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Trigg
02-26-2009, 02:04 PM
From the WAll Street Journal no less.

Seems someone finally did the math and realized that taxing the "top 2%",

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123561551065378405.html?
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On Tuesday, he left the impression that we need merely end "tax breaks for the wealthiest 2% of Americans," and he promised that households earning less than $250,000 won't see their taxes increased by "one single dime."


This is going to be some trick. Even the most basic inspection of the IRS income tax statistics shows that raising taxes on the salaries, dividends and capital gains of those making more than $250,000 can't possibly raise enough revenue to fund Mr. Obama's new spending ambitions.

Consider the IRS data for 2006, the most recent year that such tax data are available and a good year for the economy and "the wealthiest 2%." Roughly 3.8 million filers had adjusted gross incomes above $200,000 in 2006. (That's about 7% of all returns; the data aren't broken down at the $250,000 point.) These people paid about $522 billion in income taxes, or roughly 62% of all federal individual income receipts. The richest 1% -- about 1.65 million filers making above $388,806 -- paid some $408 billion, or 39.9% of all income tax revenues, while earning about 22% of all reported U.S. income.

Hang on it gets better

A tax policy that confiscated 100% of the taxable income of everyone in America earning over $500,000 in 2006 would only have given Congress an extra $1.3 trillion in revenue. That's less than half the 2006 federal budget of $2.7 trillion and looks tiny compared to the more than $4 trillion Congress will spend in fiscal 2010.


As usual he will have to stick it to the middle class to pay for his agenda. Who's surprised by this..........no one, who was paying attention instead of listening to his loafty speeches.


The bottom line is that Mr. Obama is selling the country on a 2% illusion. Unwinding the U.S. commitment in Iraq and allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire can't possibly pay for his agenda. Taxes on the not-so-rich will need to rise as well. And the reality is that the only way to pay for Mr. Obama's ambitions is to reach ever deeper into the pockets of the American middle class

Mr. P
02-26-2009, 04:35 PM
raising taxes on the salaries, dividends and capital gains of those making more than $250,000 can't possibly raise enough revenue to fund Mr. Obama's new spending ambitions.

No one really had to do the math..anyone with half a brain would know you can't give a cut to 95%, tax the hell outta 2% and still fund what needs funded NOW, much less the new chit!

Trigg
02-26-2009, 05:45 PM
No one really had to do the math..anyone with half a brain would know you can't give a cut to 95%, tax the hell outta 2% and still fund what needs funded NOW, much less the new chit!

Well someone needs to show this to bambam because he's been saying this since he began his campaign. The only difference between now and then is NOW the MSM is beginning to question him instead of simply showing blind infatuation.

Joe Steel
02-26-2009, 05:52 PM
"Mr. Obama is of course counting on an economic recovery."

The 2% Illusion (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123561551065378405.html?)

Dynamic scoring.

You guys were big on "dynamic scoring" when Bush was doing it. I guess you're not so fond of it now.

Trigg
02-26-2009, 05:57 PM
Dynamic scoring.

You guys were big on "dynamic scoring" when Bush was doing it. I guess you're not so fond of it now.

Do you have anything to add that doesn't have Bush in the subject???? He isn't president anymore.

Just to catch you up, we're talking about bambam and his spending proposal.

Joe Steel
02-26-2009, 06:00 PM
Do you have anything to add that doesn't have Bush in the subject???? He isn't president anymore.

Just to catch you up, we're talking about bambam and his spending proposal.

That was over your head, wasn't it.

Do you know what dynamic scoring is?

Trigg
02-26-2009, 06:12 PM
That was over your head, wasn't it.

Do you know what dynamic scoring is?

What exactly does this have to do with bambam and his wealthy 2% being able to pay for everything????????

All it is the figuring out the impact of economic policies in the future. What is your point.



I'll be back to argue in a few hours, I have cub scouts. Something much more interresting than arguing with commies.

Joe Steel
02-26-2009, 06:24 PM
What exactly does this have to do with bambam and his wealthy 2% being able to pay for everything????????

All it is the figuring out the impact of economic policies in the future. What is your point.



I'll be back to argue in a few hours, I have cub scouts. Something much more interresting than arguing with commies.

The proposed programs don't have to be funded from taxes in one year. They can be funded over a number of years. That means, as a result of the stimulus, taxable income would be greater and that means more tax revenue. Contrary to what the stooges at the Wall Street Journal would like you to believe, the revenue in one year doesn't matter all that much.

manu1959
02-26-2009, 10:56 PM
The proposed programs don't have to be funded from taxes in one year. They can be funded over a number of years. That means, as a result of the stimulus, taxable income would be greater and that means more tax revenue. Contrary to what the stooges at the Wall Street Journal would like you to believe, the revenue in one year doesn't matter all that much.

in the past 120 days.....2 trillion dollars was spent......over the next couple of years there are two tax collections ......there isn't enough income to cover it....

Yurt
02-26-2009, 11:03 PM
in the past 120 days.....2 trillion dollars was spent......over the next couple of years there are two tax collections ......there isn't enough income to cover it....

but obama has HOPE :poke:

Mr. P
02-26-2009, 11:23 PM
The proposed programs don't have to be funded from taxes in one year. They can be funded over a number of years.

Gawd is it just me or does this BS sound just like our, oh so successful, social security program? GEEEZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!

manu1959
02-27-2009, 12:14 AM
Gawd is it just me or does this BS sound just like our, oh so successful, social security program? GEEEZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!

they just keep maxing out the credit cards and when they max them out the get new cards and they keep buying stuff....and going out to dinner....and using one card to pay for another......

now tell me ...... am i talking about our politicians or our "average" citizens that obama accused of missmanageing their affairs..........

Classact
02-27-2009, 06:52 AM
Bill O'Reilly said it best last night when he asked a progressive liberal what is different in Obama's approach than that of the progressive liberals running California that have bankrupted the state? What will happen to you if Obama bankrupts America like the progressives bankrupted California? Will you then vote for another political party?

red states rule
02-27-2009, 08:37 AM
Obama and the Dems need to learn a basic economic lesson


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