Dems Prepare To Investigate Bush Administration

[red states rule]

Let the Dems do it. They believe that winning by 6 million votes gives them Carte Blanche. They are overreaching and I hope the keep reaching!

This kind of post-election triumphal witch-hunt will ensure that Obama/DNC fatigue sets in faster then Bush Fatigue did!


Bush, Out of Office, Could Oppose Inquiries

By CHARLIE SAVAGE
Published: November 12, 2008
WASHINGTON — When a Congressional committee subpoenaed Harry S. Truman in 1953, nearly a year after he left office, he made a startling claim: Even though he was no longer president, the Constitution still empowered him to block subpoenas.

“If the doctrine of separation of powers and the independence of the presidency is to have any validity at all, it must be equally applicable to a president after his term of office has expired,” Truman wrote to the committee.

Congress backed down, establishing a precedent suggesting that former presidents wield lingering powers to keep matters from their administration secret. Now, as Congressional Democrats prepare to move forward with investigations of the Bush administration, they wonder whether that claim may be invoked again.

“The Bush administration overstepped in its exertion of executive privilege, and may very well try to continue to shield information from the American people after it leaves office,” said Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, Democrat of Rhode Island, who sits on two committees, Judiciary and Intelligence, that are examining aspects of Mr. Bush’s policies.

Topics of open investigations include the harsh interrogation of detainees, the prosecution of former Gov. Don Siegelman of Alabama, secret legal memorandums from the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel and the role of the former White House aides Karl Rove and Harriet E. Miers in the firing of federal prosecutors.

Mr. Bush has used his executive powers to block Congressional requests for executive branch documents and testimony from former aides. But investigators hope that the Obama administration will open the filing cabinets and withdraw assertions of executive privilege that Bush officials have invoked to keep from testifying.

“I intend to ensure that our outstanding subpoenas and document requests relating to the U.S. attorneys matter are enforced,” said Representative John Conyers Jr., Democrat of Michigan and chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. “I am hopeful that progress can be made with the coming of the new administration.”

Also, two advocacy groups, the American Civil Liberties Union and Human Rights First, have prepared detailed reports for the new administration calling for criminal investigations into accusations of abuse of detainees.

It is not clear, though, how a President Barack Obama will handle such requests. Legal specialists said the pressure to investigate the Bush years would raise tough political and legal questions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/washington/13inquire.html

[Abbey Marie]

The phrase "Nero fiddling while Rome burns" comes to mind here.

[red states rule]

The phrase "Nero fiddling while Rome burns" comes to mind here.

I am glad to see the Dems are rolling up their sleeves and getting to work!

Let's start with an investigation into the current economic situation which purportedly started under the Carter administration, was abused by the Clinton administration

Let's see how many heads roll during that investigation. NONE! Why? Because there are many who are responsible with a good percentage (likely a higher percentage) of those responsible being Democrats!

[bullypulpit]

Let the Dems do it. They believe that winning by 6 million votes gives them Carte Blanche. They are overreaching and I hope the keep reaching!

This kind of post-election triumphal witch-hunt will ensure that Obama/DNC fatigue sets in faster then Bush Fatigue did!


Bush, Out of Office, Could Oppose Inquiries

By CHARLIE SAVAGE
Published: November 12, 2008
WASHINGTON — When a Congressional committee subpoenaed Harry S. Truman in 1953, nearly a year after he left office, he made a startling claim: Even though he was no longer president, the Constitution still empowered him to block subpoenas.

“If the doctrine of separation of powers and the independence of the presidency is to have any validity at all, it must be equally applicable to a president after his term of office has expired,” Truman wrote to the committee.

Congress backed down, establishing a precedent suggesting that former presidents wield lingering powers to keep matters from their administration secret. Now, as Congressional Democrats prepare to move forward with investigations of the Bush administration, they wonder whether that claim may be invoked again.

“The Bush administration overstepped in its exertion of executive privilege, and may very well try to continue to shield information from the American people after it leaves office,” said Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, Democrat of Rhode Island, who sits on two committees, Judiciary and Intelligence, that are examining aspects of Mr. Bush’s policies.

Topics of open investigations include the harsh interrogation of detainees, the prosecution of former Gov. Don Siegelman of Alabama, secret legal memorandums from the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel and the role of the former White House aides Karl Rove and Harriet E. Miers in the firing of federal prosecutors.

Mr. Bush has used his executive powers to block Congressional requests for executive branch documents and testimony from former aides. But investigators hope that the Obama administration will open the filing cabinets and withdraw assertions of executive privilege that Bush officials have invoked to keep from testifying.

“I intend to ensure that our outstanding subpoenas and document requests relating to the U.S. attorneys matter are enforced,” said Representative John Conyers Jr., Democrat of Michigan and chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. “I am hopeful that progress can be made with the coming of the new administration.”

Also, two advocacy groups, the American Civil Liberties Union and Human Rights First, have prepared detailed reports for the new administration calling for criminal investigations into accusations of abuse of detainees.

It is not clear, though, how a President Barack Obama will handle such requests. Legal specialists said the pressure to investigate the Bush years would raise tough political and legal questions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/washington/13inquire.html

Congress should have investigated the Bush administration years ago, however when it was in GOP hands the political will was entirely absent, and when the Democrats gained their razor thin majority in the Senate, they lacked the spine. In either case they abdicated their oversight responsibilities and turned a blind eye to the crimes of the Bush administration...Now is far too little far too late.

[red states rule]

Congress should have investigated the Bush administration years ago, however when it was in GOP hands the political will was entirely absent, and when the Democrats gained their razor thin majority in the Senate, they lacked the spine. In either case they abdicated their oversight responsibilities and turned a blind eye to the crimes of the Bush administration...Now is far too little far too late.

O yes BP let have the investagations and hearings.

The will no choice but to do it. They have to divert the attention off Obama once he is in office. They have to keep reporting on Bush and putting negative press out there so we all keep blaming Bush for all the nations ills

I am sure you smiled as you have heard the polls on how HUGE everyone's expectation is of him right now. It has been all over the news. These people think he descends from the clouds to speak. So he cant be exposed just yet. He needs all this negative press on Bush. And trust me, it will buy him a lot of time. Probably a yr or maybe 4.

It will be interesting to see how many of the people will admit they were wrong when they are all in financial ruin 2 yrs from now. Will they still be blaming Bush? More than likely!

[manu1959]

i wish our government would put the same amount of time, money and resources into solving americas issues as they do into assigning blame for why things are fucked up and fixing other countries.....

[Immanuel]

i wish our government would put the same amount of time, money and resources into solving americas issues as they do into assigning blame for why things are fucked up and fixing other countries.....

1/3 of the time would be more than sufficient, I am sure.

Immie

[red states rule]

i wish our government would put the same amount of time, money and resources into solving americas issues as they do into assigning blame for why things are fucked up and fixing other countries.....

You mean have Dems actually solve the probelems rather then use them as election issues?

Now that would be a first!!

I guess Obama's talk of "bipartisanship" goes out the window with this BS.

I want them to try and see how petty they look. Considering Bush made sure Clinton got a pass on all his crap

[namvet]

Congress should have investigated the Bush administration years ago, however when it was in GOP hands the political will was entirely absent, and when the Democrats gained their razor thin majority in the Senate, they lacked the spine. In either case they abdicated their oversight responsibilities and turned a blind eye to the crimes of the Bush administration...Now is far too little far too late.


Congress should have investigated the Bush administration years ago

how many dems does it take to do an investigation????:laugh2:

[red states rule]

how many dems does it take to do an investigation????:laugh2:

Obama and his cabinet will spend their 4 yrs investigating Bush administration because, that's what their agenda in the first place. Those "change" promises is nothing but BS. so even if mistakes happen under Obama admin. watch out, they will come out and still blame it to Pres Bush.

[namvet]

Obama and his cabinet will spend their 4 yrs investigating Bush administration because, that's what their agenda in the first place. Those "change" promises is nothing but BS. so even if mistakes happen under Obama admin. watch out, they will come out and still blame it to Pres Bush.

at the risk of exposing Klinton ???? I can only hope

[red states rule]

at the risk of exposing Klinton ???? I can only hope

I'm sure the BO transition team surrounded by old Clinton retreads so it will not happen

[namvet]

I'm sure the BO transition team surrounded by old Clinton retreads so it will not happen

not so fast. we still have enough on Klinton to put him in front of a firing squad. sandy burglar, when faced with prosecution will give up the old bastard.

[red states rule]

not so fast. we still have enough on Klinton to put him in front of a firing squad. sandy burglar, when faced with prosecution will give up the old bastard.

I think that will rely on how long they need to keep people blaming Pres Bush.

They may ride this horse for 4 yrs if teleprpmpter President cant deliver with people anxiously awaiting for that "change" that was supposed to fix everything, and make the sea levels decrease

[namvet]

I think that will rely on how long they need to keep people blaming Pres Bush.

They may ride this horse for 4 yrs if teleprpmpter President cant deliver with people anxiously awaiting for that "change" that was supposed to fix everything, and make the sea levels decrease

and the more they ride that horse the less gets done for the country.

[red states rule]

and the more they ride that horse the less gets done for the country.

Remember in his acceptance speech Obama started making exuses that the change he promised to his supporters he would need alot of time to deliver

They had shocked looks on their faces


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[Psychoblues]

It's about time the Dems grew some spine!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What goes around should certainly come around!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The prez and most of his administration ought to be in prison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Psychoblues

[red states rule]

It's about time the Dems grew some spine!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What goes around should certainly come around!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The prez and most of his administration ought to be in prison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Psychoblues

So much for the lefts call of bipartisanship

[namvet]

It's about time the Dems grew some spine!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What goes around should certainly come around!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The prez and most of his administration ought to be in prison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Psychoblues


The prez and most of his administration ought to be in prison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2008/09/26/previews/Bill%20Clinton-JTM-039677.jpg

[red states rule]

Who's going to investigate Obama? For all of the illegal foreign money, and all of the donations they received via untraceable prepaid credit cards?

Henry the Wax Man needs to be kept busy

[gabosaurus]

They investigated Clinton after he left office, so why not Bush? I would investigate the entire Bush administration for fraud and crimes against humanity.

[namvet]

They investigated Clinton after he left office, so why not Bush? I would investigate the entire Bush administration for fraud and crimes against humanity.

unlike Bush is was Klinton who mudered 3000 on 9-11. Klinton should have been executed for murder and dereliction of duty and cowardice in the face of the enemy. the cocksucker sould be be fuckin DEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gabosaurus]

The Sept. 11 attacks did not happen on Clinton's watch. Nor did Clinton utilize the specter of over 3,000 dead bodies for political advantage. Nor did he use the excuse of the 3,000 dead bodies to send more than 4,000 other Americans to their deaths. Clinton never started a war, nor did he badly fuck one up.
Bush deserves the same fate that Saddam got.

[Yurt]

The Sept. 11 attacks did not happen on Clinton's watch. Nor did Clinton utilize the specter of over 3,000 dead bodies for political advantage. Nor did he use the excuse of the 3,000 dead bodies to send more than 4,000 other Americans to their deaths. Clinton never started a war, nor did he badly fuck one up.
Bush deserves the same fate that Saddam got.

and of course you are going to say the same about the dems who authorized bush's actions....:poke:

that you would compare bush to saddam shows what a truly sad and angry person you are....and all this from the one that wants us to accept your guy because of the D next to his name

screw that, you reap what you sow

[namvet]

The Sept. 11 attacks did not happen on Clinton's watch. Nor did Clinton utilize the specter of over 3,000 dead bodies for political advantage. Nor did he use the excuse of the 3,000 dead bodies to send more than 4,000 other Americans to their deaths. Clinton never started a war, nor did he badly fuck one up.
Bush deserves the same fate that Saddam got.

Klinton KNEW the attack was coming. why didn't he stop it??? had a chance to kill or capture bin laden. well ????? so don't sit there and gimme your god damned liberal psyco babble. he's totally responsible !!!!!!!!!!! and what i do on his grave won't pass for flowers !!!!!!!!

[avatar4321]

Congress should have investigated the Bush administration years ago, however when it was in GOP hands the political will was entirely absent, and when the Democrats gained their razor thin majority in the Senate, they lacked the spine. In either case they abdicated their oversight responsibilities and turned a blind eye to the crimes of the Bush administration...Now is far too little far too late.

You can't turn a blind eye to crimes that dont exist. It's almost funny, if the crimes are so freaking obvious, what is there to investigate? You dont have anything on them. You know you dont.

[avatar4321]

They investigated Clinton after he left office, so why not Bush? I would investigate the entire Bush administration for fraud and crimes against humanity.

When the heck did anyone investigate Clinton after he left office? If they did, he and most of Obama's new change team would be in prison.

[namvet]

It's about time the Dems grew some spine!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What goes around should certainly come around!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The prez and most of his administration ought to be in prison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Psychoblues


"its Osama's fault!!!!!"