Obama to GOP: 'I won'

[stephanie]

By JONATHAN MARTIN & CAROL E. LEE | 1/23/09 2:31 PM EST Text Size:


President Obama meets with Congressional leaders in the Roosevelt Room of the White House. From left are House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, House Minority Leader John Boehner and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

President Obama listened to Republican gripes about his stimulus package during a meeting with congressional leaders Friday morning - but he also left no doubt about who's in charge of these negotiations. "I won," Obama noted matter-of-factly, according to sources familiar with the conversation.

The exchange arose as top House and Senate Republicans expressed concern to the president about the amount of spending in the package. They also raised red flags about a refundable tax credit that returns money to those who don’t pay income taxes, the sources said.

The Republicans stressed that they want to include more middle class tax cuts in the package, citing their proposal to cut the two lowest tax rates — 15 percent and 10 percent — to ten percent and five percent, rather than issue the refundable credit Obama wants.


read the rest..
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17862.html

[Noir]

"sources familiar with the conversation"

What an odd way to write, I don't really have anything to add or ask about the story, but this line just stood out, meh.

[Kathianne]

"sources familiar with the conversation"

What an odd way to write, I don't really have anything to add or ask about the story, but this line just stood out, meh.

It means folks at the meeting.

Great find, Stephanie!

[stephanie]

a bit more has leaked out from the meeting today..what friggin nerve, I don't think he wants to mess with Rush Limbaugh audience..

By CHARLES HURT, BUREAU CHIEF

Last updated: 8:15 pm
January 23, 2009
Posted: 8:13 pm
January 23, 2009

WASHINGTON -- President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.

"You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," he told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to discuss his nearly $1 trillion stimulus package.

One White House official confirmed the comment but said he was simply trying to make a larger point about bipartisan efforts.

"There are big things that unify Republicans and Democrats," the official said. "We shouldn't let partisan politics derail what are very important things that need to get done."

That wasn't Obama's only jab at Republicans today.

While discussing the stimulus package with top lawmakers in the White House's Roosevelt Room, President Obama shot down a critic with a simple message.

"I won," he said, according to aides who were briefed on the meeting. "I will trump you on that."


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http://www.nypost.com/seven/01232009/news/politics/prez_zings_gop_foe_in_a_timulating_talk_151572.htm

[gabosaurus]

I thought you were against "unnamed source," Ms. Unicorn?
It's not anything that the Bushies didn't say in 2001 -- "the election is over, we won, get over it." Of course, it's always different when you are on the other side of the decision.

[stephanie]

I thought you were against "unnamed source," Ms. Unicorn?
It's not anything that the Bushies didn't say in 2001 -- "the election is over, we won, get over it." Of course, it's always different when you are on the other side of the decision.

you need to grow up..our country doesn't run the way you played in grade school.

[hjmick]

"I won."

Nice. Certainly the type of attitude that leads to bringing people together. What's next? Nanner nanner nanner?

[red states rule]

a bit more has leaked out from the meeting today..what friggin nerve, I don't think he wants to mess with Rush Limbaugh audience..

By CHARLES HURT, BUREAU CHIEF

Last updated: 8:15 pm
January 23, 2009
Posted: 8:13 pm
January 23, 2009

WASHINGTON -- President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.

"You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," he told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to discuss his nearly $1 trillion stimulus package.

One White House official confirmed the comment but said he was simply trying to make a larger point about bipartisan efforts.

"There are big things that unify Republicans and Democrats," the official said. "We shouldn't let partisan politics derail what are very important things that need to get done."

That wasn't Obama's only jab at Republicans today.

While discussing the stimulus package with top lawmakers in the White House's Roosevelt Room, President Obama shot down a critic with a simple message.

"I won," he said, according to aides who were briefed on the meeting. "I will trump you on that."


read the rest and comments.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01232009/news/politics/prez_zings_gop_foe_in_a_timulating_talk_151572.htm

When was the last time the Republican party did listen to Rush? It is clear the pary has rejected all the advice he has given them, and the country got Pres Obama because of it

Pres Obama should be thanking the Republicans for NOT listening to people like Rush and Sean Hannity

[red states rule]

By JONATHAN MARTIN & CAROL E. LEE | 1/23/09 2:31 PM EST Text Size:


President Obama meets with Congressional leaders in the Roosevelt Room of the White House. From left are House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, House Minority Leader John Boehner and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

President Obama listened to Republican gripes about his stimulus package during a meeting with congressional leaders Friday morning - but he also left no doubt about who's in charge of these negotiations. "I won," Obama noted matter-of-factly, according to sources familiar with the conversation.

The exchange arose as top House and Senate Republicans expressed concern to the president about the amount of spending in the package. They also raised red flags about a refundable tax credit that returns money to those who don’t pay income taxes, the sources said.

The Republicans stressed that they want to include more middle class tax cuts in the package, citing their proposal to cut the two lowest tax rates — 15 percent and 10 percent — to ten percent and five percent, rather than issue the refundable credit Obama wants.


read the rest..
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17862.html

Translation - "You Republicans need to check your values at the door, and let the partisan democrats have their way, and try to smile will ya?"

[Kathianne]

What cracks me up is that if Bush or any Republican president said 'he was going to listen to other ideas' and then said, 'I won,' the hubris would have been made codified. The 'nuance' of "I listen", meaning, 'I'll listen, but don't expect to be taken seriously,' too would have been clarified by the press.

When Obama said it, 'It's just a fact.'

[Kathianne]

When was the last time the Republican party did listen to Rush? It is clear the pary has rejected all the advice he has given them, and the country got Pres Obama because of it

Pres Obama should be thanking the Republicans for NOT listening to people like Rush and Sean Hannity

One of the reader's over at Instapundit pointed out that if Obama keeps this up, it could render any attempt at a fairness doctrine moot, as it would seem more like a Nixonian 'enemies list.' Could really be the case, Obama is not that savvy at national politics and now has more than a few issues before him, I can envision some basic mistakes like this one. In fact, in the past 3 days, he's managed to step into more than a few piles of doo doo.

[red states rule]

One of the reader's over at Instapundit pointed out that if Obama keeps this up, it could render any attempt at a fairness doctrine moot, as it would seem more like a Nixonian 'enemies list.' Could really be the case, Obama is not that savvy at national politics and now has more than a few issues before him, I can envision some basic mistakes like this one. In fact, in the past 3 days, he's managed to step into more than a few piles of doo doo.

Rush couldn't get any better publicity than that, if he tried Kat

If I was a talk radio host, there is nothing I would want more than to be damned by Obama.

Meanwhile, Obama's rookie mistakes is gving Rush (and other hosts) mountians of new material

[red states rule]

What cracks me up is that if Bush or any Republican president said 'he was going to listen to other ideas' and then said, 'I won,' the hubris would have been made codified. The 'nuance' of "I listen", meaning, 'I'll listen, but don't expect to be taken seriously,' too would have been clarified by the press.

When Obama said it, 'It's just a fact.'

Bipartisan, reach across the aisle, hmmmmm?

McCain must have told him to say it :laugh2: The unintentional comedy meter was through the roof in that article.

[Joe Steel]

"I won."

Nice. Certainly the type of attitude that leads to bringing people together. What's next? Nanner nanner nanner?

We can never be united as long as Republicans exist and the first step to getting rid of them is reminding both them and the public at large that they have been rejected by the American People.

Rejected.

The People chose the Democrats to run the country. They saw the horrors wrought by Republicans and said resoundingly "No More!"

[red states rule]

We can never be united as long as Republicans exist and the first step to getting rid of them is reminding both them and the public at large that they have been rejected by the American People.

Rejected.

The People chose the Democrats to run the country. They saw the horrors wrought by Republicans and said resoundingly "No More!"

Germany had the same idea about the Jews in 1932

[Joe Steel]

Translation - "You Republicans need to check your values at the door, and let the partisan democrats have their way, and try to smile will ya?"

No.

It's translated: The American People have rejected Republican values because hate and greed are not American values.

[red states rule]

No.

It's translated: The American People have rejected Republican values because hate and greed are not American values.

Someohow I do not think you held the will of the voters in such high esteem in 2000, 2002, and 2004

[Joe Steel]

Germany had the same idea about the Jews in 1932

Nonsense.

The only valid comparison with Germany is its rebuilding after the Nazis were defeated. Now that they've been driven out of Washington, rebuilding America can begin.

[Joe Steel]

Someohow I do not think you held the will of the voters in such high esteem in 2000, 2002, and 2004

The American People have been duped by the likes of Rush Limbaugh. That's the point: stop listening to Limbaugh.

[red states rule]

Nonsense.

The only valid comparison with Germany is its rebuilding after the Nazis were defeated. Now that they've been driven out of Washington, rebuilding America can begin.

It fits your rants perfectly. You posted how Republicans need to be killed Joe - so I can see you supporting the same polices Germany had against the Jews except the Dems would impose them against the Republicans

[bullypulpit]

Indeed, he did win. It would seem that the GOP found out what a mere "community organizer" can do...Deliver a political ass whuppin'

[red states rule]

Indeed, he did win. It would seem that the GOP found out what a mere "community organizer" can do...Deliver a political ass whuppin'

He won BP

Now he has to accomplish things and deliver on his promisies. So far he is stepping in it left and right

He is flip floping on key issues, and showing what a raw rookie he really is

[bullypulpit]

He won BP

Now he has to accomplish things and deliver on his promisies. So far he is stepping in it left and right

He is flip floping on key issues, and showing what a raw rookie he really is

:link:

[Kathianne]

:link:

Bully read: http://www.nytimes.com

[red states rule]

:link:

Back to playing dumb again eh?

Pres Obama has backed off tax increase on the "righ"

No windfall profit tax on oil companies

No day one pullout of Iraq

No day on eclosing of Gitmo. He said it would be a "disappointment" if it was not closed by the end of his first term

No increase on the corparate, dividend, and capital gains tax

Now he admits we will have trilion dollar deficts for YEARS - when he said he would control spending

[Joe Steel]

It fits your rants perfectly. You posted how Republicans need to be killed Joe - so I can see you supporting the same polices Germany had against the Jews except the Dems would impose them against the Republicans

I see your point.

I suppose we could give them a fair trial first.

[stephanie]

Indeed, he did win. It would seem that the GOP found out what a mere "community organizer" can do...Deliver a political ass whuppin'

of course the voter fraud by Acorn helped, and all that foreign money he accepted.

this is going to be a disaster for our country.

[Joe Steel]

of course the voter fraud by Acorn helped, and all that foreign money he accepted.

this is going to be a disaster for our country.

Peace and prosperity are a disaster?

I guess you have Republican values.

[red states rule]

of course the voter fraud by Acorn helped, and all that foreign money he accepted.

this is going to be a disaster for our country.

They also helped pump up the corwd count at his party last Tues

Actually about 800,000 showed up - and 1,000,000 ACORN voters made up the rest of the liberal media's count of the turnout

It does not look like a record breaking to me

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/7896/inaugqp2.jpg

[stephanie]

Peace and prosperity are a disaster?

I guess you have Republican values.



Socialism always brings misery and discontent.

[red states rule]

Socialism always brings despair and discontent.

It explains why liberals are more unhappy then conservatives Steph

[Joe Steel]

Socialism always brings misery and discontent.

Socialism is the last hope for mankind. It, and only it, can bring universal peace and prosperity.

[stephanie]

Socialism is the last hope for mankind. It, and only it, can bring universal peace and prosperity.

you can really say that with a straight face..

everywhere where Socialism is applied, there is misery, despair, unrest, and you would love nothing more to see that here, isn't that your goal?

[red states rule]

Socialism is the last hope for mankind. It, and only it, can bring universal peace and prosperity.

Then why are people trying to flee Cuba everyday?

Why are you living here Joe, and not in Venezuela?

[avatar4321]

We can never be united as long as Republicans exist and the first step to getting rid of them is reminding both them and the public at large that they have been rejected by the American People.

Rejected.

The People chose the Democrats to run the country. They saw the horrors wrought by Republicans and said resoundingly "No More!"

Keep doing that. I encourage you. cause youll continue looking like an idiot.

[avatar4321]

No.

It's translated: The American People have rejected Republican values because hate and greed are not American values.

No. just your values.

[avatar4321]

Indeed, he did win. It would seem that the GOP found out what a mere "community organizer" can do...Deliver a political ass whuppin'

Winning the election and actually doing things are totally different

[red states rule]

No. just your values.

I wonder if Joe remembers Hillary's words "we have the right to dissent"!

Well, so do conservatives!

[avatar4321]

Socialism is the last hope for mankind. It, and only it, can bring universal peace and prosperity.

The only time socialism and hope go in a sentence together is when someone says: I hope we never turn to socialism.

[Joe Steel]

you can really say that with a straight face..

everywhere where Socialism is applied, there is misery, despair, unrest, and you would love nothing more to see that here, isn't that your goal?

Sorry, no.

True socialism has never been tried. Western Europe is as close as we've gotten and compared with the US, it's a paradise.

[Joe Steel]

Then why are people trying to flee Cuba everyday?

Because the US has conducted economic war against Cuba for almost 50 years. When that war is finally ended, Cuba will blossom.


Why are you living here Joe, and not in Venezuela?

To save conservatives from themselves.

[Joe Steel]

I wonder if Joe remembers Hillary's words "we have the right to dissent"!

Well, so do conservatives!

I agree and wouldn't even consider an alternative. Dissent is to be encouraged. Lying, however, in the name of dissent, is not. Stop listening to Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, et al and be recognized as true Americans not fascist stooges.

[stephanie]

I agree and wouldn't even consider an alternative. Dissent is to be encouraged. Lying, however, in the name of dissent, is not. Stop listening to Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, et al and be recognized as true Americans not fascist stooges.

who should we listen to, Randi Rhodes, Keith Olbermann, Rosy O'Donnell, the lying lamesteam media???

these are the TRUE AMERCIAN VOICES...

what a joke, the hardon you lefties have for the conservative voice in American..

[red states rule]

who should we listen to, Randi Rhodes, Keith Olbermann, Rosy O'Donnell, the lying lamesteam media???

these are the TRUE AMERCIAN VOICES...

what a joke, the hardon you lefties have for the conservative voice in American..

I love how liberals told us "dissent" was patriotic for eight years, now all of a sudden, we have to wish Obama to succeed,; and if you don't you want America to fail

[OCA]

you can really say that with a straight face..

everywhere where Socialism is applied, there is misery, despair, unrest, and you would love nothing more to see that here, isn't that your goal?

Do some research on the Scandinavian countries and their brand of socialist democracy, not a whole lot of unrest there, but I guess you were just spouting off some horseshit you heard on the radio on your way to getting your nails done.

[stephanie]

Do some research on the Scandinavian countries and their brand of socialist democracy, not a whole lot of unrest there, but I guess you were just spouting off some horseshit you heard on the radio on your way to getting your nails done.


I don't have my nails done, turd brain..get off on the wrong side of the bed AGAIN, or haven't got any for awhile cause your such a grouchy old fart?

go bellow at someone else,K:beer:

[red states rule]

I don't have my nails done, turd brain..get off on the wrong side of the bed AGAIN, or haven't got any for awhile cause your such a grouchy old fart?

go bellow at someone else,K:beer:

Steph, take it easy on OCA. His ego was deflated after Jim handed him his ass 2 weeks ago, and is still in a foul mood

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=20721&page=7

[OCA]

I don't have my nails done, turd brain..get off on the wrong side of the bed AGAIN, or haven't got any for awhile cause your such a grouchy old fart?

go bellow at someone else,K:beer:

I guess you haven't changed, attack the messenger instead of the message when you don't understand the message.

Go figure.

[OCA]

Steph, take it easy on OCA. His ego was deflated after Jim handed him his ass 2 weeks ago, and is still in a foul mood

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=20721&page=7

Careful there RSR, i'm not sure how you swing but i'm pretty sure Jimmy don't go for guys trying to blow him, especially guys who ran his board down on another board.

[stephanie]

I guess you haven't changed, attack the messenger instead of the message when you don't understand the message.

Go figure.

and you're still the same, come out in full bore attack mode..

but I guess you were just spouting off some horseshit you heard on the radio on your way to getting your nails done.
so I replied in a nice gentle way to get outta my face.:thumb:

[OCA]

and you're still the same, come out in full bore attack mode..

so I replied in a nice gentle way to get outta my face.:thumb:

Anything less is for pussies, difference between me and you is mine have something to do with the topic which makes them sting more.

Maybe you could take a lesson from me.

[stephanie]

Anything less is for pussies, difference between me and you is mine have something to do with the topic which makes them sting more.

Maybe you could take a lesson from me.

I don't want to be as hateful as you are, and in a constant state of anger, so I will not be taking any lessons from you..thanks anyway..

[OCA]

I don't want to be as hateful as you are, and in a constant state of anger, so I will not be taking any lessons from you..thanks anyway..

Oh no, your constant unhinged attacks on the POTUS are not anger filled.

Sorry, my mistake.

[OCA]

BTW, not in a constant state of anger, happy as fuck to see the RINOS bounced out of town and hope spring eternal for once.

[stephanie]

Oh no, your constant unhinged attacks on the POTUS are not anger filled.

Sorry, my mistake.

I've never made any bones of the fact I don't like the man, his ideas, his thuggish ways, his associations, even before he became the President..I don't plan on changing that..

sorry if it bothers you so.

now go call a whambulance

[OCA]

I've never made any bones of the fact I don't like the man, his ideas, his thuggish ways, his associations, even before he became the President..I don't plan on changing that..

sorry if it bothers you so.

now go call a whambulance

But yet you attack others and say they are hate filled, see the hypocricy?

Oh and BTW, just how in the hell is he thuggish?

[stephanie]

But yet you attack others and say they are hate filled, see the hypocricy?

Oh and BTW, just how in the hell is he thuggish?

Read up on how he was elected to the Senate in Chicago, plus he's from the Chicago political machine, we've all seen how that is run..you think hanging out with domestic terrorist and attending a Black liberation church, makes him a gentle soul...I think not..
I do a lot more reading than thinking of having my nails done, you should try it.

now go call a wambulance..

[OCA]

Read up on how he was elected to the Senate in Chicago, plus he's from the Chicago political machine, we've all seen how that is run..you think hanging out with domestic terrorist and attending a Black liberation church, makes him a gentle soul...I think not..
I do a lot more reading than thinking of having my nails done, you should try it.

now go call a wambulance..

I admit that would be bad...................if any of it were true.

[stephanie]

I admit that would be bad...................if any of it were true.

It's all true..sorry to burst you little bubble.

[OCA]

It's all true..sorry to burst you little bubble.

And yet he was elected president................go figure.

lol

[stephanie]

And yet he was elected president................go figure.

lol

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