you please provide positive proof of what you accuse McCain of?
McCain has admitted signing a confession which implicated America in war crimes.

[jimnyc]

McCain has admitted signing a confession which implicated America in war crimes.

Which we all know wasn't the truth and he was a POW being tortured to the likes that we have never seen. But only a LYING scumbag like you would try and denigrate his service and the ordeal he went through while a POW. At least the man didn't lie about his service.

[Gaffer]

McCain has admitted signing a confession which implicated America in war crimes.

Party over fellow service men too huh? Your a real piece of work mfm. obamanation got endorsements, fund raising and even a job through ayers. He didn't get tortured once. He willfully and gladly sold his soul.

McCain needs to stop the mister nice guy routine now and really go after obamanation. The msm won't cover it so put it all in ads. There is so much out there the McCain camp doesn't even have to dig for it. It's past time to go for the throat.

[jimnyc]

Party over fellow service men too huh?

What did you expect from a man who lies about being a preacher, lies about being in the service and then admits he pays lying dishonest games with our political system?

[Classact]

The trouble is, McCain's credibility is so low this lie is going to look lie desperation. It will like just another lie by some so desperate he'll do anything to win.The country is in desperate with the bailout and are looking for a leader to fix it... I think all Americans realize the left caused the problem thinking like Obama http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/oct/04/obama-loves-sub-prime-lending/ and realize that Republicans didn't scream at the top of their voices to point out the impending doom the libs have created along with the greed of bankers... everyone knows they didn't scream because palms were greased by lobbyist... so to bring up character is a proper topic when one considers which candidate will actually do something about "the problem" rather than promise money for votes like they promised houses for those who couldn't afford them...

McCain should bring a copy of Ayers book cover where he is standing on a flag to the debate and ask the American people do you have friends like this? Then mention these pukes worked together in Chicago to brainwash school children and their brainwashing program failed.

[red states rule]

Party over fellow service men too huh? Your a real piece of work mfm. obamanation got endorsements, fund raising and even a job through ayers. He didn't get tortured once. He willfully and gladly sold his soul.

McCain needs to stop the mister nice guy routine now and really go after obamanation. The msm won't cover it so put it all in ads. There is so much out there the McCain camp doesn't even have to dig for it. It's past time to go for the throat.

McCain is finally seeing he can't run a PC campaign against the Chicago street thug, and the hacks like MFM who support him

Now to take the heat off his messiah and the anti American trash that backs him, MFM now has to smear the service of McCain. This is another example of MFM's party over country, and the "support" he has always shown the troops

Remember, he did call the troops in Iraq infidels

[retiredman]

Which we all know wasn't the truth and he was a POW being tortured to the likes that we have never seen. But only a LYING scumbag like you would try and denigrate his service and the ordeal he went through while a POW. At least the man didn't lie about his service.

I never said he lied about his service... AND I HAVE NEVER LIED ABOUT MINE. I never said he wasn't tortured. I never said that wasn't an honorable man. YOU merely asked a question for some proof of what had been alleged. I pointed out there was a document which, whether signed under duress or not, does indeed provide some proof to the allegation.

[retiredman]

What did you expect from a man who lies about being a preacher, lies about being in the service and then admits he pays lying dishonest games with our political system?

dial it back jimbo. I have not lied about anything and I never admitted to lying or being dishonest in my politics.

[red states rule]

I never said he lied about his service... AND I HAVE NEVER LIED ABOUT MINE. I never said he wasn't tortured. I never said that wasn't an honorable man. YOU merely asked a question for some proof of what had been alleged. I pointed out there was a document which, whether signed under duress or not, does indeed provide some proof to the allegation.

You have lied about Mccains service with your smears and attacks. I also think you have lied about your service. With your smug and arrogant attitude, I do not see how anyone serving uder you would like you - let alone respect you

The one thing that is consistent about you MFM is the lies do keep coming in large numbers

[GW in Ohio]

McCain is starting on the personal attacks because he's behind. Ohio and Florida are in play, but Obama is ahead in both states, and the trend is that Obama doesn't lose ground; he only gains it, steadily...inexorably.....

McCain and Palin will now renounce any claims they have to integrity. They will start using bullshit personal attacks that will reflect on them more than on Obama.

Look for McCain and his sock puppet Palin to start falling even further behind. And the farther behind they get, the nastier their desperate attacks will become.

Doesn't it embarrass some of you to be Republicans?

[jimnyc]

McCain is starting on the personal attacks because he's behind. Ohio and Florida are in play, but Obama is ahead in both states, and the trend is that Obama doesn't lose ground; he only gains it, steadily...inexorably.....

McCain and Palin will now renounce any claims they have to integrity. They will start using bullshit personal attacks that will reflect on them more than on Obama.

Look for McCain and his sock puppet Palin to start falling even further behind. And the farther behind they get, the nastier their desperate attacks will become.

Doesn't it embarrass some of you to be Republicans?

And the Obama campaign has now stated they will reply in kind starting today. Are you embarrassed at them sinking to the level you speak out against?

[GW in Ohio]

And the Obama campaign has now stated they will reply in kind starting today. Are you embarrassed at them sinking to the level you speak out against?

jim: For the Obama camp not to respond in kind would be stupid.

When the Bush goons and hacks swift-boated Kerry, he thought he would take the high road. He did, and he got whacked.

The point is, it's the McCain camp that is bringing the tone of the campaign down.

The problem for them, though, is that all this crap about trying to associate Obama with unsavory characters like Tony Rezko has already been done. It was lame during the primaries and it's even lamer now.

Mark my words, the negative personal shit will reflect more on McCain and his sock puppet than on Obama.

[Nukeman]

And the Obama campaign has now stated they will reply in kind starting today. Are you embarrassed at them sinking to the level you speak out against?Why NO Jim they don't see it as "stooping' low they see it as the truth. Unless of course it is about their own candidate, then its a bunch of lies, even when you can point to FACTS!!!!

[red states rule]

jim: For the Obama camp not to respond in kind would be stupid.

When the Bush goons and hacks swift-boated Kerry, he thought he would take the high road. He did, and he got whacked.

The point is, it's the McCain camp that is bringing the tone of the campaign down.

The problem for them, though, is that all this crap about trying to associate Obama with unsavory characters like Tony Rezko has already been done. It was lame during the primaries and it's even lamer now.

Mark my words, the negative personal shit will reflect more on McCain and his sock puppet than on Obama.

I want to see Ayers own words used in some ads

No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen

''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago. The long curly locks in his Wanted poster are shorn, though he wears earrings. He still has tattooed on his neck the rainbow-and-lightning Weathermen logo that appeared on letters taking responsibility for bombings. And he still has the ebullient, ingratiating manner, the apparently intense interest in other people, that made him a charismatic figure in the radical student movement.

Now he has written a book, ''Fugitive Days'' (Beacon Press, September). Mr. Ayers, who is 56, calls it a memoir, somewhat coyly perhaps, since he also says some of it is fiction. He writes that he participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, the Pentagon in 1972. But Mr. Ayers also seems to want to have it both ways, taking responsibility for daring acts in his youth, then deflecting it.

''Is this, then, the truth?,'' he writes. ''Not exactly. Although it feels entirely honest to me.''

But why would someone want to read a memoir parts of which are admittedly not true? Mr. Ayers was asked.

''Obviously, the point is it's a reflection on memory,'' he answered. ''It's true as I remember it.''

Mr. Ayers is probably safe from prosecution anyway. A spokeswoman for the Justice Department said there was a five-year statute of limitations on Federal crimes except in cases of murder or when a person has been indicted.

Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as: ''Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at,'' is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. And he says he doesn't actually remember suggesting that rich people be killed or that people kill their parents, but ''it's been quoted so many times I'm beginning to think I did,'' he said. ''It was a joke about the distribution of wealth.''

He went underground in 1970, after his girlfriend, Diana Oughton, and two other people were killed when bombs they were making exploded in a Greenwich Village town house. With him in the Weather Underground was Bernardine Dohrn, who was put on the F.B.I.'s 10 Most Wanted List. J. Edgar Hoover called her ''the most dangerous woman in America'' and ''la Pasionara of the Lunatic Left.'' Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn later married.

In his book Mr. Ayers describes the Weathermen descending into a ''whirlpool of violence.''

''Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon,'' he writes. But then comes a disclaimer: ''Even though I didn't actually bomb the Pentagon -- we bombed it, in the sense that Weathermen organized it and claimed it.'' He goes on to provide details about the manufacture of the bomb and how a woman he calls Anna placed the bomb in a restroom. No one was killed or injured, though damage was extensive.

Between 1970 and 1974 the Weathermen took responsibility for 12 bombings, Mr. Ayers writes, and also helped spring Timothy Leary (sentenced on marijuana charges) from jail

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B 63

[Immanuel]

When talking about the Obama/Ayers situation and listening to Barack Obama whine about Gov. Palin mentioning the relationship over the weekend, the cliche, "the truth hurts", becomes quite scary.

Why would Barack Obama be so upset about the relationshp being made public? Why would he be so concerned about his relationship with Jeremiah Wright?

It is kind of freaky seeing him freak out over this. Is there really something there?

Immie

[red states rule]

When talking about the Obama/Ayers situation and listening to Barack Obama whine about Gov. Palin mentioning the relationship over the weekend, the cliche, "the truth hurts", becomes quite scary.

Why would Barack Obama be so upset about the relationshp being made public? Why would he be so concerned about his relationship with Jeremiah Wright?

It is kind of freaky seeing him freak out over this. Is there really something there?

Immie

Obama and his supporters do NOT wnat the relationship talked about. Who in their right mind Immie, would even speak to a terrorist who is proud of his past?

Perhaps those who agree with him, and share his views?

[GW in Ohio]

Obama and his supporters do NOT wnat the relationship talked about. Who in their right mind Immie, would even speak to a terrorist who is proud of his past?

Perhaps those who agree with him, and share his views?

The "guilt by association" thing only has currency within right-wing circles.

The reaction of everyone else is a giant

:gives:

[red states rule]

The "guilt by association" thing only has currency within right-wing circles.

The reaction of everyone else is a giant

:gives:

No, it is guilt by participation. Obama calls this punk a friend, and has taken his political support

Would you be friends with someone who belw up federal buildings, and told the NYT he was not sorry and wished he could have done more?

[red states rule]

Now the liberal media plays the race card. How the hell is this racist?

Analysis: Palin's words carry racial tinge

WASHINGTON (AP) - By claiming that Democrat Barack Obama is "palling around with terrorists" and doesn't see the U.S. like other Americans, vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin targeted key goals for a faltering campaign.
And though she may have scored a political hit each time, her attack was unsubstantiated and carried a racially tinged subtext that John McCain himself may come to regret.

First, Palin's attack shows that her energetic debate with rival Joe Biden may be just the beginning, not the end, of a sharpened role in the battle to win the presidency.

"Our opponent ... is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country," Palin told a group of donors in Englewood, Colo. A deliberate attempt to smear Obama, McCain's ticket-mate echoed the line at three separate events Saturday.

"This is not a man who sees America like you and I see America," she said. "We see America as a force of good in this world. We see an America of exceptionalism."

Her reference to Obama's relationship with William Ayers, a member of the Vietnam-era Weather Underground, was exaggerated at best if not outright false. No evidence shows they were "pals" or even close when they worked on community boards years ago and Ayers hosted a political event for Obama early in his career.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93KD6Q00&show_article=1

[Immanuel]

The "guilt by association" thing only has currency within right-wing circles.

The reaction of everyone else is a giant

:gives:

The point is that HE is afraid of it. Is it because there is something there? A man with his political aspirations all his life, should have learned early how to choose his friends. Seems to me, like he did learn and that is frightening.

Maybe rather than asking if William Ayers has changed his philosophy, one should ask if Barack Obama has changed his?

Immie

[red states rule]

The point is that HE is afraid of it. Is it because there is something there? A man with his political aspirations all his life, should have learned early how to choose his friends. Seems to me, like he did learn and that is frightening.

Maybe rather than asking if William Ayers has changed his philosophy, one should ask if Barack Obama has changed his?

Immie

Meanwhile the liberal media is defending Obama, and now AP is tagging GOv palin as a racist for pointing out the association

Ayers is not sorry, and once said "Guilty as sin....Free as a bird"

[Yurt]

The "guilt by association" thing only has currency within right-wing circles.

The reaction of everyone else is a giant

:gives:

of course, you support folks like ayers

[red states rule]

of course, you support folks like ayers

As does the liberal media

Finger-Wagging Smith Scolds McCain Rep Over NYT Ayers Article
By Mark Finkelstein (Bio | Archive)
October 6, 2008 - 09:21 ET

Good thing Nancy Pfotenhauer wasn't in the same studio with Harry Smith this morning. The Early Show anchor might have broken out his hickory stick. Like a hectoring school marm, Smith scolded McCain adviser Pfotenhauer for what he deemed her insufficient citation of a New York Times article tracing Barack Obama's affiliation with unrepentant terrorist William Ayers.

Wagging a stern finger at Pfotenhauer across the airwaves, Smith repeatedly interrupted her, demanding "what was the conclusion, what was the conclusion

HARRY SMITH: Nancy, you guys drudge [sic] up Bill Ayers, Gibbs & Co. [Obama campaign] is going to drudge up Charles Keating. Do either of these steps back into the past help answer the question who best to lead, which is the decision America has to make in less than a month?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/10/06/finger-wagging-smith-scolds-mccain-rep-over-nyt-ayers-article