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TheSage
01-14-2007, 11:50 AM
Does the government lie?

Yes
No

Please feel free to add additional comments and/or personal attacks.

mrg666
01-14-2007, 12:04 PM
all goverments lie , they have to mother us and keep us from the stark realities of the world

TheSage
01-14-2007, 12:07 PM
all goverments lie , they have to mother us and keep us from the stark realities of the world


so you weren't confused by the word "lie"? Cool. Thanks for being honest.:wink2:

mrg666
01-14-2007, 12:33 PM
so you weren't confused by the word "lie"? Cool. Thanks for being honest.:wink2:

i got a feelin the sh*t will hit with this diana verdict thing in the u.k can they really afford to let all the conspiracy theories become true ,
they are putting a "common jury" in place but will ALL the information be available in court

Mr. P
01-14-2007, 01:34 PM
i got a feelin the sh*t will hit with this diana verdict thing in the u.k can they really afford to let all the conspiracy theories become true ,
they are putting a "common jury" in place but will ALL the information be available in court

They’re going to try a conspiracy theory? What will the Brits think of next, gun control?

Dilloduck
01-14-2007, 01:59 PM
Why do they have to lie about anything?

Pale Rider
01-14-2007, 04:02 PM
Liberals lie constantly.

Insein
01-14-2007, 04:58 PM
Does the wind blow? Is the sky blue? What kind of dumbass question is that?

TheSage
01-14-2007, 05:00 PM
Does the wind blow? Is the sky blue? What kind of dumbass question is that?


It's not a dumbass question. Some on here seem to have a good two shoes view of our government.

Mr. P
01-14-2007, 05:02 PM
Does the wind blow? Is the sky blue? What kind of dumbass question is that?

It’s what ya call a ‘trick’ question, Insein.

TheSage
01-14-2007, 05:06 PM
It’s what ya call a ‘trick’ question, Insein.

How is it a trick question? Do I need to whip you into shape again?

Mr. P
01-14-2007, 05:11 PM
How is it a trick question? Do I need to whip you into shape again?

Again? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

TheSage
01-14-2007, 05:13 PM
Again? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Yes. Again. Please explain how it's a trick question.

Mr. P
01-14-2007, 05:20 PM
Yes. Again. Please explain how it's a trick question.

Please tell us 'which' government you're asking about. ;)

TheSage
01-14-2007, 05:32 PM
Please tell us 'which' government you're asking about. ;)

The United Stated Government. Now will you explain how it's a trick question?

Mr. P
01-14-2007, 05:58 PM
The United Stated Government. Now will you explain how it's a trick question?

By the people for the people of the people..you tell me, does the US government lie? :wink2:

TheSage
01-14-2007, 06:01 PM
By the people for the people of the people..you tell me, does the US government lie? :wink2:

Yes. I've already voted in the poll. What do YOU think?

Mr. P
01-14-2007, 06:09 PM
Yes. I've already voted in the poll. What do YOU think?

I don't think the poll matches reality.

TheSage
01-14-2007, 06:11 PM
I don't think the poll matches reality.
That sounds novel. In what way does the poll not match reality, mr.deep, mysterious and confused?

OCA
01-14-2007, 06:36 PM
The poll is bogus because government lying is hardly black and white, or do any of you believe you should be told anytime the government is involved in an assassination plot?

Mr. P
01-14-2007, 06:36 PM
That sounds novel. In what way does the poll not match reality, mr.deep, mysterious and confused?

The puzzle starts in post #16. :p

TheSage
01-14-2007, 06:38 PM
The poll is bogus because government lying is hardly black and white, or do any of you believe you should be told anytime the government is involved in an assassination plot?

Concealing information is not the same as actively lying. The poll is not bogus. It's very straightforward.

TheSage
01-14-2007, 06:39 PM
The puzzle starts in post #16. :p

Are you sure? I don't see it, honestly. Why don't you make it clear. DOes the government lie?

OCA
01-14-2007, 06:41 PM
Concealing information is not the same as actively lying. The poll is not bogus. It's very straightforward.

No, you left out all the relevant isues and information that should have been attatched to yes or no. Basically the poll question is worded so only 2nd graders and below and dumbases could participate.

TheSage
01-14-2007, 06:43 PM
No, you left out all the relevant isues and information that should have been attatched to yes or no. Basically the poll question is worded so only 2nd graders and below and dumbases could participate.

Not at all. When a government rep speaks or writes an official information, he's either telling the truth, or he's telling a lie. Being truly ignorant of facts and saying something WRONG is not a lie.

OCA
01-14-2007, 06:48 PM
Not at all. When a government rep speaks or writes an official information, he's either telling the truth, or he's telling a lie. Being truly ignorant of facts and saying something WRONG is not a lie.

Official document or not the poulace has no right to know the truth about everything. Go ask your boss if he/she tells you the truth about everything, oh wait, you are just a temp, lower than dog piss.

TheSage
01-14-2007, 06:50 PM
Official document or not the poulace has no right to know the truth about everything. Go ask your boss if he/she tells you the truth about everything, oh wait, you are just a temp, lower than dog piss.

SO that's a "Yes, the government lies". See how easy that was? Your theory that we have no right to expect the truth is a separate issue.

OCA
01-14-2007, 06:55 PM
SO that's a "Yes, the government lies". See how easy that was? Your theory that we have no right to expect the truth is a separate issue.

Sure they lie but its not black and white. Oh well, simple polls posed by simple minds.......

TheSage
01-14-2007, 06:56 PM
Sure they lie but its not black and white. Oh well, simple polls posed by simple minds.......


That's a "yes". Go vote.

Mr. P
01-14-2007, 06:56 PM
Are you sure? I don't see it, honestly. Why don't you make it clear. DOes the government lie?

Do spouses beat their wifes? Yes or no.

TheSage
01-14-2007, 06:58 PM
Do spouses beat their wifes? Yes or no.

Yes, it does happen.

Mr. P
01-14-2007, 07:02 PM
Yes, it does happen.

But the 'yes' is not an absolute, is it. Tis why your poll is flawed.

TheSage
01-14-2007, 07:03 PM
But the 'yes' is not an absolute, is it. Tis why your poll is flawed.

You didn't ask if ALL spouses beat their wives. The answer to that is no. There is no flaw in the poll. You're just too stubborn to give a simple answer.

OCA
01-14-2007, 07:11 PM
Do spouses beat their wifes? Yes or no.

Do Jews control the tilt-a-whirl at Disneyland? Yes or no? LMFAO!

What a tool RWA is!

OCA
01-14-2007, 07:13 PM
You didn't ask if ALL spouses beat their wives. The answer to that is no. There is no flaw in the poll. You're just too stubborn to give a simple answer.

There is a flaw, you're just too much of a fucking dunce to realize it. Go back to burying catshit in the sandbox and leave politics to the grownups.

TheSage
01-14-2007, 07:15 PM
There is a flaw, you're just too much of a fucking dunce to realize it. Go back to burying catshit in the sandbox and leave politics to the grownups.

There is no flaw in the question. You said yourself the government lies. Case closed.

Mr. P
01-14-2007, 07:23 PM
You didn't ask if ALL spouses beat their wives. The answer to that is no. There is no flaw in the poll. You're just too stubborn to give a simple answer.

You didn't ask if 'all' government lie either. The poll is flawed.

TheSage
01-14-2007, 07:25 PM
You didn't ask if 'all' government lie either. The poll is flawed.

The government's official policy is to lie and it is a relatively monolithic entity. The poll is not flawed; the government lies.

OCA
01-14-2007, 07:26 PM
There is no flaw in the question. You said yourself the government lies. Case closed.

They lie for the sake of the common good in many instances. Shades of grey Opie, shades of grey.

TheSage
01-14-2007, 07:28 PM
They lie for the sake of the common good in many instances. Shades of grey Opie, shades of grey.


Thats a "yes, they lie". Whether or not you agree with their policy of lying is a different issue.

OCA
01-14-2007, 07:28 PM
The government's official policy is to lie and it is a relatively monolithic entity. The poll is not flawed; the government lies.

Got any proof of that official postion Opie?

OCA
01-14-2007, 07:30 PM
Thats a "yes, they lie". Whether or not you agree with their policy of lying is a different issue.

How about I edit the poll? You know to make it more realistic.

TheSage
01-14-2007, 07:31 PM
How about I edit the poll? You know to make it more realistic.

I don't think you should, but of course, I can't stop you. It's an OCA world.

mrg666
01-17-2007, 01:51 AM
They’re going to try a conspiracy theory? What will the Brits think of next, gun control?

changed there minds no jury the lie can continue
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/15/world/main2359453.shtml

retiredman
01-17-2007, 08:19 AM
Liberals lie constantly.

conservatives lie habitually

avatar4321
01-17-2007, 09:53 AM
Liberals lie constantly.

most politicians do sadly, regardless whether they are liberal or not.

dirt mcgirt
01-17-2007, 11:38 AM
There is a flaw, you're just too much of a fucking dunce to realize it. Go back to burying catshit in the sandbox and leave politics to the grownups.
Hey what's the deal with the selective treatment on personal attacks? I get an earful from the admins, mods, and posters for my personal attack but this goes unchecked. The mods and admins should abide by their own rules and enforce them equally, right? :wink2:

dirt mcgirt
01-17-2007, 11:42 AM
This is why I'm a proponent of lower taxes and smaller government. The less tax dollars they have, the less government there is to lie to you.