ATF Stops Obama Assassination Attempt

[red states rule]

Fox News is reporting the ATF stopped a skinhead plot to kill Sen Obama. they were picked up in TN

[red states rule]

Government Foils Skinhead Plot to Assassinate Obama
Skinheads planned to kill Obama and 102 others in Tennessee.


http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/27/government-foils-skinhead-plot-assassinate-obama/

[hjmick]

Yeah, I posted this a few minutes ago. Perhaps a staff member could merge the two threads?

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=19105

[red states rule]

Yeah, I posted this a few minutes ago. Perhaps a staff member could merge the two threads?

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=19105

Sorry. I looked yet mssed it

You are fast my friend

[hjmick]

No need for an apology, it happens.

As for fast, not really, just bored...

[red states rule]

No need for an apology, it happens.

As for fast, not really, just bored...

Back to the topic - I do hope they nail these punks to the wall. Lock them up, and lelt down the key

A lifetime stay at a Supermax prison seems fair to me

[hjmick]

Let them share a cell with some large black men.

[red states rule]

Let them share a cell with some large black men.

a Mr T type guy would be perfect

[theHawk]

What does the 88 and 14 represent?

[Mr. P]

Back to the topic - I do hope they nail these punks to the wall. Lock them up, and lelt down the key

A lifetime stay at a Supermax prison seems fair to me

I agree. Now, I'd like to see em sent to gitmo and see what the left nut reaction would be..not a peep I bet.

[hjmick]

What does the 88 and 14 represent?

According to the Urban Dictionary, "14" represents the 14 words written by David Lane (whoever he is), "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."


"88" refers to 88 words from Mein Kampf about the supremacy of the white race.

Though there is some diference of opinion as to the meaning of "88," another opinion states that "88" represents David Lane's 88 precepts, or sometimes the eighth letter in the alphabet (H), to represent Heil Hitler.

[LiberalNation]

I agree. Now, I'd like to see em sent to gitmo and see what the left nut reaction would be..not a peep I bet.

There would be a peep, you don't throw out one value because the attackers are alleged to go after someone you like.

[Little-Acorn]

Fox News is reporting the ATF stopped a skinhead plot to kill Sen Obama.
Pretty noteable accomplishment for a bunch of tax clerks. Kudoes on a good job, well done!

But where was the FBI, our law-enforcement arm?

Don't tell me the ATF tax agency has gone outside its charter. Next thing you know, those tax guys will start carrying guns or something. Pretty silly, eh. Thank God THAT will never happen.

[red states rule]

Pretty noteable accomplishment for a bunch of tax clerks. Kudoes on a good job, well done!

But where was the FBI, our law-enforcement arm?

Don't tell me the ATF tax agency has gone outside its charter. Next thing you know, those tax guys will start carrying guns or something. Pretty silly, eh. Thank God THAT will never happen.

I do not care who stopped the threat. As much as I dislike Obama, I do not want anyone using a bullet to stop someone from becoming President

[Mr. P]

There would be a peep, you don't throw out one value because the attackers are alleged to go after someone you like.

Two words...BILL CLINTON..

You ain't got a case kid.:poke:

[red states rule]

Two words...BILL CLINTON..

You ain't got a case kid.:poke:

Or put them in with OJ

He has experience in killing white people, and getting away with it

[Psychoblues]

Just a case of very typical and extremely dumbass rabid racist reichwingers. I think they call themselves neoNazis.

:salute::cheers2::clap::laugh2::cheers2::salute:

[red states rule]

Just a case of very typical and extremely dumbass rabid racist reichwingers. I think they call themselves neoNazis.

:salute::cheers2::clap::laugh2::cheers2::salute:

at least we are calling them what they are - over the last 7 years when libs call for the mnrder of Pres Bush (or any other Republican) libs giggle and say nothing

[Psychoblues]

Well, they certainly don't associate themselves with the Democratic Party, do they? Average reichwingers would do well by disassociating themselves from even the inclinations they have at allowing those jerks to participate in otherwise responsible political aspirations, events and public office participation.


at least we are calling them what they are - over the last 7 years when libs call for the mnrder of Pres Bush (or any other Republican) libs giggle and say nothing

As far as your remark about the libs giggling about threats of a "mnrder" (I think you meant murder) of gwb I would invite you to prove that statement or simply admit that you're a liar. But, we all know how you allow your imagination and propensity towards exaggeration to overtake your otherwise good sense, don't we?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!

:salute::cheers2::clap::laugh2::cheers2::salute:

[red states rule]

Well, they certainly don't associate themselves with the Democratic Party, do they? Average reichwingers would do well by disassociating themselves from even the inclinations they have at allowing those jerks to participate in otherwise responsible political aspirations, events and public office participation.



As far as your remark about the libs giggling about threats of a "mnrder" (I think you meant murder) of gwb I would invite you to prove that statement or simply admit that you're a liar. But, we all know how you allow your imagination and propensity towards exaggeration to overtake your otherwise good sense, don't we?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!

:salute::cheers2::clap::laugh2::cheers2::salute:


NY State Comptroller Alan Hevesi said how Chuck Schumer would be the man to shoot Pres bush right between the eyes


snip

In the videotaped speech, Hevesi describes Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., as, "the man who, how do I phrase this diplomatically, who will put a bullet between the president's eyes if he could get away with it."

At the news conference, a contrite Hevesi said he was trying to convey that Schumer has the strength and courage to stand up to the president.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,197935,00.html


Then there were liberal hosts on Air America who hope Pres Bush would be beheaded by terrorists

Books and films made about Pres Bush being killed

So far, I have heard very little from your crowd expresing outrage over these examples of liebral love and tolerance

[Yurt]

NY State Comptroller Alan Hevesi said how Chuck Schumer would be the man to shoot Pres bush right between the eyes


snip

In the videotaped speech, Hevesi describes Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., as, "the man who, how do I phrase this diplomatically, who will put a bullet between the president's eyes if he could get away with it."

At the news conference, a contrite Hevesi said he was trying to convey that Schumer has the strength and courage to stand up to the president.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,197935,00.html


Then there were liberal hosts on Air America who hope Pres Bush would be beheaded by terrorists
Books and films made about Pres Bush being killed

So far, I have heard very little from your crowd expresing outrage over these examples of liebral love and tolerance

i did not hear the beheading one, but i heard them laughing about an assination attempt on GWB and how that would be a good thing for america

[red states rule]

i did not hear the beheading one, but i heard them laughing about an assination attempt on GWB and how that would be a good thing for america

I believe it was Randi Rhoads who said it would be justice if Pres Bush was captured and beheaded by AQ

She also played the sound of shotgun blasts in response to Pres Bush attempt to reform SS

As the shotgun blasts played she yelled "That is our response you little bastard"

[GW in Ohio]

I do not care who stopped the threat. As much as I dislike Obama, I do not want anyone using a bullet to stop someone from becoming President


You guys are all reacting in an admirable way to this.

I haven't yet made it to the end of this thread, but so far I haven't heard any assholes expressing sentiments like, "Too bad they didn't get him."

I'm proud of all you guys. Maybe you right wingers aren't so bad after all.

[red states rule]

You guys are all reacting in an admirable way to this.

I haven't yet made it to the end of this thread, but so far I haven't heard any assholes expressing sentiments like, "Too bad they didn't get him."

I'm proud of all you guys. Maybe you right wingers aren't so bad after all.

We are not acting like libs who comment on threads about the deaths of conservatives, or threads about death threats made against Pres Bush

[Psychoblues]

No, you're making blanket statements about "libs" and an imagined propensity of them to be as despicable as the jerks in question here.



We are not acting like libs who comment on threads about the deaths of conservatives, or threads about death threats made against Pres Bush

I tried to be nice and give you an honorable way out but you insist on being the obnoxious liar, exaggerator, paranoid, racist idiot that you are.

Nothing new about that.

:salute::cheers2::clap::laugh2::cheers2::salute:

[stephanie]

You guys are all reacting in an admirable way to this.

I haven't yet made it to the end of this thread, but so far I haven't heard any assholes expressing sentiments like, "Too bad they didn't get him."

I'm proud of all you guys. Maybe you right wingers aren't so bad after all.


mommy let someone stay up late tonight?
your condescending praise is just that...go to bed, it's past your bedtime..

[Sitarro]

This is a bullshit, blown out of proportion, joke of an arrest. These dimwit punk Nazi boys weren't capable of shit. They drove around in a car covered in swastikas, filled with skin head literature and talking shit........ wow, this 18 and 20 year old were some serious threat...... please.

Watch for the foreign nationals that think this is the perfect opportunity to start the race war that Charlie Manson wanted. Watch for people that are actually capable to do something with the serious training and equipment needed to pull it off. These guys are a joke and a waste of serious law enforcement's time...... nothing but a diversion.

[Sitarro]

No, you're making blanket statements about "libs" and an imagined propensity of them to be as despicable as the jerks in question here.

I tried to be nice and give you an honorable way out but you insist on being the obnoxious liar, exaggerator, paranoid, racist idiot that you are.

Nothing new about that.



Who would be stupid enough to take you seriously, you know how much the President has been threatened by your lousy, punk ass brethren in the Dimwit party, I would say quit playing stupid but unfortunately, I don't think it's an act.

[stephanie]

This is a bullshit, blown out of proportion, joke of an arrest. These dimwit punk Nazi boys weren't capable of shit. They drove around in a car covered in swastikas, filled with skin head literature and talking shit........ wow, this 18 and 20 year old were some serious threat...... please.

Watch for the foreign nationals that think this is the perfect opportunity to start the race war that Charlie Manson wanted. Watch for people that are actually capable to do something with the serious training and equipment needed to pull it off. These guys are a joke and a waste of serious law enforcement's time...... nothing but a diversion.

good observation sitarro..but this won't stop the libs from turning this into an all out drama for a couple of days...

[Psychoblues]

Bullshit, yourself, zero. If it was like you say the highway patrol, county sheriff or city police would have taken care it. This was an ATF operation which indicates an ongoing operation and heavy enforcement logistics.


This is a bullshit, blown out of proportion, joke of an arrest. These dimwit punk Nazi boys weren't capable of shit. They drove around in a car covered in swastikas, filled with skin head literature and talking shit........ wow, this 18 and 20 year old were some serious threat...... please.

Watch for the foreign nationals that think this is the perfect opportunity to start the race war that Charlie Manson wanted. Watch for people that are actually capable to do something with the serious training and equipment needed to pull it off. These guys are a joke and a waste of serious law enforcement's time...... nothing but a diversion.

Tsk, tsk. Perhaps they were your buds and you're going to miss them?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

:salute::cheers2::clap::laugh2::cheers2::salute:

[Sitarro]

Bullshit, yourself, zero. If it was like you say the highway patrol, county sheriff or city police would have taken care it. This was an ATF operation which indicates an ongoing operation and heavy enforcement logistics.



Tsk, tsk. Perhaps they were your buds and you're going to miss them?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!



Bullshit, these amateurs are just the type that the amateurs from the ATF are capable of catching. Refresh my memory, how many women and children did the overly excitable clowns of the ATF kill during the Clinton years?

[Psychoblues]

Too bad you weren't with your buds when they went down, zero.



Bullshit, these amateurs are just the type that the amateurs from the ATF are capable of catching. Refresh my memory, how many women and children did the overly excitable clowns of the ATF kill during the Clinton years?

Perhaps the subsequent arrests will include you and you will get to see the overall professionalism of the ATF.

:salute::cheers2::clap::laugh2::cheers2::salute:

[red states rule]

Who would be stupid enough to take you seriously, you know how much the President has been threatened by your lousy, punk ass brethren in the Dimwit party, I would say quit playing stupid but unfortunately, I don't think it's an act.

He is playing dumb. He says it did not happen - prove it

You prove it - he says the source is not crdible

You site another source - he says they were taken out od context

and it goes on like this for awhile, and then PB laces his denials with the usual insults then leaves

[GW in Ohio]

mommy let someone stay up late tonight?
your condescending praise is just that...go to bed, it's past your bedtime..

Hey, stephanie.....


:upyours::ahole::upyours:

Did I mention......

:fu: :dance::fu: ?

[red states rule]

Hey, stephanie.....


:upyours::ahole::upyours:

Did I mention......

:fu: :dance::fu: ?

GW does have great debate skills - maybe one day we will see them

[stephanie]

GW does have great debate skills - maybe one day we will see them

He must be about 16..using mommy and daddy's computer since he can't afford his own yet..

[red states rule]

He must be about 16..using mommy and daddy's computer since he can't afford his own yet..

http://www.pixelmarx.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/whiny-liberal-bloggers-cry-obama.jpg

[GW in Ohio]

GW does have great debate skills - maybe one day we will see them

RSR: If you talk substance to me, I always respond in kind.

Talk respectfully to me and I always respond respectfully.

stephanie is a negative individual and just a waste of time. All she ever does is insult and demean. I decided to respond in kind this time.

Hey, stephie.....

:fu::dance::fu:

And did I mention.....

:upyours::ahole::upyours:

[GW in Ohio]

He must be about 16..using mommy and daddy's computer since he can't afford his own yet..

And you're a fucking moron with absolutely nothing to say.

[red states rule]

RSR: If you talk substance to me, I always respond in kind.

Talk respectfully to me and I always respond respectfully.

stephanie is a negative individual and just a waste of time. All she ever does is insult and demean. I decided to respond in kind this time.

Hey, stephie.....

:fu::dance::fu:

And did I mention.....

:upyours::ahole::upyours:


You mean like when I invited you to the thread on Dems talking abiut taking over our 401K's - and asked you if you had a 401K?

I am still waiting for your answer. However, you are doing what a majorioty of Obamabots are doing, and do often - ignoring the issue

No, you tend to flame and attack - and do your best to avoid direct questions

[GW in Ohio]

You mean like when I invited you to the thread on Dems talking abiut taking over our 401K's - and asked you if you had a 401K?

I am still waiting for your answer. However, you are doing what a majorioty of Obamabots are doing, and do often - ignoring the issue

No, you tend to flame and attack - and do your best to avoid direct questions

I have a 401K, and it's lost about 25% of its value.

I'm hoping the guys who are running things at the world leader level will find a way to work together and minimize the damage.

[red states rule]

I have a 401K, and it's lost about 25% of its value.

I'm hoping the guys who are running things at the world leader level will find a way to work together and minimize the damage.

It has only lost value if you sell. With the Dems plan you will be screwed. But then again, you do not seem to want to talk about the Dems big step toward socialism

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=19007

[stephanie]

RSR: If you talk substance to me, I always respond in kind.

Talk respectfully to me and I always respond respectfully.

stephanie is a negative individual and just a waste of time. All she ever does is insult and demean. I decided to respond in kind this time.

Hey, Stephie.....

:fu::dance::fu:

And did I mention.....

:upyours::ahole::up yours:

Don't be showing your intelligence all at once now..you might scare people off..

[red states rule]

Don't be showing your intelligence all at once now..you might scare people off..

Like Rev MFM, GW's intelligence has never been questioned

Come to think of it, it has never been mentioned :laugh2:

[stephanie]

Like Rev MFM, GW's intelligence has never been questioned

Come to think of it, it has never been mentioned :laugh2:

he has to ask the "world leaders" to tell him where it is..:coffee:

[red states rule]

he has to ask the "world leaders" to tell him where it is..:coffee:

If you listen to the Obamabots (and damn that is hard) you would think Lord Obama is running for President of the World

[Gaffer]

If you listen to the Obamabots (and damn that is hard) you would think Lord Obama is running for President of the World

He is. They are just keeping that under wraps like everything else. After all he is the "messiah".

[red states rule]

He is. They are just keeping that under wraps like everything else. After all he is the "messiah".

http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/2008-presidential-election/24184d1216998824-obama-president-obama-speech-russia.jpg

[GW in Ohio]

It has only lost value if you sell. With the Dems plan you will be screwed. But then again, you do not seem to want to talk about the Dems big step toward socialism

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=19007

RSR: You will find that Obama is a liberal with a healthy respect for capitalism and the free market. Your dire predictions of socialism are just boogeyman talk.

But on the other hand, we have been moving in a socialist direction for the last 70 years or so, under both Republican and Democratic administrations, haven't we? We have more government entitlements, more safety nets for individuals (unemployment insurance, Social Security, Medicare), and we have more government regulations that are both bad and good (e.g., the laws restricting businesses from wantonly polluting the air and water have been a good thing).

On balance, we have been moving away from the robust, unfettered capitalism of the early years of the 20th century, but has this been a bad thing?

[red states rule]

RSR: You will find that Obama is a liberal with a healthy respect for capitalism and the free market. Your dire predictions of socialism are just boogeyman talk.

But on the other hand, we have been moving in a socialist direction for the last 70 years or so, under both Republican and Democratic administrations, haven't we? We have more government entitlements, more safety nets for individuals (unemployment insurance, Social Security, Medicare), and we have more government regulations that are both bad and good (e.g., the laws restricting businesses from wantonly polluting the air and water have been a good thing).

On balance, we have been moving away from the robust, unfettered capitalism of the early years of the 20th century, but has this been a bad thing?

Obama told us how he views the free market and capitalism with his "spread the wealth around" comment

The liberal safety nets GW have grown to the size of a king size bed - and libs want to grow them even more

[GW in Ohio]

Obama told us how he views the free market and capitalism with his "spread the wealth around" comment

The liberal safety nets GW have grown to the size of a king size bed - and libs want to grow them even more

You'll never turn back entitlements like Social Security and Medicare; it's like trying to hold back the tide.

It doesn't matter if a Republican or a Democrat is in the White House; entitlements are here to stay and they'll probably continue growing.

Didn't Medicare funding increase dramatically under Ronald Reagan's administration?

[red states rule]

You'll never turn back entitlements like Social Security and Medicare; it's like trying to hold back the tide.

It doesn't matter if a Republican or a Democrat is in the White House; entitlements are here to stay and they'll probably continue growing.

Didn't Medicare funding increase dramatically under Ronald Reagan's administration?

We will not have to turn back "entitlements" like SS and Medicare they will implode all on their own. Just to cover SS, the US government would have to seposit about $5 trillion to make the books balance.

The only options are imposing crippling tax increases, or rolling them back.

Pres Bush wanted to reform them, but Dems and RINOS did not have the guts to do it

Right now you have a tiny minority of people paying the majority of the taxes - and libs want to bleed them even more

Obama's economics will not work. Like in the 70's, the voters will pay for their votes based on emotion

[Psychoblues]

OK, rsr. You stepped in and ran your stupid ass mouth. He said that Democrats had threatened the lil' one even intimated it was many times. I disagree and asked for something to back up that statement.



He is playing dumb. He says it did not happen - prove it

You prove it - he says the source is not crdible

You site another source - he says they were taken out od context

and it goes on like this for awhile, and then PB laces his denials with the usual insults then leaves

You step in, prove nothing other than you are as ignorant and obstinate as ever and proceed to denigrate me. Fuck you, cowgirl. You ain't shit, you don't know shit and you ain't got shit. If you did you'd educate us rather than go on and on with your worthless circle jerk arguments with whomever will entertain you.

:salute::cheers2::clap::laugh2::cheers2::salute:

[red states rule]

OK, rsr. You stepped in and ran your stupid ass mouth. He said that Democrats had threatened the lil' one even intimated it was many times. I disagree and asked for something to back up that statement.




You step in, prove nothing other than you are as ignorant and obstinate as ever and proceed to denigrate me. Fuck you, cowgirl. You ain't shit, you don't know shit and you ain't got shit. If you did you'd educate us rather than go on and on with your worthless circle jerk arguments with whomever will entertain you.

:salute::cheers2::clap::laugh2::cheers2::salute:

This is the post I was responding to

Originally Posted by Sitarro
Who would be stupid enough to take you seriously, you know how much the President has been threatened by your lousy, punk ass brethren in the Dimwit party, I would say quit playing stupid but unfortunately, I don't think it's an act.


You posted how it was not true. For you to say Pres Bush has not been threatened by the kook left - you are either a liar or a fool

Or both

[stephanie]

OK, rsr. You stepped in and ran your stupid ass mouth. He said that Democrats had threatened the lil' one even intimated it was many times. I disagree and asked for something to back up that statement.




You step in, prove nothing other than you are as ignorant and obstinate as ever and proceed to denigrate me. Fuck you, cowgirl. You ain't shit, you don't know shit and you ain't got shit. If you did you'd educate us rather than go on and on with your worthless circle jerk arguments with whomever will entertain you.

:salute::cheers2::clap::laugh2::cheers2::salute:

you don't have much room to talk about other people going on and on with worthless circle jerk arguments...

sorry to let ya in on that one..