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LiberalNation
12-24-2008, 01:54 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_police_er;_ylt=AiTegf8rqQP1a2fDzqbRzSMDW7oF

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) – In a survey of a random sample of U.S. emergency physicians, virtually all said they believed that law enforcement officers use excessive force to arrest and detain suspects.

The sample included 315 respondents. While 99.8 percent believed excessive force is used, almost as many (97.8 percent) reported that they had managed cases that they suspected or that the patient stated had involved excessive use of force by law enforcement officers.

Nearly two thirds (65.3 percent) estimated that they had treated two or more cases of suspected excessive use of force per year among their patients, according to a report of the survey published in the January 2009 issue of the Emergency Medicine Journal.

Dr. Jared Strote of the University of Washington, Seattle, and a multicenter team also found that emergency physicians at public teaching hospitals were roughly four times more likely to report managing cases of suspected use of excessive force than those at university or community teaching emergency departments.

Blunt trauma inflicted by fists or feet was the most common type of injury cited in cases of suspected use of excessive force, followed by "overly tight" handcuffs.

Most emergency physicians (71.2 percent) admitted that they did not report cases of suspected use of excessive force by law enforcement officers.

A large majority (96.5 percent) reported that they had no departmental policies on reporting their suspicions or they did not know of a policy to guide their actions, and 93.7 percent said they had received no education or training in dealing with these situations.

manu1959
12-24-2008, 03:03 PM
excessive force.......what crap....


if the crooks would struggle less the force would be less excessive.......

Missileman
12-24-2008, 06:38 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_police_er;_ylt=AiTegf8rqQP1a2fDzqbRzSMDW7oF

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) – In a survey of a random sample of U.S. emergency physicians, virtually all said they believed that law enforcement officers use excessive force to arrest and detain suspects.

The sample included 315 respondents. While 99.8 percent believed excessive force is used, almost as many (97.8 percent) reported that they had managed cases that they suspected or that the patient stated had involved excessive use of force by law enforcement officers.

Nearly two thirds (65.3 percent) estimated that they had treated two or more cases of suspected excessive use of force per year among their patients, according to a report of the survey published in the January 2009 issue of the Emergency Medicine Journal.

Dr. Jared Strote of the University of Washington, Seattle, and a multicenter team also found that emergency physicians at public teaching hospitals were roughly four times more likely to report managing cases of suspected use of excessive force than those at university or community teaching emergency departments.

Blunt trauma inflicted by fists or feet was the most common type of injury cited in cases of suspected use of excessive force, followed by "overly tight" handcuffs.

Most emergency physicians (71.2 percent) admitted that they did not report cases of suspected use of excessive force by law enforcement officers.

A large majority (96.5 percent) reported that they had no departmental policies on reporting their suspicions or they did not know of a policy to guide their actions, and 93.7 percent said they had received no education or training in dealing with these situations.

What a pile of crap...these doctors have no clue what happened on scene between the cops and the perpetrators...none. That the bad guys are receiving substantial injuries could easily be an indication they put up substantial resistance to arrest.

emmett
12-24-2008, 08:12 PM
NEW POLICE CUSTODY DOCTRINE / Effective Jan 20, 2009.


Before a perpretraitor may be labeled as such, it must be determined by the Supreme Court of the State in which the accused lives, within ninety days from the time the officer needs it to take place.

When arresting a suspect, oops, I left out a part. Before a perpretraitor can be actually labelled a "suspect", it must be determined by the Supreme Court of the State in which the prospective suspect resides. If such decision is not satisfactory with the named suspect, he / she may appeal this decision and can only be labelled a prospective perpretraitor in the interim.

All suspects and perpretraitors are to be asked if they are comfortable, this would include but not be limited to, tightness of handcuffs, the comfort level of the seat of the police car and rather the cop pulled their pants up too far after chasing them down. If the later is applicable, the officer is to immediately assist the suspect in pulling them back down to his knees!


Each suspect will be entitled to a luxury cell, top notch catered food and an endless supply of whatever they need to be comfortable. Persons making over 250,000 a year can pay for it!


There will be no more references to suspects as being male or female. This is sexual profiling and is insulting to gays. It hurts their feelings and is insensative! There will be no more of this. Failure to adhere to this law will result in a hate crime charge being filed against the police officer in question, for making reference to the sex of an individual in custody.


All prisoners and persons in custody as of January 20, 2009 are to be notified of their prospective rights and entitlements. As part of the new stimulous package, a schloarship will now be awarded to each inmate upon release so they can be educated. People making over 250,000 can pay for this.

Persons in custody must now read Miranda rights to arresting officers!

Police officers may not point guns at suspects or perpretraitors. This is intimidating and makes suspects run. This is a violation of their civil rights, it works in England and while their crime rate is on the rise (up over 300%), at least they have stopped shooting suspects when fired upon.

All judges will now be Democrats! Republicans have biused views on crime and cannot fairly serve on the bench! Any suspect who feels like he / she has been treated unfairly by a judge may appeal, and have their case heard before the State Supreme Court before accepting sentence. In the event that a convicted criminal feels unfairly sentenced, they may appeal, go home and await the results of their appeal. This will solve the overcrowding problem in our nation's prisons and jails.

Confessions may no longer be used against criminals. A confession is a misleading, when juries hear this evidence they are far more like ly to convict than otherwise. It is a violation of a suspects civil rights to have confession evidence heard in a court room.

If at any time a suspect becomes disenchanted for any reason, either during trial, while in custody or even in the police car, he may grab the gun of a nearby law enforcement officer and shoot them, the judge if he chooses and bystanders if necessary. (Case Law - See Fulton county courthouse in Ga. Terry Whathisname)

Mr. P
12-24-2008, 08:59 PM
NEW POLICE CUSTODY DOCTRINE / Effective Jan 20, 2009.


Before a perpretraitor may be labeled as such, it must be determined by the Supreme Court of the State in which the accused lives, within ninety days from the time the officer needs it to take place.

When arresting a suspect, oops, I left out a part. Before a perpretraitor can be actually labelled a "suspect", it must be determined by the Supreme Court of the State in which the prospective suspect resides. If such decision is not satisfactory with the named suspect, he / she may appeal this decision and can only be labelled a prospective perpretraitor in the interim.

All suspects and perpretraitors are to be asked if they are comfortable, this would include but not be limited to, tightness of handcuffs, the comfort level of the seat of the police car and rather the cop pulled their pants up too far after chasing them down. If the later is applicable, the officer is to immediately assist the suspect in pulling them back down to his knees!


Each suspect will be entitled to a luxury cell, top notch catered food and an endless supply of whatever they need to be comfortable. Persons making over 250,000 a year can pay for it!


There will be no more references to suspects as being male or female. This is sexual profiling and is insulting to gays. It hurts their feelings and is insensative! There will be no more of this. Failure to adhere to this law will result in a hate crime charge being filed against the police officer in question, for making reference to the sex of an individual in custody.


All prisoners and persons in custody as of January 20, 2009 are to be notified of their prospective rights and entitlements. As part of the new stimulous package, a schloarship will now be awarded to each inmate upon release so they can be educated. People making over 250,000 can pay for this.

Persons in custody must now read Miranda rights to arresting officers!

Police officers may not point guns at suspects or perpretraitors. This is intimidating and makes suspects run. This is a violation of their civil rights, it works in England and while their crime rate is on the rise (up over 300%), at least they have stopped shooting suspects when fired upon.

All judges will now be Democrats! Republicans have biused views on crime and cannot fairly serve on the bench! Any suspect who feels like he / she has been treated unfairly by a judge may appeal, and have their case heard before the State Supreme Court before accepting sentence. In the event that a convicted criminal feels unfairly sentenced, they may appeal, go home and await the results of their appeal. This will solve the overcrowding problem in our nation's prisons and jails.

Confessions may no longer be used against criminals. A confession is a misleading, when juries hear this evidence they are far more like ly to convict than otherwise. It is a violation of a suspects civil rights to have confession evidence heard in a court room.

If at any time a suspect becomes disenchanted for any reason, either during trial, while in custody or even in the police car, he may grab the gun of a nearby law enforcement officer and shoot them, the judge if he chooses and bystanders if necessary. (Case Law - See Fulton county courthouse in Ga. Terry Whathisname)

Terry Nichols...He got some 500 yrs plus 6 life sentences without parole.

emmett
12-24-2008, 09:13 PM
Terry Nichols...He got some 500 yrs plus 6 life sentences without parole.

My point P, that's after we spent 4 million on him for a defense team, extra security and litigation expense. If ever there was a case where someone should have got the good bye juice, it was that worthless excuse for a human being!

Mr. P
12-24-2008, 11:08 PM
My point P, that's after we spent 4 million on him for a defense team, extra security and litigation expense. If ever there was a case where someone should have got the good bye juice, it was that worthless excuse for a human being!

I agree.

Classact
12-25-2008, 07:56 AM
Merry Christmas everyone!

Back in the 60's and 70's I worked the road and street as an airborne MP and use of necessary force was necessary quite often, I've been in the target of men holding big pieces of oak sticks, pistols and shotguns, beat up, had my front teeth knocked out, my uniform ripped up, my boots trampled on and seen civilian policeman sliced across the back with a knife by a suspect. We had most of our problems with drunks/high on drugs and normally were the cases requiring force most often... the rule of thumb was hurt a partner, or damage the clothing the report would read, at the above time, date and location subject smith assaulted MP Jones, see attached statement, while resisting apprehention. Smith and Jones were then transported to Womack Army HOspital where Smith was treated for injuries listed on emergency room form at attachment, Jones suffered minor contusions and abrasions and required no treatment.

In Germany the police get respect and if they don't they put egg sized knots on your head until they do and few people, drunk or sober question their rights to have respect.