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Kathianne

10-31-2008, 12:50 AM

Obama? No. McCain? Yes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/30/us/politics/30campaign.html?ref=politics

October 30, 2008
McCain Attacks Los Angeles Times Over Its Refusal to Release ’03 Obama Video

By RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA
Alleging media bias in favor of Democrats, Senator John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin seized Wednesday on The Los Angeles Times’s refusal to release a five-year-old videotape of Barack Obama at a dinner honoring a Palestinian rights advocate.

The video shows a gathering in Chicago for Rashid Khalidi, a teacher, writer and Obama friend who is critical of Israel. Mr. Obama spoke at the dinner, where other speakers likened Israel and Israelis to terrorists. The McCain campaign said the tape could show how Mr. Obama reacted to anti-Israel remarks.

Mr. Khalidi, now a professor of Arab studies at Columbia University, opposes Israel’s occupation of territory it seized in the 1967 war and has defended Palestinian resistance to the occupation. He advised a Palestinian delegation at a 1991 peace conference and has written several books on the Middle East.

The Los Angeles Times said it had been given the video on the condition that it not be shown to anyone else. In an article published in April, the paper disclosed the tape’s existence and described the dinner. The article said that in a speech there, Mr. Obama spoke of frequent discussions with Mr. Khalidi and dinners at his home, and also called on the people of the Middle East to find common ground....

theHawk

10-31-2008, 07:41 AM

Joe Steel

10-31-2008, 08:09 AM

You know I could care less if Obama isn't gung ho pro-Israel, I know I'm not. But he should be a man about it and just say so. He is a complete hypocrit for pretending to be for Israel just to get the Jewish vote in battleground states. But, anything to win an election right?

Releasing the video would enflame extremists and degrade the discussion of legitimate issues. The newspaper is acting responsibly and should be commended.

namvet

10-31-2008, 08:24 AM

Releasing the video would enflame extremists and degrade the discussion of legitimate issues. The newspaper is acting responsibly and should be commended.

but if this is McCain you'll scream for it to be released.

http://debatepolicy.com/showpost.php?p=315738&postcount=1

The newspaper is acting responsibly and should be commended

hey stupid. the MSM no longer reports the news. they make em up. and this proves your a lying hypocrite !!!!!!:lame2:

theHawk

10-31-2008, 08:35 AM

Releasing the video would enflame extremists and degrade the discussion of legitimate issues. The newspaper is acting responsibly and should be commended.

No, it would piss off Jews as well as expose Obama for being a two-faced hypocrit. And every voter should be able to see that before they cast their vote.

Monkeybone

10-31-2008, 08:37 AM

And don't everybody forget, they would hold onto a McCain tape as well. So hush up. :poke:

namvet

10-31-2008, 08:39 AM

Osama gets NO vote from the jews. he's pro terrorist and they know it. their fighters are lined up on the Tarmac in case he's elected. :dance:

bullypulpit

10-31-2008, 02:17 PM

Obama? No. McCain? Yes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/30/us/politics/30campaign.html?ref=politics

Isn't it odd that the GOP was all in favor of journalistic privilege during Scooter Libby's trial for very real crimes which journalists were key players and witnesses for the prosecution.

The LA Times is claiming journalistic privilege regarding the video made of a banquet honoring Columbia Professor, Rashid Khalidi, where Obama gave a keynote speech. They promised to protect the source of the video, and they are abiding by that promise. But since the tape is a perceived, wrongly, negative for the Obama campaign...they want the LA Times to renege on their promises to their source. Quels hypocrites.

The fact is that the McCain campaign and the rest of the RWN talking heads really don't want the video...they hope to get more mileage out of false claims of malfeasance on the part of the LA Times and a non-connection between Obam and Khalidi, and BTW McCain has far more substantial ties to Khalidi than Obama.

<center><a href=http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/10/is_mccain_trying_to_make_rashi.html>Is McCain Trying to Make Rashid Khalidi Into an October Surprise?</a></center>

bullypulpit

10-31-2008, 02:26 PM

Osama gets NO vote from the jews. he's pro terrorist and they know it. their fighters are lined up on the Tarmac in case he's elected. :dance:

:bs1:

<center><a href=http://jews4obama2008.wordpress.com/>Jews for Obama</a></center>

Now, care to provide a link to independently verifiable, objective evidence that Obama is "pro terrorist"? Or are you simply going to leave that dumb-ass attack you call a post swinging in the breeze? My money is on the latter. :laugh2:

bullypulpit

10-31-2008, 04:03 PM

Didn't think so... :coffee:

bullypulpit

10-31-2008, 08:53 PM

manu1959

10-31-2008, 08:55 PM

Releasing the video would enflame extremists and degrade the discussion of legitimate issues. The newspaper is acting responsibly and should be commended.

yes like palin's clothes....thank god for responsible journalisim....

manu1959

10-31-2008, 08:57 PM

Isn't it odd that the GOP was all in favor of journalistic privilege during Scooter Libby's trial for very real crimes which journalists were key players and witnesses for the prosecution.

The LA Times is claiming journalistic privilege regarding the video made of a banquet honoring Columbia Professor, Rashid Khalidi, where Obama gave a keynote speech. They promised to protect the source of the video, and they are abiding by that promise. But since the tape is a perceived, wrongly, negative for the Obama campaign...they want the LA Times to renege on their promises to their source. Quels hypocrites.

The fact is that the McCain campaign and the rest of the RWN talking heads really don't want the video...they hope to get more mileage out of false claims of malfeasance on the part of the LA Times and a non-connection between Obam and Khalidi, and BTW McCain has far more substantial ties to Khalidi than Obama.

<center><a href=http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/10/is_mccain_trying_to_make_rashi.html>Is McCain Trying to Make Rashid Khalidi Into an October Surprise?</a></center>

yes scooter libby ran for president......the man you are voting for gave a key note speech for a man that would like to see the destruction of this nation and its allies.....

manu1959

10-31-2008, 08:59 PM

:bs1:

<center><a href=http://jews4obama2008.wordpress.com/>Jews for Obama</a></center>

Now, care to provide a link to independently verifiable, objective evidence that Obama is "pro terrorist"? Or are you simply going to leave that dumb-ass attack you call a post swinging in the breeze? My money is on the latter. :laugh2:

why is he giving key note speeches and sitting in living rooms of self proclaimed terrorists and or their supporters....

Yurt

10-31-2008, 11:22 PM

Isn't it odd that the GOP was all in favor of journalistic privilege during Scooter Libby's trial for very real crimes which journalists were key players and witnesses for the prosecution.

The LA Times is claiming journalistic privilege regarding the video made of a banquet honoring Columbia Professor, Rashid Khalidi, where Obama gave a keynote speech. They promised to protect the source of the video, and they are abiding by that promise. But since the tape is a perceived, wrongly, negative for the Obama campaign...they want the LA Times to renege on their promises to their source. Quels hypocrites.

The fact is that the McCain campaign and the rest of the RWN talking heads really don't want the video...they hope to get more mileage out of false claims of malfeasance on the part of the LA Times and a non-connection between Obam and Khalidi, and BTW McCain has far more substantial ties to Khalidi than Obama.

<center><a href=http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/10/is_mccain_trying_to_make_rashi.html>Is McCain Trying to Make Rashid Khalidi Into an October Surprise?</a></center>

1. did the libs go to court/legislative branch to get him to talk?

2. so you are saying your party is EXACTLY like the repubs when it suits you

3. why release something to the media and them tell them not to release it?

4. does this video really exist?

5. if it does and it is damaging to obama, does this make LA times yellow times....in that, do you honestly believe they would keep such a thing hidden if the person had an (R) at the end of their name?

bullypulpit

11-01-2008, 02:07 AM

yes scooter libby ran for president......the man you are voting for gave a key note speech for a man that would like to see the destruction of this nation and its allies.....

:bs1:

:link:

But more to the point, Scooter commited perjury and impeded a federal investigation, also known as obstruction of justice. He'd be trading cigarettes for his ass in prison if Chimpy hadn't pardoned him.

bullypulpit

11-01-2008, 02:08 AM

1. did the libs go to court/legislative branch to get him to talk?

2. so you are saying your party is EXACTLY like the repubs when it suits you

3. why release something to the media and them tell them not to release it?

4. does this video really exist?

5. if it does and it is damaging to obama, does this make LA times yellow times....in that, do you honestly believe they would keep such a thing hidden if the person had an (R) at the end of their name?

:lol:

More :bs1:

:laugh2:

namvet

11-01-2008, 08:20 AM

:bs1:

<center><a href=http://jews4obama2008.wordpress.com/>Jews for Obama</a></center>

Now, care to provide a link to independently verifiable, objective evidence that Obama is "pro terrorist"? Or are you simply going to leave that dumb-ass attack you call a post swinging in the breeze? My money is on the latter. :laugh2:

right back up your ass (right back up your ass)

Now, care to provide a link to independently verifiable, objective evidence that Obama is NOT "pro terrorist"? Or are you simply going to leave that dumb-ass attack you call a post swinging in the breeze? My money is on the latter. :lol::laugh2:

bullypulpit

11-01-2008, 05:53 PM

right back up your ass (right back up your ass)

Now, care to provide a link to independently verifiable, objective evidence that Obama is NOT "pro terrorist"? Or are you simply going to leave that dumb-ass attack you call a post swinging in the breeze? My money is on the latter. :lol::laugh2:

<blockquote>Engaging without illusions might be one way to describe how diplomacy would be conducted in an Obama administration. Just like with Iran, he would engage on Arab-Israeli peace. Not because he knows it will produce peace, but because he again understands the consequences of disengagement. Who gained when the Bush administration walked away from peace making for more than six years and then in its last years pursued it incompetently? Hamas, because like all radical Islamists, they gain when there is hopelessness and frustration. Who lost? Those in the Arab and Palestinian world who favor a two-state solution but need the possibility of peace to make their case and to have the political space to build their authority.

It is my Middle Eastern hat and my attachment to Israel that ultimately inspires my support for Obama. I saw first hand his appreciation for Israel's predicament, its needs and his instinctive and emotional commitment to the relationship. But more than this, I know he understands that neither Israel nor America can afford four more years of Iran and the radical Islamists gaining strategic leverage in the Middle East. Slogans won't prevent that. A fixation on Iraq won't prevent that. But a leader who understands how to use all the elements of American power, revitalize that power and influence and get others to follow us in order to ensure we win the battle for hearts and minds will be able to do so. - <a href=http://www.jewishjournal.com/opinion/article/why_i_support_barack_obama_20081009/>The Jewish Journal</a></blockquote>

<center><a href=http://maryland-politics.blogspot.com/2008/02/jewish-support-letter-for-barack-obama.html>Jewish support letter for Barrack Obama</a></center>

<blockquote>We support Senator Obama as a leader who has demonstrated long-standing and unwavering support for Israel, and a deeply felt admiration for its people and government, dating back to his days as a state legislator in Illinois. As Senator Obama pledged at AIPAC on June 4, “Our alliance is based on shared interests and shared values….I will bring to the White House an unshakeable commitment to Israel’s security…Israel’s security is sacrosanct. It is non-negotiable.” - <a href=http://jews4barack.com/mythfacts/?p=35>Jews For Obama.com</blockquote>

And, last, but not least...

<center><a href=http://www.gallup.com/poll/111424/Obama-Winning-Over-Jewish-Vote.aspx>Obama Winning Over the Jewish Vote</a></center>

Obama leads McCain amongst Jewish voters by 52%...up from a 31% lead in June. As for your "proof", you didn't provide any proof at all. Just a bunch of unsubstantiated RWN smears which bear more resemblance to the attack ads launched against McCain by the Bush campaign in 2000 than to any thing resembling facts.

Not even a nice try monkey boy. Now, when are you and your wife leaving the country?

namvet

11-01-2008, 07:03 PM

<blockquote>Engaging without illusions might be one way to describe how diplomacy would be conducted in an Obama administration. Just like with Iran, he would engage on Arab-Israeli peace. Not because he knows it will produce peace, but because he again understands the consequences of disengagement. Who gained when the Bush administration walked away from peace making for more than six years and then in its last years pursued it incompetently? Hamas, because like all radical Islamists, they gain when there is hopelessness and frustration. Who lost? Those in the Arab and Palestinian world who favor a two-state solution but need the possibility of peace to make their case and to have the political space to build their authority.

It is my Middle Eastern hat and my attachment to Israel that ultimately inspires my support for Obama. I saw first hand his appreciation for Israel's predicament, its needs and his instinctive and emotional commitment to the relationship. But more than this, I know he understands that neither Israel nor America can afford four more years of Iran and the radical Islamists gaining strategic leverage in the Middle East. Slogans won't prevent that. A fixation on Iraq won't prevent that. But a leader who understands how to use all the elements of American power, revitalize that power and influence and get others to follow us in order to ensure we win the battle for hearts and minds will be able to do so. - <a href=http://www.jewishjournal.com/opinion/article/why_i_support_barack_obama_20081009/>The Jewish Journal</a></blockquote>

<center><a href=http://maryland-politics.blogspot.com/2008/02/jewish-support-letter-for-barack-obama.html>Jewish support letter for Barrack Obama</a></center>

<blockquote>We support Senator Obama as a leader who has demonstrated long-standing and unwavering support for Israel, and a deeply felt admiration for its people and government, dating back to his days as a state legislator in Illinois. As Senator Obama pledged at AIPAC on June 4, “Our alliance is based on shared interests and shared values….I will bring to the White House an unshakeable commitment to Israel’s security…Israel’s security is sacrosanct. It is non-negotiable.” - <a href=http://jews4barack.com/mythfacts/?p=35>Jews For Obama.com</blockquote>

And, last, but not least...

<center><a href=http://www.gallup.com/poll/111424/Obama-Winning-Over-Jewish-Vote.aspx>Obama Winning Over the Jewish Vote</a></center>

Obama leads McCain amongst Jewish voters by 52%...up from a 31% lead in June. As for your "proof", you didn't provide any proof at all. Just a bunch of unsubstantiated RWN smears which bear more resemblance to the attack ads launched against McCain by the Bush campaign in 2000 than to any thing resembling facts.

Not even a nice try monkey boy. Now, when are you and your wife leaving the country?

to bad. Israel does not agree with your 'boy'. and neither does our Military.

Barrak Obama will force Israel to attack Iran before he becomes President in January
source (source)

Israeli Attack on Iran Timed Between November and January?
source (source)

there's always the unexpected huh???? if your "boy' is forced into conscription you'll be the one leaving the country. :thumb:

namvet

11-01-2008, 07:36 PM

<blockquote>Engaging without illusions might be one way to describe how diplomacy would be conducted in an Obama administration. Just like with Iran, he would engage on Arab-Israeli peace. Not because he knows it will produce peace, but because he again understands the consequences of disengagement. Who gained when the Bush administration walked away from peace making for more than six years and then in its last years pursued it incompetently? Hamas, because like all radical Islamists, they gain when there is hopelessness and frustration. Who lost? Those in the Arab and Palestinian world who favor a two-state solution but need the possibility of peace to make their case and to have the political space to build their authority.

It is my Middle Eastern hat and my attachment to Israel that ultimately inspires my support for Obama. I saw first hand his appreciation for Israel's predicament, its needs and his instinctive and emotional commitment to the relationship. But more than this, I know he understands that neither Israel nor America can afford four more years of Iran and the radical Islamists gaining strategic leverage in the Middle East. Slogans won't prevent that. A fixation on Iraq won't prevent that. But a leader who understands how to use all the elements of American power, revitalize that power and influence and get others to follow us in order to ensure we win the battle for hearts and minds will be able to do so. - <a href=http://www.jewishjournal.com/opinion/article/why_i_support_barack_obama_20081009/>The Jewish Journal</a></blockquote>

<center><a href=http://maryland-politics.blogspot.com/2008/02/jewish-support-letter-for-barack-obama.html>Jewish support letter for Barrack Obama</a></center>

<blockquote>We support Senator Obama as a leader who has demonstrated long-standing and unwavering support for Israel, and a deeply felt admiration for its people and government, dating back to his days as a state legislator in Illinois. As Senator Obama pledged at AIPAC on June 4, “Our alliance is based on shared interests and shared values….I will bring to the White House an unshakeable commitment to Israel’s security…Israel’s security is sacrosanct. It is non-negotiable.” - <a href=http://jews4barack.com/mythfacts/?p=35>Jews For Obama.com</blockquote>

And, last, but not least...

<center><a href=http://www.gallup.com/poll/111424/Obama-Winning-Over-Jewish-Vote.aspx>Obama Winning Over the Jewish Vote</a></center>

Obama leads McCain amongst Jewish voters by 52%...up from a 31% lead in June. As for your "proof", you didn't provide any proof at all. Just a bunch of unsubstantiated RWN smears which bear more resemblance to the attack ads launched against McCain by the Bush campaign in 2000 than to any thing resembling facts.

Not even a nice try monkey boy. Now, when are you and your wife leaving the country?

The Real Barack Obama
link (link)

Loudon: The Axelrod Axis — Who Is Behind the Man Behind Obama?
link (link)

what kind of change Bullyshit????
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'Twas the night before elections

And all through the town

Tempers were flaring

Emotions all up and down!

I, in my bathrobe

With a cat in my lap

Had cut off the TV

Tired of political crap.

When all of a sudden

There arose such a noise

I peered out of my window

Saw Obama and his boys

They had come for my wallet

They wanted my pay

To give to the others

Who had not worked a day!

He snatched up my money

And quick as a wink

Jumped back on his bandwagon

As I gagged from the stink

He then rallied his henchmen

Who were pulling his cart

I could tell they were out

To tear my country apart!

' On Fannie, on Freddie,

On Biden and Ayers!

On Acorn, On Pelosi'

He screamed at the pairs!

They took off for his cause

And as he flew out of sight

I heard him laugh at the nation

Who wouldn't stand up and fight!

So I leave you to think

On this one final note-

IF YOU DONT WANT SOCIALISM

GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!

the Israelis have the best national defense on the planet. so go back to picking your nose and eating it !!!!!:thumb:

namvet

11-01-2008, 07:54 PM

you asked nose picker

bdtirp4XdGs

http://www.usweekly.com/

bullypulpit

11-01-2008, 11:59 PM

Evidence...not editorials. Your shit is sooooo weak.
So, when are you and the missus leaving the country? :laugh2:

Yurt

11-02-2008, 12:05 AM

:lol:

More :bs1:

:laugh2:

translation:

i can't keep up with yurt, so i will merely insult him and hope this fools people into believing that i can debate yurt on the points

bullypulpit

11-02-2008, 12:16 AM

translation:

i can't keep up with yurt, so i will merely insult him and hope this fools people into believing that i can debate yurt on the points

Translation:

I got nothing, so I'll keep throwing out bucket loads of unsubstantiated and irrelevant crap until bullypulpit gives up.

:laugh2:

Yurt

11-02-2008, 12:26 AM

Translation:

I got nothing, so I'll keep throwing out bucket loads of unsubstantiated and irrelevant crap until bullypulpit gives up.

:laugh2:

i hoped you had more...my bad

namvet

11-02-2008, 09:18 AM

Evidence...not editorials. Your shit is sooooo weak.
So, when are you and the missus leaving the country? :laugh2:

your shit is just that - pure shit.

im not leaving this country so fuck off Nazi.

bullypulpit

11-02-2008, 12:06 PM

your shit is just that - pure shit.

im not leaving this country so fuck off Nazi.

ive already made arrangements to have ALL my financial assements moved overseas. <b>and my wife and I as well !!!!</b>

this is not about some god damned NI..ER its alll about ME !!!!

:lol:

Facts presented from reputable sites, including current poling...and you call it shit...you arrogant little mamzer. And then you lie about leaving the country. What a meshugoyim you are.

Zei gezunt, and don't let the door hit you and the missus on the way out!

:laugh2:

namvet

11-02-2008, 12:52 PM

:lol:

Facts presented from reputable sites, including current poling...and you call it shit...you arrogant little mamzer. And then you lie about leaving the country. What a meshugoyim you are.

Zei gezunt, and don't let the door hit you and the missus on the way out!

:laugh2:

if your Führer turns this country into a Nazi state many will leave. you'll be wearing the brown shirt and knocking down doors. not us.
you do his biddin' or face a firing squad. storm trooper

namvet

11-02-2008, 12:56 PM

:lol:

Facts presented from reputable sites, including current poling...and you call it shit...you arrogant little mamzer. And then you lie about leaving the country. What a meshugoyim you are.

Zei gezunt, and don't let the door hit you and the missus on the way out!

:laugh2:

your weak willed and weak minded. ripe for the pickins asshat

bullypulpit

11-02-2008, 10:14 PM

if your Führer turns this country into a Nazi state many will leave. you'll be wearing the brown shirt and knocking down doors. not us.
you do his biddin' or face a firing squad. storm trooper

your weak willed and weak minded. ripe for the pickins asshat

No one has brought this nation closer to a fascist state than the Bush administration. The USA PATRIOT Act, and its follow up he and his apparatchicks railroaded through Congress in the wake of 9/11 gave Bush powers that Hitler would have been envious of even after the German Parliament passed the Enabling Act of 1933 in the aftermath of the burning of the Reichstag. And lets not forget the executive orders and signing statements Bush issued to further undermine the Constitution and secure power in the hands of the Executive Branch.

Of course, if Obama turns out to be another dictator wannabe like Bush, I'll do everything in my power to see that it doesn't happen. If it's doing the "Danny Deever" for me then so be it.

As for being "weak willed and weak minded", your inability to offer up a rational and reasoned rebuttal is a true demonstration of those qualities in your self.

So, when are you and the missus leaving the country?

namvet

11-03-2008, 09:39 AM

No one has brought this nation closer to a fascist state than the Bush administration. The USA PATRIOT Act, and its follow up he and his apparatchicks railroaded through Congress in the wake of 9/11 gave Bush powers that Hitler would have been envious of even after the German Parliament passed the Enabling Act of 1933 in the aftermath of the burning of the Reichstag. And lets not forget the executive orders and signing statements Bush issued to further undermine the Constitution and secure power in the hands of the Executive Branch.

Of course, if Obama turns out to be another dictator wannabe like Bush, I'll do everything in my power to see that it doesn't happen. If it's doing the "Danny Deever" for me then so be it.

As for being "weak willed and weak minded", your inability to offer up a rational and reasoned rebuttal is a true demonstration of those qualities in your self.

So, when are you and the missus leaving the country?

great copy and paste. oh the poor dems. railroaded by Bush :laugh2: the worst house and senate ratings in American history. 2 years of doing noting. now the liberal protesters are outside their homes and offices. they lied to America 2 years ago saying if elected they would end the war. but they didn't. any excuse you can give for them here???? also no drilling. hmmm. lets see. over 78% of the country said do it or your removed from office. panic !! panic !!! hmmm what can we do. oh !!! we know. lets sue OPEC for higher production. :laugh2: OPEC told em go get your own oil tsk tsk. and so Pelsoi give senators permission to drill for fear of losing their career. how totally fucked can they get ???? your weak. and feeble minded. how's it feel to be lead around by the nose ???? obvioulsy someone else has to make your decisions for you. I hear if the Nazi is elected you will be issued an SS ID card. be sure and sign it !!!!!

So, when are you and the missus leaving the Nazi state???? one step ahead ahead of you. :coffee:

liberalism defined. just for you sweet heart

77vOAuoJf0E

your personal photo of Osama. be sure and have it autographed asshat
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/05/18/ba_monkeys_012_mac.jpg

bullypulpit

11-03-2008, 03:39 PM

great copy and paste. oh the poor dems. railroaded by Bush :laugh2: the worst house and senate ratings in American history. 2 years of doing noting. now the liberal protesters are outside their homes and offices. they lied to America 2 years ago saying if elected they would end the war. but they didn't. any excuse you can give for them here???? also no drilling. hmmm. lets see. over 78% of the country said do it or your removed from office. panic !! panic !!! hmmm what can we do. oh !!! we know. lets sue OPEC for higher production. :laugh2: OPEC told em go get your own oil tsk tsk. and so Pelsoi give senators permission to drill for fear of losing their career. how totally fucked can they get ???? your weak. and feeble minded. how's it feel to be lead around by the nose ???? obvioulsy someone else has to make your decisions for you. I hear if the Nazi is elected you will be issued an SS ID card. be sure and sign it !!!!!

So, when are you and the missus leaving the Nazi state???? one step ahead ahead of you. :coffee:

liberalism defined. just for you sweet heart

77vOAuoJf0E

your personal photo of Osama. be sure and have it autographed asshat
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/05/18/ba_monkeys_012_mac.jpg

Actually, Congress got quite a bit done in the last two years in spite of Republican obstructionism, as can bee seen at the <a href=http://thomas.loc.gov/bss/d110/d110laws.html>Library of Congress</a> website. Republican filibusters scuttled Senate action on Iraq...Please do cite evidence of "panic" on the part of Democrats regarding domestic oil drilling, and it was Bush who went begging to the House of Saud for increased oil production only to be turned away empty handed.

As for your peurile insults, they only serve as further proof of your own weak mindedness and lack of will. Unlike you, I have never stated a willingness to leave the country in the event of the presidential election going to someone other that whom I choose. You, sir, lack the courage of your convictions in your willingness to abandon your country instead of taking every legal action at hand to ensure the sanctity of the Republic and the Constitution.

namvet

11-03-2008, 03:59 PM

Actually, Congress got quite a bit done in the last two years in spite of Republican obstructionism, as can bee seen at the <a href=http://thomas.loc.gov/bss/d110/d110laws.html>Library of Congress</a> website. Republican filibusters scuttled Senate action on Iraq...Please do cite evidence of "panic" on the part of Democrats regarding domestic oil drilling, and it was Bush who went begging to the House of Saud for increased oil production only to be turned away empty handed.

As for your peurile insults, they only serve as further proof of your own weak mindedness and lack of will. Unlike you, I have never stated a willingness to leave the country in the event of the presidential election going to someone other that whom I choose. You, sir, lack the courage of your convictions in your willingness to abandon your country instead of taking every legal action at hand to ensure the sanctity of the Republic and the Constitution.

Please do cite evidence of "panic" on the part of Democrats

Halleluiah! House Dems Solve Oil Crisis-- Will Sue OPEC.....this is shear panic. or is it business as usual to sue another country????? your a fuckin idiot !!!!

dems PANIC !!!! (dems PANIC !!!!)
your gettin your ass stomped all over this board by other members. it is tuff being you. im makin more pop corn.

BTY moron Bush opened ANWR.