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avatar4321
10-09-2008, 12:04 PM
McCain has released a web ad on the Ayers issue:

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Multimedia/Player.aspx?guid=9a48c156-ad6a-40bd-9381-98ddf66ec77a

Some other groups have as well:

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I think there are legitimate questions here. We cant let this drop.

stephanie
10-09-2008, 12:08 PM
I'm not sure what good it does if it's only on the web??

avatar4321
10-09-2008, 12:11 PM
I'm not sure what good it does if it's only on the web??

well, i think it can be very good if we spread it around. I sent it up on myspace. hopefully a few people will pass it on.

stephanie
10-09-2008, 12:15 PM
well, i think it can be very good if we spread it around. I sent it up on myspace. hopefully a few people will pass it on.


:cheers2:

Noir
10-09-2008, 12:30 PM
I'm not sure what good it does if it's only on the web??

true, it seems a good ad, but it just seems weak if they are not going to commit to it, most odd.

Immanuel
10-09-2008, 01:23 PM
well, i think it can be very good if we spread it around. I sent it up on myspace. hopefully a few people will pass it on.

Have they blocked it yet?

Immie

MtnBiker
10-09-2008, 01:31 PM
Obama sure does have to distance himself from alot of his aquintances and past actions.

Yurt
10-09-2008, 01:34 PM
just a guy in my neighborhood......right


November 4, 1997
Ayers will be joined by Illinois State Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the University of Chicago Law School, who is working to block proposed legislation that would throw more juvenile offenders into the adult system; Randolph Stone, Director of the Mandel Legal Aid Clinic at the University of Chicago; Alex Correa, a reformed juvenile offender who spent 7 years in Cook County Temporary Detention Center; Frank Tobin, a former priest and teacher in the Detention Center who helped Correa; and Willy Baldwin, who grew up in public housing and is currently a teacher in the Detention Center

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/97/971104.juvenile.justice.shtml

Kathianne
10-10-2008, 06:51 AM
just a guy in my neighborhood......right



http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/97/971104.juvenile.justice.shtml

I've been saying they share a common philosophical viewpoint. There are links at site. For anyone that wants to peruse some Ayers' writings, advance search: Ayers domain: edu. or org. :

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YmU4NDA5ZmY5OGU5NjhlNTkzNjU3MzFmNmQwOGQ3MTY=


Friday, October 10, 2008

Re: "Memory is a Motherf—ker" [Andy McCarthy]

Byron is quite right about statutes of limitations — in most states, there is no SofL on murder. But for most federal crimes, the SofL is 5 years — we're long, long beyond it.

And, of course, what Ayers has is selective memory, not failed memory. When he was more haughty about his terrorist exploits, he wrote, for example: “Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon. The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them.” If it was this easy to get witnesses to perceive, recall and relate, I might have stayed in the trial lawyer biz. Dohrn, too, had a keen sense of detail, gushing over the barbaric Manson Family murders: “Dig it! First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim’s stomach! Wild!”

But the larger point is this: We are too hung up on the word terrorist. Yes, Ayers was a terrorist, but he's not anymore in the sense that he hasn't bombed anything in a long time. He is, however, and he has always been, a radical leftist revolutionary. Don't take my word for it — he proudly says it himself, as I detailed in this post yesterday.

That was the ideology that drove him to bomb American targets, it is the ideology he has taken to America's classrooms (which are just a different front in the same war he has been raging against our society for 40 years), it is the ideology he has never hidden from anyone, and — here's the point — it is the ideology that drove his partnership with Barack Obama. That's the reason Obama is minimizing the relationship. Obama and Ayers worked well together — happily funding the same communists, socialists, America haters, Israel haters, etc. — because they were ideologically aligned. Obama is smoother and more marketable than Ayers, but ideologically they're coming from the same place: American society needs drastic change. And if you want to know the change Obama and Ayers have in mind, look at what they did at the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Look at Obama's Chicago years, which explains why Ayers and Dohrn would host the launching of his political career from their living room. That's where Obama doesn't want to go — because if voters look there, he's toast.

10/10 06:02 AM