The Global Warming Swindle

[Sitarro]

I highly recommend the watching, with open eyes and brains, of this documetary on the rip off that is global warming. Especially those of you that are just so convinced at the moment, don't feel too bad when you watch this and see how much you have been screwed over, a lot of semi intelligent people have beleived it too.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4520665474899458831&q=The+Great+Global+Warming+Swindle

[Baron Von Esslingen]

Busted as a hoax! (http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/climate_change/article2347526.ece)


It was the television programme that set out to show that most of the world's climate scientists are misleading us when they say humanity is heating up the Earth by emitting carbon dioxide. And The Great Global Warming Swindle, screened by Channel 4 on Thursday night, convinced many viewers that it is indeed untrue that the gas is to blame for global warming.

But now the programme - and the channel - is facing a serious challenge to its own credibility after one of the most distinguished scientists that it featured said his views had been "grossly distorted" by the film, and made it clear that he believed human pollution did warm the climate.

Professor Carl Wunsch, professor of physical oceanography at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology said he had been "completely misrepresented" by the programme, and "totally misled" on its content. He added that he is considering making a formal complaint.

A Channel 4 spokesman said: "The film was a polemic that drew together the well-documented views of a number of respected scientists to reach the same conclusions. This is a controversial film but we feel that it is important that all sides of the debate are aired. If one of the contributors has concerns about his contribution we will look into that."

Any complaint would provoke a crisis at Channel 4, now recovering from the Jade Goody Big Brother storm. It had to make a rare public apology after the Independent Television Commission convicted previous programmes on environmental issues by the same film-maker, Martin Durkin, of similar offences - and is already facing questions on why it accepted another programme from him.

The commission found that the editing of interviews with four contributors to a series called Against Nature had "distorted or misrepresented their known views".

Professor Wunsch said: "I am angry because they completely misrepresented me. My views were distorted by the context in which they placed them. I was misled as to what it was going to be about. I was told about six months ago that this was to be a programme about how complicated it is to understand what is going on. If they had told me even the title of the programme, I would have absolutely refused to be on it. I am the one who has been swindled."

When told what the commission had found, he said: "That is what happened to me." He said he believes it is "an almost inescapable conclusion" that "if man adds excess CO2 to the atmosphere, the climate will warm".

He went on: "The movie was terrible propaganda. It is characteristic of propaganda that you take an area where there is legitimate dispute and you claim straight out that people who disagree with you are swindlers. That is what the film does in any area where some things are subject to argument."

Mr Durkin last night said that Professor Wunsch was "most certainly not duped into appearing into the programme" and that it "had not in any way misrepresented what he said".

Before the programme was shown, the IoS asked Channel 4 why it had commissioned another film from Mr Durkin and, further, whether it was making any special checks on its accuracy.

A spokesman said the programme made by Mr Durkin for which it had had to apologise was a decade old, adding: "We treat Martin as any other film-maker."

* David Cameron will tomorrow unveil three schemes to tax air travel in order to combat global warming. He is to consult on whether to impose VAT or fuel duty on domestic flights, institute a flight tax targeted at the most polluting engines, or to set up a "green miles scheme" to tax frequent flyers at a higher rate. The revenue raised would be used for tax cuts to help families.

The cold, hard facts about global warming

What do most scientists believe caused global warming?

The vast majority are convinced it is human emissions of carbon dioxide. It was established scientifically 180 years ago - and has never been seriously disputed - that natural levels of the gas given off by decaying vegetation and the oceans help to keep the Earth warm; without it, and other natural greenhouse gases, the planet would be some 20C colder and we would freeze. Adding even the so far relatively small amounts from human activities makes us warmer.

Has the world warmed before?

Yes, and big warmings over prehistoric times were not started by increasing CO2 levels; changes in solar activity are more likely. Levels of the gas started rising some 800 years into the warming, but then probably reinforced it, making it bigger and longer. Temperature and CO2 are interdependent; when one goes up the other follows. This time it is different because vast amounts of the gas are being artificially put into the atmosphere by humans.

What about more recent history?

There was a warm period in Europe in the Middle Ages, again probably caused by solar activity, but it does not seem to have been a worldwide phenomenon, although records are scanty.

So is the sun responsible now?

Some sceptics say so and probably it played the major role until quite recently. But over the past three decades, solar activity has scarcely risen, while temperatures have shot up - a fact disguised in the film. What has gone up is CO2 and even top sceptic Nigel Lawson admits it is "highly likely" that the gas has "played a significant part" in global warming this century.

The Swindle is a swindle and has been properly exposed for the hoax it is. Junk science, I think it's called.

[stephanie]

:laugh2: I love it..
These scientist in this movie are junk scientist..

But Al Bores scientists in his movie are........REAL scientist..

Give us a break..

The TRUE JUNK scientist is...............Al Bore.

[Baron Von Esslingen]

Actually, Al is the first to admit that he isn't a scientist but rather a retired politician trying to do something good. And he is succeeding fabulously. And the Global Warming Swindle is still exposed as a hoax.

[stephanie]

Yeah..Al Bore deffinetly has all the moonbats won over.

Anybody with half a brain can see through his BS..
This doesn't have a thing to do with global warming or climate change..

It's about power, control and socialism..

Thank goodness, most Americans aren't buying into it..

[Sitarro]

Actually, Al is the first to admit that he isn't a scientist but rather a retired politician trying to do something good. And he is succeeding fabulously. And the Global Warming Swindle is still exposed as a hoax.

So one scientist out of many changes his mind because he is offended that he wasn't an assistant director of the film and that makes the whole thing a hoax to you? That is so very typical of the illogical liberal's poor excuse for a mind.
Nothing in your article says anything to truely dispute the extremely logical observations in the film. The "Global Warming" business is a skam with many people making a lot of money from it and that is a fact that is obvious to anyone with a analytical mind.
The fact is your hero Algore doesn't do a damn thing he wants to force us to do and that leads me to believe he doesn't even buy the bullshit he's selling. His scheduling of promotions and lectures has him flying back and forth across the country to repeat the same shit that was finally put into a comedy that was shown instantaniously across the country.....why did it take him so long to figure that out.The fact is he drives around in large gas guzzling vehicles and aircraft....a lot. He and his wife use 20 times more energy than the average American in one home that he is obviously rarely in, who knows what their other vacant properties use. Why doesn't his exorbitant lifestyle and total hypocrisy bother you? Again, very typical, he is a Democrat.

Don't even bother with the carbon credit scam, he's an asshole for that also.

[stephanie]

Don't forget Al Gore's zinc mine, that has polluted a lot of the land and water around it..

Hypocrite.........Socialist.... is what he and the Democrat party are.

And the word is being spread about it, and they can't stand it..

Thank goodness for the Internet, talk radio, and Fox News..:cheers2:

[-Cp]

I already posted this here:
http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=2000

[TheStripey1]

Yeah..Al Bore deffinetly has all the moonbats won over.

Anybody with half a brain can see through his BS..
This doesn't have a thing to do with global warming or climate change..

It's about power, control and socialism..

Thank goodness, most Americans aren't buying into it..

It's about power and control alright... the power and control BY oil companies to stay powerful and in control... that you righties buy into their ploy is the REAL joke... do you really think they give a damn about your welfare?

ALL they care about is seperating you from your money... and as quickly as possible too... so how much is gas in your neighborhood these days, stiffy?

:dance:

[TheStripey1]

Don't forget Al Gore's zinc mine, that has polluted a lot of the land and water around it..

:cheers2:

Got a link?

:dance:

[stephanie]

Got a link?

:dance:

Plenty of links on it..
It's common knowledge Bore owns a zinc mine..But here's one I figured you all wouldn't say was biased...Even thought it is in Bore's favor..But read deep into the article, it tells about all the damage, and pollution it has caused..
Now only today, since he's running his *environmental* scam, is he worried about it becoming safe.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-03-18-goremine_N.htm
Here's another.
http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/al_gore.htm

Now you all can dance to that..:dance:

[Sitarro]

I already posted this here:
http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=2000

I noticed that after I had posted it. You beat me by 5 hours, damn it! I don't know why they weren't combined.

[Sitarro]

Plenty of links on it..
It's common knowledge Bore owns a zinc mine..But here's one I figured you all wouldn't say was biased...Even thought it is in Bore's favor..But read deep into the article, it tells about all the damage, and pollution it has caused..
Now only today, since he's running his *environmental* scam, is he worried about it becoming safe.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-03-18-goremine_N.htm
Here's another.
http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/al_gore.htm

Now you all can dance to that..:dance:

:clap: :clap: :clap:

[Sitarro]

It's about power and control alright... the power and control BY oil companies to stay powerful and in control... that you righties buy into their ploy is the REAL joke... do you really think they give a damn about your welfare?

ALL they care about is seperating you from your money... and as quickly as possible too... so how much is gas in your neighborhood these days, stiffy?

:dance:

So you are one of those that think that it is the "oil companies" that sets gasoline prices.....you might want to check Wall Street and the speculators that are in reality gambling addicts, they gamble whether Americans will not do anything different, that they will continue to speed along in huge trucks called SUVs and burn every gallon of fuel that is produced.

On top of that, there hasn't been a new refinery built in 30 years, there is a finite supply of gas, supply and demand....it is actually quite simple. The solution is the hard part.

[TheStripey1]

So you are one of those that think that it is the "oil companies" that sets gasoline prices.....you might want to check Wall Street and the speculators that are in reality gambling addicts, they gamble whether Americans will not do anything different, that they will continue to speed along in huge trucks called SUVs and burn every gallon of fuel that is produced.

On top of that, there hasn't been a new refinery built in 30 years, there is a finite supply of gas, supply and demand....it is actually quite simple. The solution is the hard part.


You must be one of those that think that there's no connection between the highest gas prices ever and the highest oil company profits ever.

30 years? Who's fault is that? Gonna blame Clinton for it? What about your grande hero, Ronnie Raygun? Or George the first? Finite supply of gas? Then why don't the big three produce cars that don't drink gas?

How much is gas in your neighborhood? It's $3.45/ gallon for premium in mine. The same as it was right after Katrina... so what's their reasoning now? besides wanting more money...

[Mr. P]

You must be one of those that think that there's no connection between the highest gas prices ever and the highest oil company profits ever.

30 years? Who's fault is that? Gonna blame Clinton for it? What about your grande hero, Ronnie Raygun? Or George the first? Finite supply of gas? Then why don't the big three produce cars that don't drink gas?

How much is gas in your neighborhood? It's $3.45/ gallon for premium in mine. The same as it was right after Katrina... so what's their reasoning now? besides wanting more money...

$2.65 here. Yer on the left coast with all the environmental wackos. Hey, they even impose special car emission stuff out there don't they? You pay almost a dollar more than I do because of it. :poke:

[Dilloduck]

$2.65 here. Yer on the left coast with all the environmental wackos. Hey, they even impose special car emission stuff out there don't they? You pay almost a dollar more than I do because of it. :poke:

LOL--just consider as you would paying a carbon credit everytime you fill up !

[TheStripey1]

what's the matta, sitarro? Don't you buy gas in your neighborhood? surely you must know how much gas is in your town...

you DO drive don't you?

:dance:

[TheStripey1]

$2.65 here. Yer on the left coast with all the environmental wackos. Hey, they even impose special car emission stuff out there don't they? You pay almost a dollar more than I do because of it. :poke:

that's 80 cents, P... 80 cents...

yep, we like to breathe clean air out here... since we have more cars than you have peanuts... we produce more, dare I say it, greenhouse gases... so we have more stringent controls on our emissions than y'all out there... but... the time will come, Mr. P, when all of america will have the same controls... and the oil companies will still rake in the dough...

[glockmail]

So one scientist out of many changes his mind because he is offended that he wasn't an assistant director of the film and that makes the whole thing a hoax to you? That is so very typical of the illogical liberal's poor excuse for a mind.
Nothing in your article says anything to truely dispute the extremely logical observations in the film. The "Global Warming" business is a skam with many people making a lot of money from it and that is a fact that is obvious to anyone with a analytical mind.
The fact is your hero Algore doesn't do a damn thing he wants to force us to do and that leads me to believe he doesn't even buy the bullshit he's selling. His scheduling of promotions and lectures has him flying back and forth across the country to repeat the same shit that was finally put into a comedy that was shown instantaniously across the country.....why did it take him so long to figure that out.The fact is he drives around in large gas guzzling vehicles and aircraft....a lot. He and his wife use 20 times more energy than the average American in one home that he is obviously rarely in, who knows what their other vacant properties use. Why doesn't his exorbitant lifestyle and total hypocrisy bother you? Again, very typical, he is a Democrat.

Don't even bother with the carbon credit scam, he's an asshole for that also.

Crickets are getting loud waiting for Baron's response.

Let's try to keep n subject boys and girls instead of complaining about gas prices- or I'll bring nukes into the fray. :poke:

[Baron Von Esslingen]

Crickets are getting loud waiting for Baron's response.

Sorry. I don't respond to sick motherfuckers anymore. They all run to their favorite mods to whine about the "treatment" they get at my hands. My post spoke for itself.

[glockmail]

Sorry. I don't respond to sick motherfuckers anymore. They all run to their favorite mods to whine about the "treatment" they get at my hands. My post spoke for itself. Somehow I don't see sitaro "running to a mod" for help, nor do I see a "mod" helping. Maybe you have been owned?

[darin]

Sorry. I don't respond to sick motherfuckers anymore. They all run to their favorite mods to whine about the "treatment" they get at my hands. My post spoke for itself.

That's EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Knock it off, Baron.

[glockmail]

That's EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Knock it off, Baron.
oooohhh- you got toooooolld! :laugh2:

[Baron Von Esslingen]

And you got your answer, too.

[glockmail]

And you got your answer, too. Looks like the Baron got owned and told in the same thread. :laugh2: