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Little-Acorn
02-05-2009, 06:15 PM
http://www.papamiket.com/?p=14306

Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists, and Obama supporters..

We have stuck together since the late 1950痴, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know, we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but, sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot, and will not ever agree on what is right, so let痴 just end it on friendly terms. We can smile, chalk it up to irreconcilable differences, and go our own way.

Here is a model separation agreement:

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friend ly agr eement. After that it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

We don稚 like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we値l take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O奪onnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them) .

We値l keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies, and illegal aliens. We値l keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO痴, and rednecks. We値l keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood.

You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we値l retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks, and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we値l help provide them security.

We値l keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, and Shirley McClaine. You can also have the U.N. But we will no longer be paying the bill.

We値l keep the SUVs, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare, if you can find any practicing doctors. We値l continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We値l keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I知 sure you値l be happy to substitute "Imagine", "I壇 Like to Teach the World to Sing", "Kum Ba Ya", or "We Are the World".

We値l practice trickle down economics, and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you we値l keep our history, our name, and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots, and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I値l bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely, John J. Wall
Law Student and an American

P.S. Also, please take Barbara Streisand & Jane Fonda

Abbey Marie
02-05-2009, 06:21 PM
I contemplated dividing the country on the board (or USMB) a long time ago! I joked about which side would be invaded, and which side would collapse from overwhelming social programs and a lack of a tax base to fund them. Funny thing, it's not so funny anymore. We are practically there now without separating. On both counts.

Yurt
02-05-2009, 06:38 PM
america is an interesting concept. competing idealogues seemingly live side by side and when the votes come in, a peaceful transition is made. this is a rare form of government in the world's history. where we are supposedly governed by our will and not that of a tyrant or king.

while the thread is somewhat tongue n cheek, does it stand for the proposition that america does not actually work?

darin
02-05-2009, 06:49 PM
Why they hatin' on Subarus!! :(

:-/

:)

Immanuel
02-05-2009, 07:19 PM
Tongue 'n' cheek yes, but one thing that always bugs me about these kinds of things is... who has to move? I'm basically conservative and would put myself in the conservative side of that agreement and live in the South. Good for me as my guess is since the South is mostly seen as conservative the libs would probably not want it anyway. But I was born and raised in California and that is still my native land and regardless of the morons who control it today, I still love California.

Anyway, how the heck could we possibly consider dividing up our country in such a manner? There are conservatives who live in the Northeast. Do they lose their homes and are forced to move South because of this "arrangement". How about the liberals in the South? Do we run them out on a rail?

I've got a better idea... let's just send the career politicians back to their homes and get them out of our government and let America be led by Americans who care about America rather than power, greed and corruption. I will gladly be a neighbor to a liberal as long as that liberal is not a politician.

Immie

Kathianne
02-05-2009, 07:49 PM
Tongue 'n' cheek yes, but one thing that always bugs me about these kinds of things is... who has to move? I'm basically conservative and would put myself in the conservative side of that agreement and live in the South. Good for me as my guess is since the South is mostly seen as conservative the libs would probably not want it anyway. But I was born and raised in California and that is still my native land and regardless of the morons who control it today, I still love California.

Anyway, how the heck could we possibly consider dividing up our country in such a manner? There are conservatives who live in the Northeast. Do they lose their homes and are forced to move South because of this "arrangement". How about the liberals in the South? Do we run them out on a rail?

I've got a better idea... let's just send the career politicians back to their homes and get them out of our government and let America be led by Americans who care about America rather than power, greed and corruption. I will gladly be a neighbor to a liberal as long as that liberal is not a politician.

Immie
I'm living in a blue state, we neighbors all get along. I happen to be in a townhome, and the woman next door to me to the west is more of a liberal than I am a conservative. I mean, her first choice was Dennis Kucinich, Obama was 2nd best. She had bumper stickers, yard signs, etc.

Yet, when she's going out of town, I take in her mail and my kids park in her driveway. When I'm gone, she watches my dog. She kept an eye out for my dad when I was at work, if he didn't come 'out' by 11 a.m., she'd give him a call. I kept an eye on her home when her son had an 'addiction problem' and I was home hours she wasn't. Both of us care for each other.

I've seen the same at work, mostly the other teachers are liberal, yet they respect me and my opinions. It's how our country, flaws and all, works.

Immanuel
02-05-2009, 07:57 PM
I'm living in a blue state, we neighbors all get along. I happen to be in a townhome, and the woman next door to me to the west is more of a liberal than I am a conservative. I mean, her first choice was Dennis Kucinich, Obama was 2nd best. She had bumper stickers, yard signs, etc.

Yet, when she's going out of town, I take in her mail and my kids park in her driveway. When I'm gone, she watches my dog. She kept an eye out for my dad when I was at work, if he didn't come 'out' by 11 a.m., she'd give him a call. I kept an eye on her home when her son had an 'addiction problem' and I was home hours she wasn't. Both of us care for each other.

I've seen the same at work, mostly the other teachers are liberal, yet they respect me and my opinions. It's how our country, flaws and all, works.

www.bornagainamerican.org

Saw this link to another site on another political site. I'm sure you post there as well, but your post made me think of the video in it. As I watched the video, I thought of America the Beautiful. I thought of how great it is that we can live in a land where conservatives and liberals live as neighbors and despite political beliefs we love and take care of each other.

Immie

Yurt
02-05-2009, 08:01 PM
I'm living in a blue state, we neighbors all get along. I happen to be in a townhome, and the woman next door to me to the west is more of a liberal than I am a conservative. I mean, her first choice was Dennis Kucinich, Obama was 2nd best. She had bumper stickers, yard signs, etc.

Yet, when she's going out of town, I take in her mail and my kids park in her driveway. When I'm gone, she watches my dog. She kept an eye out for my dad when I was at work, if he didn't come 'out' by 11 a.m., she'd give him a call. I kept an eye on her home when her son had an 'addiction problem' and I was home hours she wasn't. Both of us care for each other.

I've seen the same at work, mostly the other teachers are liberal, yet they respect me and my opinions. It's how our country, flaws and all, works.

you are an example of why this country works. we are neighbors, not enemies.

nice post

Little-Acorn
02-05-2009, 08:24 PM
Anyway, how the heck could we possibly consider dividing up our country in such a manner?
You're reading way too much into this.

The point of the OP, was to point out that a society living by what conservatives have professed to want all along, would survive much better than a society living only with the things liberals have professed to support.

Simple, actually.

Yurt
02-05-2009, 08:44 PM
You're reading way too much into this.

The point of the OP, was to point out that a society living by what conservatives have professed to want all along, would survive much better than a society living only with the things liberals have professed to support.

Simple, actually.

while the thread is somewhat tongue n cheek, does it stand for the proposition that america does not actually work?

Immanuel
02-05-2009, 08:53 PM
You're reading way too much into this.

The point of the OP, was to point out that a society living by what conservatives have professed to want all along, would survive much better than a society living only with the things liberals have professed to support.

Simple, actually.

Actually, I completely understood that.

I was not criticizing the piece at all. Just observing that America is a wonderful place to live simply because of our diversity.

Besides... I'm not moving because y'all can't get along. I think I do pretty damn good getting along with both conservatives and liberals. :D

Immie

Kathianne
02-05-2009, 09:07 PM
Actually, I completely understood that.

I was not criticizing the piece at all. Just observing that America is a wonderful place to live simply because of our diversity.

Besides... I'm not moving because y'all can't get along. I think I do pretty damn good getting along with both conservatives and liberals. :D

Immie

Yeah, me too. I wouldn't get along in a land of those that hate Catholics or at the minimum want us to leave the church for Baptist time. I'm not into literalism, no more than the Koran.

I also manage to have respect if no agreement with other religions. I don't want our public schools to be clones of private.

I'm sort of a weird conservative. Not alone though.

gabosaurus
02-05-2009, 09:18 PM
What an idiot. :lmao:

Kathianne
02-05-2009, 09:19 PM
What an idiot. :lmao:

Who Gabby? Who is an idiot?

bullypulpit
02-06-2009, 07:07 AM
You're reading way too much into this.

The point of the OP, was to point out that a society living by what conservatives have professed to want all along, would survive much better than a society living only with the things liberals have professed to support.

Simple, actually.

Simple indeed, especially when you consider that it was "conservative" ideology that gave us our current financial crisis, the illegal invasion and occupation of a sovereign state, torture, extralegal prisons and vigorous efforts to undermine the Constitution. Than you President Bush.

red states rule
02-06-2009, 07:38 AM
Simple indeed, especially when you consider that it was "conservative" ideology that gave us our current financial crisis, the illegal invasion and occupation of a sovereign state, torture, extralegal prisons and vigorous efforts to undermine the Constitution. Than you President Bush.

It is more like thank you Dems. Rememebr when Pres Bush wanted to reform Fannie and Freddie - and Dems said there was no problem?

Dems said it was "racist" Republicans who did not want minorities to own a home?

Yes, Republicans liberated Iraq and took out a dictator - while Dems wanted to surrender and appease

darin
02-06-2009, 08:22 AM
Still can't believe they're hatin' on subaru... :( (sigh)...

darin
02-06-2009, 08:25 AM
Just observing that America is a wonderful place to live simply because of our diversity.


I'd say in spite of our diversity. The diverse groups getting along is the exception to the rule, in terms of History-of-the-World frankly. People generally gravitate towards those like them.

We don't NEED total diversity. We need to be a melting pot again - not a salad.

5stringJeff
02-06-2009, 08:49 AM
Anyone remember these pictures from 2004:

http://www.hey-guess-what.com/blog-pics/jesusland.jpg

The Left was talking about splitting for the last eight years. Now the Right is talking about it. Maybe there's more support for this than people think.

April15
02-06-2009, 03:28 PM
http://www.papamiket.com/?p=14306

Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists, and Obama supporters..

We have stuck together since the late 1950痴, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know, we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but, sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot, and will not ever agree on what is right, so let痴 just end it on friendly terms. We can smile, chalk it up to irreconcilable differences, and go our own way.

Here is a model separation agreement:

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friend ly agr eement. After that it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

We don稚 like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we値l take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O奪onnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them) .

We値l keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies, and illegal aliens. We値l keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO痴, and rednecks. We値l keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood.

You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we値l retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks, and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we値l help provide them security.

We値l keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, and Shirley McClaine. You can also have the U.N. But we will no longer be paying the bill.

We値l keep the SUVs, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare, if you can find any practicing doctors. We値l continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We値l keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I知 sure you値l be happy to substitute "Imagine", "I壇 Like to Teach the World to Sing", "Kum Ba Ya", or "We Are the World".

We値l practice trickle down economics, and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you we値l keep our history, our name, and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots, and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I値l bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely, John J. Wall
Law Student and an American

P.S. Also, please take Barbara Streisand & Jane Fonda

Would you guys finally go away and die?

GW in Ohio
02-06-2009, 03:50 PM
http://www.papamiket.com/?p=14306

Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists, and Obama supporters..

We have stuck together since the late 1950痴, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know, we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but, sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot, and will not ever agree on what is right, so let痴 just end it on friendly terms. We can smile, chalk it up to irreconcilable differences, and go our own way.

Here is a model separation agreement:

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friend ly agr eement. After that it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

We don稚 like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we値l take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O奪onnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them) .

We値l keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies, and illegal aliens. We値l keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO痴, and rednecks. We値l keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood.

You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we値l retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks, and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we値l help provide them security.

We値l keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, and Shirley McClaine. You can also have the U.N. But we will no longer be paying the bill.

We値l keep the SUVs, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare, if you can find any practicing doctors. We値l continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We値l keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I知 sure you値l be happy to substitute "Imagine", "I壇 Like to Teach the World to Sing", "Kum Ba Ya", or "We Are the World".

We値l practice trickle down economics, and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you we値l keep our history, our name, and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots, and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I値l bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely, John J. Wall
Law Student and an American

P.S. Also, please take Barbara Streisand & Jane Fonda

This is agreeable to liberals.

We'll give you Minnesota, Wisconsin, North and South Dakota, Idaho, Montana, and so you can grow corn and cattle to sustain you during your long conservative seasons, you can have Iowa and Kansas.

Oh hell, we'll even throw in Colorado and Utah. Rich Republicans like to ski, don't they?

Okay?

Start packing.

Abbey Marie
02-06-2009, 04:50 PM
Nope. The country gets split right down the middle, vertically. Each side gets coastline, farmland, hot, cold, etc. Good luck to you social program enriching, defense-cutting folks. Aggressive regimes will be sniffing around.

You probably will have better open spaces, though. At least until all the illegal immigrants you welcome in take them over.

red states rule
02-06-2009, 05:27 PM
Nope. The country gets split right down the middle, vertically. Each side gets coastline, farmland, hot, cold, etc. Good luck to you social program enriching, defense-cutting folks. Aggressive regimes will be sniffing around.

You probably will have better open spaces, though. At least until all the illegal immigrants you welcome in take them over.

If the country is divided, how will the left pay for their government? In the last 2 weeks we have seen where top Dems have a serious issue paying their fair share in taxes.

gabosaurus
02-06-2009, 06:34 PM
The sour grapes are threatening to overload this forum.

emmett
02-06-2009, 06:59 PM
you are an example of why this country works. we are neighbors, not enemies.

nice post

she is a treasure

red states rule
02-06-2009, 07:01 PM
she is a treasure

She is priceless