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avatar4321
01-12-2009, 08:27 PM
For years we have had liberals claiming that President Bush is going to remain in office and declare himself dictator for life. I was just wondering if any of them feel stupid now. If they were wrong on that how many other things were they wrong on?

April15
01-12-2009, 09:08 PM
I am glad I am wrong. I am glad he did not fake some attack to make martial law possible so he could nullify the election. But what is so sad is that he was so aloof and out of touch that the idea of him doing it was in the realm of reality!

avatar4321
01-12-2009, 09:11 PM
I am glad I am wrong. I am glad he did not fake some attack to make martial law possible so he could nullify the election. But what is so sad is that he was so aloof and out of touch that the idea of him doing it was in the realm of reality!

no. it wasn't.

Silver
01-12-2009, 09:18 PM
I am glad I am wrong. I am glad he did not fake some attack to make martial law possible so he could nullify the election. But what is so sad is that he was so aloof and out of touch that the idea of him doing it was in the realm of reality!

You're glad you were wrong.....????

Why don't just recognize what a stupid ignorant asshole you are for ever believing such a fuckin' moronic thing to begin with ???

"glad you were wrong"....??????? Its difficult to imagine anyone with a working brain would ever consider a different scenario......

How freekin' brainwashed are you? or should I say braindead?

bullypulpit
01-12-2009, 09:19 PM
For years we have had liberals claiming that President Bush is going to remain in office and declare himself dictator for life. I was just wondering if any of them feel stupid now. If they were wrong on that how many other things were they wrong on?

Better to expect the worst and hope for the best, particularly given Dubbyuh's thoughts on dictatorships...

<blockquote>"You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier." Describing what it's like to be governor of Texas.
(Governing Magazine 7/98)

-- From Paul Begala's "Is Our Children Learning?"

"I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.

-- CNN.com, December 18, 2000

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it, " [Bush] said.

-- Business Week, July 30, 2001</blockquote>

April15
01-12-2009, 09:32 PM
You're glad you were wrong.....????

Why don't just recognize what a stupid ignorant asshole you are for ever believing such a fuckin' moronic thing to begin with ???

"glad you were wrong"....??????? Its difficult to imagine anyone with a working brain would ever consider a different scenario......

How freekin' brainwashed are you? or should I say braindead?When it came to Bush I saw and heard his words. They instilled in me a fear for this nation and the freedoms we have. After his attack on Iraq I felt vindicated. When homeland security came to my house to question me I knew he was evil.

April15
01-12-2009, 09:37 PM
Better to expect the worst and hope for the best, particularly given Dubbyuh's thoughts on dictatorships...

<blockquote>"You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier." Describing what it's like to be governor of Texas.
(Governing Magazine 7/98)

-- From Paul Begala's "Is Our Children Learning?"

"I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.

-- CNN.com, December 18, 2000

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it, " [Bush] said.

-- Business Week, July 30, 2001</blockquote>

This is an interesting article. I think it's worth sharing. The last paragraph addresses your comment.

"Criticism of the Bush Administration's response to September11 echoes Mr Smith's warning. On June 7 the former presidential counsel John Dean spoke of America's sliding into a "constitutional dictatorship" and martial law."

Foundations are in place for martial law in the US

July 27 2002

Recent pronouncements from the Bush Administration and national security initiatives put in place in the Reagan era could see internment camps and martial law in the United States.

When president Ronald Reagan was considering invading Nicaragua he issued a series of executive orders that provided the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) with broad powers in the event of a "crisis" such as "violent and widespread internal dissent or national opposition against a US military invasion abroad". They were never used.

But with the looming possibility of a US invasion of Iraq, recent pronouncements by President George Bush's domestic security chief, Tom Ridge, and an official with the US Civil Rights Commission should fire concerns that these powers could be employed or a de facto drift into their deployment could occur.

On July 20 the Detroit Free Press ran a story entitled "Arabs in US could be held, official warns". The story referred to a member of the US Civil Rights Commission who foresaw the possibility of internment camps for Arab Americans. FEMA has practised for such an occasion.

FEMA, whose main role is disaster response, is also responsible for handling US domestic unrest.

From 1982-84 Colonel Oliver North assisted FEMA in drafting its civil defence preparations. Details of these plans emerged during the 1987 Iran-Contra scandal.

They included executive orders providing for suspension of the constitution, the imposition of martial law, internment camps, and the turning over of government to the president and FEMA.

A Miami Herald article on July 5, 1987, reported that the former FEMA director Louis Guiffrida's deputy, John Brinkerhoff, handled the martial law portion of the planning. The plan was said to be similar to one Mr Giuffrida had developed earlier to combat "a national uprising by black militants". It provided for the detention "of at least 21million American Negroes"' in "assembly centres or relocation camps".

Today Mr Brinkerhoff is with the highly influential Anser Institute for Homeland Security. Following a request by the Pentagon in January that the US military be allowed the option of deploying troops on American streets, the institute in February published a paper by Mr Brinkerhoff arguing the legality of this.

He alleged that the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which has long been accepted as prohibiting such deployments, had simply been misunderstood and misapplied.

The preface to the article also provided the revelation that the national plan he had worked on, under Mr Giuffrida, was "approved by Reagan, and actions were taken to implement it".

By April, the US military had created a Northern Command to aid Homeland defence. Reuters reported that the command is "mainly expected to play a supporting role to local authorities".

However, Mr Ridge, the Director of Homeland Security, has just advocated a review of US law regarding the use of the military for law enforcement duties.

Disturbingly, the full facts and final contents of Mr Reagan's national plan remain uncertain. This is in part because President Bush took the unusual step of sealing the Reagan presidential papers last November. However, many of the key figures of the Reagan era are part of the present administration, including John Poindexter, to whom Oliver North later reported.

At the time of the Reagan initiatives, the then attorney-general, William French Smith, wrote to the national security adviser, Robert McFarlane: "I believe that the role assigned to the Federal Emergency Management Agency in the revised Executive Order exceeds its proper function as a co-ordinating agency for emergency preparedness ... this department and others have repeatedly raised serious policy and legal objections to an 'emergency czar' role for FEMA."

Criticism of the Bush Administration's response to September11 echoes Mr Smith's warning. On June 7 the former presidential counsel John Dean spoke of America's sliding into a "constitutional dictatorship" and martial law.

By Ritt Goldstein
Ritt Goldstein is an investigative journalist and a former leader in the movement for US law enforcement accountability. He revealed exclusively in the Herald last week the Bush Administration's plans for a domestic spying system more pervasive than the Stasi network in East Germany

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002...l?oneclick=true
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emmett
01-12-2009, 09:39 PM
Better to expect the worst and hope for the best, particularly given Dubbyuh's thoughts on dictatorships...

<blockquote>"You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier." Describing what it's like to be governor of Texas.
(Governing Magazine 7/98)

-- From Paul Begala's "Is Our Children Learning?"

"I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.

-- CNN.com, December 18, 2000

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it, " [Bush] said.

-- Business Week, July 30, 2001</blockquote>


Now that is what I like to see..... links to substantial fact. This proves Bush is a dicktater all right.

Silver
01-12-2009, 09:50 PM
When it came to Bush I saw and heard his words. They instilled in me a fear for this nation and the freedoms we have. After his attack on Iraq I felt vindicated. When homeland security came to my house to question me I knew he was evil.

You seem like the kind of mentally unbalanced ass that homeland security should keep close tabs on....

Silver
01-12-2009, 09:57 PM
This is an interesting article. I think it's worth sharing. The last paragraph addresses your comment.

"Criticism of the Bush Administration's response to September11 echoes Mr Smith's warning. On June 7 the former presidential counsel John Dean spoke of America's sliding into a "constitutional dictatorship" and martial law."

Foundations are in place for martial law in the US

July 27 2002

Recent pronouncements from the Bush Administration and national security initiatives put in place in the Reagan era could see internment camps and martial law in the United States.

When president Ronald Reagan was considering invading Nicaragua he issued a series of executive orders that provided the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) with broad powers in the event of a "crisis" such as "violent and widespread internal dissent or national opposition against a US military invasion abroad". They were never used.

But with the looming possibility of a US invasion of Iraq, recent pronouncements by President George Bush's domestic security chief, Tom Ridge, and an official with the US Civil Rights Commission should fire concerns that these powers could be employed or a de facto drift into their deployment could occur.

On July 20 the Detroit Free Press ran a story entitled "Arabs in US could be held, official warns". The story referred to a member of the US Civil Rights Commission who foresaw the possibility of internment camps for Arab Americans. FEMA has practised for such an occasion.

FEMA, whose main role is disaster response, is also responsible for handling US domestic unrest.

From 1982-84 Colonel Oliver North assisted FEMA in drafting its civil defence preparations. Details of these plans emerged during the 1987 Iran-Contra scandal.

They included executive orders providing for suspension of the constitution, the imposition of martial law, internment camps, and the turning over of government to the president and FEMA.

A Miami Herald article on July 5, 1987, reported that the former FEMA director Louis Guiffrida's deputy, John Brinkerhoff, handled the martial law portion of the planning. The plan was said to be similar to one Mr Giuffrida had developed earlier to combat "a national uprising by black militants". It provided for the detention "of at least 21million American Negroes"' in "assembly centres or relocation camps".

Today Mr Brinkerhoff is with the highly influential Anser Institute for Homeland Security. Following a request by the Pentagon in January that the US military be allowed the option of deploying troops on American streets, the institute in February published a paper by Mr Brinkerhoff arguing the legality of this.

He alleged that the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which has long been accepted as prohibiting such deployments, had simply been misunderstood and misapplied.

The preface to the article also provided the revelation that the national plan he had worked on, under Mr Giuffrida, was "approved by Reagan, and actions were taken to implement it".

By April, the US military had created a Northern Command to aid Homeland defence. Reuters reported that the command is "mainly expected to play a supporting role to local authorities".

However, Mr Ridge, the Director of Homeland Security, has just advocated a review of US law regarding the use of the military for law enforcement duties.

Disturbingly, the full facts and final contents of Mr Reagan's national plan remain uncertain. This is in part because President Bush took the unusual step of sealing the Reagan presidential papers last November. However, many of the key figures of the Reagan era are part of the present administration, including John Poindexter, to whom Oliver North later reported.

At the time of the Reagan initiatives, the then attorney-general, William French Smith, wrote to the national security adviser, Robert McFarlane: "I believe that the role assigned to the Federal Emergency Management Agency in the revised Executive Order exceeds its proper function as a co-ordinating agency for emergency preparedness ... this department and others have repeatedly raised serious policy and legal objections to an 'emergency czar' role for FEMA."

Criticism of the Bush Administration's response to September11 echoes Mr Smith's warning. On June 7 the former presidential counsel John Dean spoke of America's sliding into a "constitutional dictatorship" and martial law.

By Ritt Goldstein
Ritt Goldstein is an investigative journalist and a former leader in the movement for US law enforcement accountability. He revealed exclusively in the Herald last week the Bush Administration's plans for a domestic spying system more pervasive than the Stasi network in East Germany

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002...l?oneclick=true
__________________

All it shows is that you will believe anything that will reinforce you particular insanity and insane ideas....your Bushhate is so profound that you're susceptible to all kinds of ludicrous ideas as long as those ideas reinforce your phobia....you would be a natural candidate for the Manson family or the Jonesville crazies .....
You need help....you need serious help....

Little-Acorn
01-12-2009, 10:03 PM
the idea of him doing it was in the realm of reality!

Only to glassy-eyed fanatics who wouldn't recognize a dictator if one "spread his wealth around" right out from under him.

Silver
01-12-2009, 10:09 PM
When it came to Bush I saw and heard his words. They instilled in me a fear for this nation and the freedoms we have. After his attack on Iraq I felt vindicated. When homeland security came to my house to question me I knew he was evil.

Don't you realize what a fuckin' crackpot you must be to have homeland security come to your home and question you?
You need to have a good long talk with yourself....moron:cheers2:

manu1959
01-12-2009, 10:20 PM
When it came to Bush I saw and heard his words. They instilled in me a fear for this nation and the freedoms we have. After his attack on Iraq I felt vindicated. When homeland security came to my house to question me I knew he was evil.

homeland security was voted on by the house and senate.....pelosi boxer and fienstien all voted for it.....

Kathianne
01-12-2009, 10:24 PM
I am glad I am wrong. I am glad he did not fake some attack to make martial law possible so he could nullify the election. But what is so sad is that he was so aloof and out of touch that the idea of him doing it was in the realm of reality!

Not for a nanosecond, it was you all that were delusional, and now as bully would put it, the Obama is kicking you in the nuts. Indeed, but you WILL like it and ask for more. Welcome to the new neo-cons.

avatar4321
01-13-2009, 01:55 AM
When it came to Bush I saw and heard his words. They instilled in me a fear for this nation and the freedoms we have. After his attack on Iraq I felt vindicated. When homeland security came to my house to question me I knew he was evil.

Homeland Security came to your house?

Gaffer
01-13-2009, 09:32 AM
There was never any threat what-so-ever that Bush would create a dictatorship. The libs were so wrong to even suggest it. But....look who's taking office now. What will fours bring us? Maybe the libs were right, they just had the wrong administration pegged as the culprits.

namvet
01-13-2009, 09:43 AM
the dictatorship starts jan 20.

stephanie
01-13-2009, 09:50 AM
the dictatorship starts jan 20.

and the sheep will willingly follow off the cliff to their deaths.

will be ugly to watch

namvet
01-13-2009, 10:28 AM
and the sheep will willingly follow off the cliff to their deaths.

will be ugly to watch

no thanks !!! ive already made my plans to leave this country if it gets that bad.

PostmodernProphet
01-13-2009, 10:46 AM
one often suspects that the folks who inhabit forums are leading a double life....sane rational human being by day, irrational post thumper by night.....in April's case we can be assured that she's just as bad in real life as she is here.....

avatar4321
01-13-2009, 11:35 AM
I see no evidence that Obama is any more of a dictator than Bush was.

April15
01-13-2009, 01:26 PM
All it shows is that you will believe anything that will reinforce you particular insanity and insane ideas....your Bushhate is so profound that you're susceptible to all kinds of ludicrous ideas as long as those ideas reinforce your phobia....you would be a natural candidate for the Manson family or the Jonesville crazies .....
You need help....you need serious help....Who would be there for you when the knock comes?

April15
01-13-2009, 01:27 PM
You seem like the kind of mentally unbalanced ass that homeland security should keep close tabs on....I have an agent of the FBI living across the street now. Does that count? Nice guy and his wife is cool.

April15
01-13-2009, 01:29 PM
Only to glassy-eyed fanatics who wouldn't recognize a dictator if one "spread his wealth around" right out from under him.Your self diagnosis? I would have thought better of you, But .

April15
01-13-2009, 01:30 PM
There was never any threat what-so-ever that Bush would create a dictatorship. The libs were so wrong to even suggest it. But....look who's taking office now. What will fours bring us? Maybe the libs were right, they just had the wrong administration pegged as the culprits.I seriously doubt it.

April15
01-13-2009, 01:31 PM
homeland security was voted on by the house and senate.....pelosi boxer and fienstien all voted for it.....
Yes they did.

April15
01-13-2009, 01:34 PM
one often suspects that the folks who inhabit forums are leading a double life....sane rational human being by day, irrational post thumper by night.....in April's case we can be assured that she's just as bad in real life as she is here.....I would like to set you straight on one thing, I am male. I prepared taxes and was an accountant hence the moniker of April15, tax day. The visit by homeland made the accounting impossible as I had clients all around the world.

Sitarro
01-13-2009, 01:39 PM
Better to expect the worst and hope for the best, particularly given Dubbyuh's thoughts on dictatorships...

<blockquote>"You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier." Describing what it's like to be governor of Texas.
(Governing Magazine 7/98)

-- From Paul Begala's "Is Our Children Learning?"

"I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.

-- CNN.com, December 18, 2000

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it, " [Bush] said.

-- Business Week, July 30, 2001</blockquote>

President Bush nervously joked around with the press corp trying to get them to like him. The humorless left didn't get it because he didn't have a D next to his name, Clinton could say a Blow Job wasn't sex and they thought that was funny even though he was actually being serious. The Business Week quote sounds like a flippant remark that no sane person would take the least bit seriously. The fact is Bush is the anti-politician, he was too sincere for the skeptics to understand so they built stupid scenarios and conspiracy theories to explain how he was actually hiding his true self.

Silver
01-13-2009, 04:23 PM
homeland security was voted on by the house and senate.....pelosi boxer and fienstien all voted for it.....

I hate my anger management class......:lol::lol::lol:


Can't help it manu....sometimes the stupidity is so gross, I have to let go with both barrels....:laugh2::cheers2: