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red states rule
01-03-2009, 07:01 AM
Since so many innocent people are dying the US needs to pull out of Chicago. We are not wanted there so why do we stay where we are not welcome?

It is clear the plan to restore order in Chicago is failing, and we need to redeploy our law enforcement resources

It is a combat zone in Chicago and the state of IL

The failed leadership in Il and Chicago has to rethink their plan to stop the slaughter

PE Barack Obama, Dick Durbin, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., Gov. Rod Blogojevich, House leader Mike Madigan, Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan , and Mayor Richard M. Daley have been miserable failures

Liberals can't blame Republicans - there aren't any in IL

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h52EpowYaBSvhNpzVmCSdclP_fjwD95DTIB80

and

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-homicides-chicago_02jan02,0,55475.story

PostmodernProphet
01-03-2009, 07:53 AM
liberals warn....if you attack the gangs that are selling drugs, the collateral damage will incite others to join the gangs, thus increasing drug traffic......./shrugs, hey the argument worked for terrorism, didn't it?......

red states rule
01-03-2009, 09:31 AM
Some of the change could be, we will no longer waterboard terrorists. No, we will subject them to surf boarding

Gitmo terrorists to be relocated to Hawaii, but not near the Obama's vacation home.

April15
01-03-2009, 06:39 PM
liberals warn....if you attack the gangs that are selling drugs, the collateral damage will incite others to join the gangs, thus increasing drug traffic......./shrugs, hey the argument worked for terrorism, didn't it?......For several years anyway. But when none existed before it does say something about the power of killing to incite recruitment!

April15
01-03-2009, 06:48 PM
For charts on the rise in poverty this is a site that covers ALL of ILL.
http://www.heartlandalliance.org/whatwedo/advocacy/reports/2007chicagoareasnapshot.pdf

To compare it to Ragons time there is this
Chicago, America’s third largest city, is a case study in urban poverty.

Chicago contains ten of the nation’s sixteen poorest neighborhoods, according to Roosevelt University urbanologist Pierre DeVise. One half of all children in the city are poor.

The past two years have seen a dramatic increase in poverty and its effects. One of these "effects" is hunger.

Malnutrition and hunger are evident. The Mayor’s Task Force on Hunger reported in October, 1984 that up to 50% of the infants of poor women studied at Chicago hospitals suffered from iron deficiency, caused by inadequate nutrition, which can lead to permanent behavioral and neurological disorders.

Dr. Katherine Christoffel of The Children’s Memorial Hospital told me her hospital has documented sixteen cases of marasmus and kwasiorkor, which are starvation-related diseases, in the past four years. Generally these Third World diseases are not looked for. "If we kept good records, we would probably be shocked," she said.

Infant mortality is high. Dr. Howard Levi, Head of Pediatrics at Mt. Sinai Hospital, believes infant mortality in Chicago’s west side ghetto rivals that of Third World countries.

Another "effect" of poverty is violence. Dr. Levi and his staff have been tracking child abuse cases. "Poverty and stress are significant contributors to abuse–but," he cautioned, "it’s not cause and effect, not an exact equation. But these variables impact on it greatly."

Gang violence on the west side has reached epidemic proportions. I was told by nuns and social workers at Merillac House, a Catholic settlement house, that food is used as much as drugs and money to lure teenagers to join gangs.

In addition there is the problem of teenage pregnancy. The black community is hardest hit by this phenomenon. Merillac House has girls as young as 11 and 12 in its prenatal program.

I focused on Chicago’s predominantly black west side ghetto. But poverty in Chicago is not limited to minorities. As steel mills and other industrial plants close down, long term unemployment is becoming increasingly common to Chicago’s "Eastern European" ethnic, Irish, and other white neighborhoods.

©1985 Stephen Shames

red states rule
01-03-2009, 06:54 PM
For charts on the rise in poverty this is a site that covers ALL of ILL.
http://www.heartlandalliance.org/whatwedo/advocacy/reports/2007chicagoareasnapshot.pdf

To compare it to Ragons time there is this
Chicago, America’s third largest city, is a case study in urban poverty.

Chicago contains ten of the nation’s sixteen poorest neighborhoods, according to Roosevelt University urbanologist Pierre DeVise. One half of all children in the city are poor.

The past two years have seen a dramatic increase in poverty and its effects. One of these "effects" is hunger.

Malnutrition and hunger are evident. The Mayor’s Task Force on Hunger reported in October, 1984 that up to 50% of the infants of poor women studied at Chicago hospitals suffered from iron deficiency, caused by inadequate nutrition, which can lead to permanent behavioral and neurological disorders.

Dr. Katherine Christoffel of The Children’s Memorial Hospital told me her hospital has documented sixteen cases of marasmus and kwasiorkor, which are starvation-related diseases, in the past four years. Generally these Third World diseases are not looked for. "If we kept good records, we would probably be shocked," she said.

Infant mortality is high. Dr. Howard Levi, Head of Pediatrics at Mt. Sinai Hospital, believes infant mortality in Chicago’s west side ghetto rivals that of Third World countries.

Another "effect" of poverty is violence. Dr. Levi and his staff have been tracking child abuse cases. "Poverty and stress are significant contributors to abuse–but," he cautioned, "it’s not cause and effect, not an exact equation. But these variables impact on it greatly."

Gang violence on the west side has reached epidemic proportions. I was told by nuns and social workers at Merillac House, a Catholic settlement house, that food is used as much as drugs and money to lure teenagers to join gangs.

In addition there is the problem of teenage pregnancy. The black community is hardest hit by this phenomenon. Merillac House has girls as young as 11 and 12 in its prenatal program.

I focused on Chicago’s predominantly black west side ghetto. But poverty in Chicago is not limited to minorities. As steel mills and other industrial plants close down, long term unemployment is becoming increasingly common to Chicago’s "Eastern European" ethnic, Irish, and other white neighborhoods.

©1985 Stephen Shames


April, how can there be poverty in Chicago?

Chicago and the entire state of IL is run for liberals by liberals. Sky high taxes, and liberalism is the law of the land no matter where you go

Chicago and the state of Il should be Utopia

April15
01-03-2009, 09:39 PM
The last eight years have seen the biggest increase in poverty in this nation since LBJ.

MidAmerica
Institute on Poverty of Heartland Alliance
4411 N. Ravenswood
Chicago, IL 60640
ph: 773.336.6075
www.heartlandalliance.org/maip/
Creating a State of Opportunity
2007 Report on Illinois Poverty: Chicago Area Snapshot
The seventh annual Report on Illinois Poverty
illustrates that there are many indications Illinois
families are experiencing significant hardship. Over
one third of Illinoisans in poverty are children,
disparities in income and wealth are widening, young
adults fa

Well it didn't copy to well.
Poverty Summary
For more data by county, definitions, and explanations of data sources,
refer to the Appendix of the 2007 Report on Illinois Poverty.
1 U.S. Census Bureau, Decennial Census 2000.
2 U.S. Census Bureau, American Community Survey 2005.
3 U.S. Census Bureau, Decennial Census 2000 and American Community Survey 2005, calculation conducted by the MidAmerica
Institute on
Poverty of Heartland Alliance.
4 Booza, J.C., Cutsinger, J., & Galster, George. (2006, June). Where did they go? The decline of middleincome
neighborhoods in metropolitan
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measureid=2841
21 U.S. Census Bureau, Decennial Census 2000 and American Community Survey 2005, calculation conducted by the MidAmerica
Institute on
Poverty of Heartland Alliance.
22 U.S. Census Bureau, Decennial Census 2000 and American Community Survey 2005, calculation conducted by the MidAmerica
Institute on
Poverty of Heartland Alliance.
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The Illinois Poverty Summit is an initiative of Heartland Alliance for Human Needs & Human Rights.
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manu1959
01-03-2009, 09:50 PM
so ill got progressively worse under obama......great....