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Sitarro
10-23-2008, 11:49 AM
This shit head can't buy a Presidency over a 72 year old for 605 MILLION DOLLARS??????? He wants 10 dollars more from everyone????? And this is the genius you clowns want spending our tax dollars???? Pathetic, this low life piece of shit owes everyone, especially George Soros.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/obama-money.html



With $605 million already, Obama asks only $10 more from each of us
Having hauled in a record $208,333 every hour of every day last month -- $150 million in all -- plus a few more unreported millions so far this month, Barack Obama is worried that he might come up short in the political money war with the John McCain-Sarah Palin ticket.

Just to relieve himself of that $150 million before the polls open, Obama will have to spend $12.5 million a day.



But he needs some more.

And, according to an e-mail plea to supporters, tonight's the absolute deadline to donate $10 more and receive your special edition Official Obama-Biden car magnet.

Having now collected more than $605 million altogether, the freshman senator shows no concern over the appearance of buying the presidency. Imagine for a moment the national political conversation that could be going on now if rich Republicans had raked in that much loot for one campaign.

Obama's team is so well-funded and well-organized it has spread its political web into one-time red states, forcing McCain to defend them with his measly $84.1 million in federal funds.

Obama aides privately profess profound concern that additional financial resources from the Republican National Committee could make the GOP ticket competitive in the closing days. And the Cincinatti Bengals are a real Super Bowl threat this year.

"The race is deadlocked in a number of crucial battleground states," the urgent e-mail proclaims, "including Ohio, Missouri and Indiana. And we're neck-and-neck in Florida, North Carolina and Nevada.

"We have to make our final, tough decisions about where to fight and how strong we can make our team. And those choices will depend on the financial resources we have."

retiredman
10-23-2008, 12:19 PM
actually, I think the overkill in funding is designed to lengthen the coattails. If we get 60 senators, we can wipe away most of the stench of Bush before the spring time. And I think Hillary would be an excellent replacement for Justice Stevens, don't you?

Yurt
10-23-2008, 12:28 PM
what happens to the surplus funds after election?

Immanuel
10-23-2008, 12:29 PM
what happens to the surplus funds after election?

Bet he doesn't "spread the wealth".

Immie

Sitarro
10-23-2008, 12:34 PM
actually, I think the overkill in funding is designed to lengthen the coattails. If we get 60 senators, we can wipe away most of the stench of Bush before the spring time. And I think Hillary would be an excellent replacement for Justice Stevens, don't you?

On what grounds would the former wife of a lousy President, a door mat, a failed Presidential campaigner, a weak ass lawyer who hasn't practiced in 2 decades and an ineffectual Senator, qualify for the Supreme Court. And you people were whining about Harriet Miers, at least she was a practicing attorney for the President of the United States.

You become a bigger joke with every post. You will even justify spending over a half BILLION dollars to try to get into the White House....... pathetic. George Soros did say he would spend a billion to get rid of George Bush and presumedly put a person of his choice to front for him as President.

retiredman
10-23-2008, 12:37 PM
On what grounds would the former wife of a lousy President, a door mat, a failed Presidential campaigner, a weak ass lawyer who hasn't practiced in 2 decades and an ineffectual Senator, qualify for the Supreme Court. And you people were whining about Harriet Miers, at least she was a practicing attorney for the President of the United States.

You become a bigger joke with every post. You will even justify spending over a half BILLION dollars to try to get into the White House....... pathetic. George Soros did say he would spend a billion to get rid of George Bush and presumedly put a person of his choice to front for him as President.

Hillary Clinton is a practicing attorney and a wise politician. What judicial qualifications did Earl Warren possess before Eisenhower nominated HIM to be Chief Justice?

Noir
10-23-2008, 12:41 PM
who cares? He can ask for as much money as he wants, and it's up to the indivdual to decide wheathe to donate or not, their choice.

Sitarro
10-23-2008, 12:47 PM
Hillary Clinton is a practicing attorney and a wise politician. What judicial qualifications did Earl Warren possess before Eisenhower nominated HIM to be Chief Justice?

A wise politician who was the assumed Presidential candidate and still lost to a punk little faggot with 143 days experience showing up, kind of, to the Senate........ I wouldn't even call that a "soso" politician. Where is Hillary practicing law?
I don't give a shit about Earl Warren, stay in the here and now if you can. What does the wife of a former lousy President bring to the Supreme Court and why would being a politician be a qualification for Judgeship?:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

Sitarro
10-23-2008, 12:51 PM
who cares? He can ask for as much money as he wants, and it's up to the indivdual to decide wheathe to donate or not, their choice.

I care. Are you that naive to believe the bull shit that 605 MILLION DOLLARS was collected by the poor sending 5 dollars a piece that they recycled aluminum cans to get? George Soros is the major backing of the skinny punk asswipe from Chicago, capital city of corrupt politics.

Noir
10-23-2008, 01:05 PM
the thread is about obama asking everyone for $10 more no? So I don't see where George the puck fits into the $10 request.

Sitarro
10-23-2008, 01:16 PM
the thread is about obama asking everyone for $10 more no? So I don't see where George the puck fits into the $10 request.

You don't find it a bit repulsive that someone that brought in 150 MILLION DOLLARS last month is asking for more? McCain is working with 84 Million, total, public funding....... the same funding that Barry pledged to take until he talked to Soros, then he broke his promise. He is a liar and a cheat and been that way his whole life.

Gaffer
10-23-2008, 01:19 PM
the thread is about obama asking everyone for $10 more no? So I don't see where George the puck fits into the $10 request.

Because someone that contributes $10 doesn't get named in reporting it, and soros can add another $1989 to that donation with none being the wiser. All they need are the names of contributors. How much is contributed is irrelevant. And besides he needs the money to pay for his satellite channel and the flood of commercials he is going to run. Plus all those bribes to pay for. It all gets real expensive.

Yurt
10-23-2008, 01:33 PM
who cares? He can ask for as much money as he wants, and it's up to the indivdual to decide wheathe to donate or not, their choice.

what happens to all the surplus money people donated for the campaign, once the campaign is over? does he give it back?

red states rule
10-23-2008, 01:36 PM
and Obama broke his promise to go with public financing, the libs yawned, and now they are giddy over the money he is raising

I remember the outrage in 2000 and 2004 when Pres Bush was the guy who was raising the money and these same libs were outraged over the amount of money being spent

manu1959
10-23-2008, 01:38 PM
what happens to all the surplus money people donated for the campaign, once the campaign is over? does he give it back?

presidential library.....

red states rule
10-23-2008, 01:40 PM
presidential library.....

or for Obama monuments in all 57 states

Yurt
10-23-2008, 01:40 PM
and Obama broke his promise to go with public financing, the libs yawned, and now they are giddy over the money he is raising

I remember the outrage in 2000 and 2004 when Pres Bush was the guy who was raising the money and these same libs were outraged over the amount of money being spent

that is true, good point

red states rule
10-23-2008, 01:58 PM
Here is how libs reacted when it was Pres Bush raising the cash



President Bush Prepares To Drown 2004 Presidential Race in Campaign Money; Demonstrates Importance of Fixing Presidential Campaign Financing System

Tuesday, July 08, 2003

With President Bush’s effort underway to raise $200 million in campaign contributions for his uncontested presidential primary election, the presidential public financing system enacted in the wake of the Watergate scandal is about to be swamped.
The Bush fundraising drive is dramatizing the need to fix this system for the future.

In testimony on January 31, 2003 before a blue ribbon panel created by the Campaign Finance Institute, Democracy 21 President Fred Wertheimer pointed out that repairing the presidential system is not “a matter of finding substantive solutions to the problems that exist,” but rather of “whether the political will exists to fix a system that has served our nation well.” At stake here, Wertheimer noted, “is a fundamental question for Americans: Just whose presidency is this, the citizens’ or the contributors’?”

In his testimony, Wertheimer presented a proposal developed by Democracy 21 and Common Cause to reform the presidential public financing system. (Wertheimer’s testimony and the reform proposal are available at www.democracy21.org. The proposal is also summarized beginning on page 3 of this report.)

Two Commissioners of the Federal Election Commission, Democrat Scott Thomas and Republican Michael Toner also have presented a proposal for reforming the presidential financing system. (Op-ed articles by Thomas and Toner on their reform proposal appeared in The New York Times on July 1, 2003 and The Washington Post on July 6, 2003, respectively, and are available at www.democracy21.org.)

In order to raise $200 million, President Bush has established a new elite group of fundraisers, known as the Rangers, who are responsible for raising at least $200,000 each for the 2004 Bush primary race. For their efforts, this elite core of “big” fundraisers will receive special access and influence, undermining a principal goal of the presidential financing system – to prevent campaign money from buying presidential influence.

To raise $200 million, furthermore, Bush fundraisers will focus heavily on $2,000 donors instead of on the smaller contributors the presidential primary system is designed to encourage by matching contributions up to $250 with public funds. They will turn to Corporate America for these contributions, and to “bundled” $2,000 contributions from a number of business executives of a company or an industry with interests pending in Washington, again undermining the presidential system.

In other words, in raising an unprecedented, unnecessary and excessive $200 million for an uncontested presidential primary race, President Bush is undermining the financing system designed to protect the integrity of the office he holds.

http://www.democracy21.org/index.asp?Type=B_PR&SEC=%7BFD714569-5FB3-45D6-82D4-A3098EE124BA%7D&DE=%7BEE1AC154-FCFE-4386-B49D-E56B57A5E7CC%7D

retiredman
10-23-2008, 02:04 PM
man... you guys sure are a bunch of whiners!:lol:

Noir
10-23-2008, 02:06 PM
You don't find it a bit repulsive that someone that brought in 150 MILLION DOLLARS last month is asking for more? McCain is working with 84 Million, total, public funding....... the same funding that Barry pledged to take until he talked to Soros, then he broke his promise. He is a liar and a cheat and been that way his whole life.


No I don't find it repulsive, he is allows to ask as much as he wants and revive whatever he gets given, are you suggesting that Obama has steped over the limit, if so what is the limit? Would it be ok if he'd raised 80 mil? What about 90? Or 100?...

red states rule
10-23-2008, 02:07 PM
man... you guys sure are a bunch of whiners!:lol:

I am not whining - just pointing out the double standard on the part of the left

Besdies, Obama flip flopped on his promise to take public financing, and libs like you yawned

retiredman
10-23-2008, 02:11 PM
I am not whining - just pointing out the double standard on the part of the left

Besdies, Obama flip flopped on his promise to take public financing, and libs like you yawned

he realized he could do better by not taking it. I don't blame him. Bush promised not to do any nation building but I never heard YOU criticize him for flip flopping. things change. situations change. deal with it.

and deal with an impending Obama landslide and LOOOOONG coattails!

yippeee!!!!

Immanuel
10-23-2008, 02:12 PM
he realized he could do better by not taking it. I don't blame him. Bush promised not to do any nation building but I never heard YOU criticize him for flip flopping. things change. situations change. deal with it.

and deal with an impending Obama landslide and LOOOOONG coattails!

yippeee!!!!

You forgot Socialism.

Immie

red states rule
10-23-2008, 02:12 PM
he realized he could do better by not taking it. I don't blame him. Bush promised not to do any nation building but I never heard YOU criticize him for flip flopping. things change. situations change. deal with it.

and deal with an impending Obama landslide and LOOOOONG coattails!

yippeee!!!!

Yet when Pres Bush did the same in 2004, you libs had a collective cow.

Like so many of Obama's lies and flip flops, as long as it benefits your party, you look the other way

Noir
10-23-2008, 02:17 PM
Yet when Pres Bush did the same in 2004, you libs had a collective cow.

Like so many of Obama's lies and flip flops, as long as it benefits your party, you look the other way

Fair enough if they did, but now you are about Obama...pot...kettle...black?...

retiredman
10-23-2008, 02:18 PM
Yet when Pres Bush did the same in 2004, you libs had a collective cow.

Like so many of Obama's lies and flip flops, as long as it benefits your party, you look the other way


I don't consider his reconsideration of ways to fund his presidential campaign to be a problem in any way. If he significantly changed his position on health care or education or Iraq, I would definitely have issues.

Your article about Bush had to do with his raising money for a primary campaign when he had no opponents, by the way.

Immanuel
10-23-2008, 02:19 PM
Fair enough if they did, but now you are about Obama...pot...kettle...black?...

He forgets the Clinton years and what the right wing (I'm as guilty as the next right winger) did to Clinton. It is just a vicious cycle.

Immie

GW in Ohio
10-23-2008, 02:53 PM
I thought Cheney had dibs on the title:

The Dick

:thanks: :salute: :thanks:

Noir
10-23-2008, 02:56 PM
He forgets the Clinton years and what the right wing (I'm as guilty as the next right winger) did to Clinton. It is just a vicious cycle.

Immie

I fear I do not memo those times either, cus I was like 8, what happened?

Immanuel
10-23-2008, 02:59 PM
I fear I do not memo those times either, cus I was like 8, what happened?

Long story... but let's just say that the phrase what comes around goes around applies to the treatment of the left and the right. Who's to say who started it? But, according to the right (of which I was a part) the scum of the earth was better than Bill Clinton.

Immie

Noir
10-23-2008, 03:04 PM
I thought Cheney had dibs on the title:

The Dick

:thanks: :salute: :thanks:

Cheney 'the dick' and George W. 'the bush'
Just as nature intended...