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Silver
03-04-2009, 07:00 PM
Ideas and talking points for Democrats....

The end objectives of our involvement in peace movement activity leading up to the midterm elections is:

1) To broaden the circle of people in the peace movement who are familiar with the ---------------- Party’s outlook on the elections and the need to defeat the ultra-right.

2) To deepen the understanding of the role of movements in political empowerment.

3) To strengthen basis for recruiting new Party members.

4) To energize the peace movement with tactics that move mass protest and majority opposition to the occupation into political action.

The Democratic Party and its candidates are only as strong politically and economically as the mass movements behind them. The greater participation of the Party and Left, the more effective the movements are, the more likely we can deliver a blow to the Right in November.

With our collective efforts in the targeted congressional races and our mobilizations in the streets and in the halls of Congress, the mid term elections can become a turning point in ending the occupation of Iraq.

Judith LeBlanc is a National Vice-Chair of the CPUSA and Chair of its Peace & Solidarity Commission.
http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/770/1/56/
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The ultra-right represents the most extreme, backwards, reactionary sections of transnational capital. They represent the war profiteers and the energy/oil conglomerates. If left in power, they aim to:

 Waste billions of dollars on unjust wars
 Deny workers the right to organize a union
 Destroy public education and the ability for us to go to college
 Undermine the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act
 Deny a woman’s right to choose
 Privatize Social Security and dismantle pensions
 Repeal environmental regulations and reject any measures to curb global warming.

Young people, particularly youth of color and working class youth, suffer the most under these regressive measures, often seeing the military as their only option after high school. The overwhelming majority of soldier deaths are young men and women under 30. Those that do return often suffer from post-traumatic stress and mental illness, making it difficult to return to school or get a decent job. In fact, the jobs available to youth overall do not provide much to shout about. The long-lasting ultra-right wing attack on trade unions, which the Reagan administration took the lead on in the 1980s, has left young workers to fend for themselves with less than five percent of young workers having a union job.

With no real interest in education, companies flock to schools to make money off of students. In reference to privatization, the National Education Association, a teachers’ union, reports on their web site that, if the ultra-right isn’t stopped, “one could imagine a system of public education where nearly all administrative, teaching, support, and even cultural functions would be controlled by private companies, reducing the role of elected school boards to glorified contract administrators.”

Young people are also the ones that would suffer from the environmental damages caused by deregulation of corporate emissions standards. We will have to scrap for reproductive rights in an anti-Roe v. Wade era. And in another 30 or 40 years, it will be today’s young people left with the empty bank account that used to be social security and pensions.

Of course, a Democratic victory in 2008 will not solve all the problems caused by so many years of ultra-right domination, or by capitalism in general.
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The Democratic Party is also a coalition: Its leadership does consist of the less reactionary section of monopoly capital, but its mass base is currently made up of the labor unions, youth organizations, a large segment of the anti-war movement, women’s organizations, civil rights organizations, civil libertarians and so on. Looking at the parties as coalitions is more illuminating than simply looking at the leadership; it becomes much easier to see which camp we want to be in, which coalition we want to see win at this stage.
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The leading Democratic candidates represents the strongest opposition to the ultra-right we’ve ever seen in a presidential election. The mere fact that candidates must posture over who is more pro-jobs, pro-peace, pro-gay or pro-healthcare is a giant leap forward. And who cannot find progress in the fact that much of the country seems ready to elect either a Black man or a woman as president?

And there is something to be said for the movement of young people that surrounds Barack Obama. An overwhelming majority of the 2008 primary youth vote went to Sen. Obama, who won this section of the electorate in all Super Tuesday states but Arkansas, California and Massachusetts. Even in those states, Obama kept the margin of victory incredibly low. Obama went on to sweep the Potomac Primaries (D.C., Maryland and Virginia). Of the two candidates, many feel he has provided an inspirational vision for the future of our country. And for youth, who so often feel left out of the discussion, this has been increasingly attractive.
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This fight is winnable, and there is an actual strategy to win, a strategy that consists of more than playing at revolution and calling for chaos in the streets. Right now the elections are the most critical form of struggle; this is where we have the best shot of finally breaking the back of the ultra right. Afterwards, we will continue to build a united movement that can work to establish a real electoral alternative, and eventually to challenge the system overall.

The only next steps to really ending the war, passing the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA), raising the Pell Grant in a significant way, among other things, is to get around the Bush veto. This means that McCain must be denied the White House in November

http://tinyurl.com/bpeat9
http://www.cpusa.org/article/view/940/
http://www.cpusa.org/article/view/988/
http://www.cpusa.org/article/view/843/

Silver
03-04-2009, 08:39 PM
WTF Democrats ?

No comments ??

The Communists love ya to pieces ???

The USCPA and the Democrats .... peas in a pod...:laugh2:

moderate democrat
03-04-2009, 08:42 PM
WTF Democrats ?

No comments ??

The Communists love ya to pieces ???

The USCPA and the Democrats .... peas in a pod...:laugh2:

write your own stuff and then you'll get people to write their own stuff in reply thereto. If I want to read eight month old communist party of America press releases, I certainly can find better places than here.

Kathianne
03-04-2009, 08:59 PM
write your own stuff and then you'll get people to write their own stuff in reply thereto. If I want to read eight month old communist party of America press releases, I certainly can find better places than here.

Do so.

moderate democrat
03-04-2009, 09:01 PM
Do so.


I don't care to read old press releases or I would. Since I don't, I think I'll stay 'round these parts... but thanks anyway, ma'am.:salute:

Kathianne
03-04-2009, 09:08 PM
I don't care to read old press releases or I would. Since I don't, I think I'll stay 'round these parts... but thanks anyway, ma'am.:salute:

Not surprised. All talk...

Mr. P
03-04-2009, 09:09 PM
i don't care to read old press releases or i would. since i don't, i think i'll stay 'round these parts... But thanks anyway, ma'am.:salute:

BUT you did, admit it!

Silver
03-04-2009, 09:12 PM
Not surprised. All talk...

I can't blame maineman for not wanting to comment on being in bed with the Communists.....reading the material leaves no doubt about their close beliefs and goals for this country....its undeniable....

moderate democrat
03-04-2009, 09:47 PM
Not surprised. All talk...

and what sort of stuff, other than electronic "talk" am I supposed to deliver here on an internet message board? Do you expect me to cyber juggle some cyber bowling pins? Do you expect me to sing a song? what??

As I said, if Hiyo Silver wants to "WRITE" something of his own that contains original intellectual content, I will gladly respond in kind.

The communist party of america is a liberal party... if it truly has any thoughts of actually spawning a proletarian revolution in America that utilized the dialectic principles of communism to overturn our capitalist economic system, it is even more deluded than I thought. As it stands now, it is "communist" in name only and, as we know, that name gets all patriotic right wingers all lathered up.

Silver
03-04-2009, 10:17 PM
and what sort of stuff, other than electronic "talk" am I supposed to deliver here on an internet message board? Do you expect me to cyber juggle some cyber bowling pins? Do you expect me to sing a song? what??

As I said, if Hiyo Silver wants to "WRITE" something of his own that contains original intellectual content, I will gladly respond in kind.

The communist party of america is a liberal party... if it truly has any thoughts of actually spawning a proletarian revolution in America that utilized the dialectic principles of communism to overturn our capitalist economic system, it is even more deluded than I thought. As it stands now, it is "communist" in name only and, as we know, that name gets all patriotic right wingers all lathered up.

As I said, if Hiyo Silver wants to "WRITE" something of his own that contains original intellectual content, I will gladly respond in kind.

:beer: That was slick....slick and clever....:clap:

Communist Party in name only...lol....as the Democrats are democratic in name only....in fact they are socialists with fascist leanings, ignoring our Constitutional rights as understood for well over 200 years.....bent on re-writing and/or re-interrupting rights we enjoyed since Jefferson penned the document....in some cases even inventing rights from whole cloth....

Your party certainly wants 'change'.....change our nation from what the founding fathers envisioned to what Marx and Engel had in mind...

Norman Thomas said this in a 1944 speech:

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

Some even believe he went on to say:

"I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform."

In any case...its certainly the truth.....

Yurt
03-04-2009, 10:21 PM
Not surprised. All talk...

:clap:

moderate democrat
03-05-2009, 07:17 AM
In any case...its certainly the truth.....

no. absolutely not. In any case, it is nothing more than your opinion. period.

Joe Steel
03-05-2009, 07:48 AM
Ideas and talking points for Democrats....

The end objectives of our involvement in peace movement activity leading up to the midterm elections is:

1) To broaden the circle of people in the peace movement who are familiar with the ---------------- Party’s outlook on the elections and the need to defeat the ultra-right.

2) To deepen the understanding of the role of movements in political empowerment.

3) To strengthen basis for recruiting new Party members.

4) To energize the peace movement with tactics that move mass protest and majority opposition to the occupation into political action.

The Democratic Party and its candidates are only as strong politically and economically as the mass movements behind them. The greater participation of the Party and Left, the more effective the movements are, the more likely we can deliver a blow to the Right in November.

With our collective efforts in the targeted congressional races and our mobilizations in the streets and in the halls of Congress, the mid term elections can become a turning point in ending the occupation of Iraq.

Judith LeBlanc is a National Vice-Chair of the CPUSA and Chair of its Peace & Solidarity Commission.

http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/770/1/56/

While I am sympathetic with their goals, I am not now nor have I ever been a member of the Communist Party.

Silver
03-05-2009, 01:25 PM
While I am sympathetic with their goals, I am not now nor have I ever been a member of the Communist Party.

Well, thank you Joe for being candid and honest....thats a hell of a lot more
than we can credit maineman with.....honesty and ethics are values he defines as he sees fit...to justify his hypocrisy....:salute:

Silver
03-05-2009, 06:53 PM
Well, I've waited for maineman to step up and show the same courage Joe has shown...but alas, its not to be.....
He will deny hes a USCPA non-card carrying sympathizer.............
but we all know better...:salute:

Kathianne
03-05-2009, 07:00 PM
Well, I've waited for maineman to step up and show the same courage Joe has shown...but alas, its not to be.....
He will deny hes a USCPA non-card carrying sympathizer.............
but we all know better...:salute:

Maineman has gone to the big socialist UCC family in the sky. aka: he no longer posts here.

Silver
03-05-2009, 07:15 PM
Maineman has gone to the big socialist UCC family in the sky. aka: he no longer posts here.

Well, Kathieanne...he's moderate democrat now....

but he won't be back on this thread, hes licking his wounds...

Kathianne
03-05-2009, 07:32 PM
Well, Kathieanne...he's moderate democrat now....

but he won't be back on this thread, hes licking his wounds...

MM is gone. MD is here. Are they the same? Really it's not an issue. Let it go, please.

Silver
03-05-2009, 07:46 PM
MM is gone. MD is here. Are they the same? Really it's not an issue. Let it go, please.

Of course its not an issue....most of us already know who are dealing with, no matter what name they use....I've been here under a different name too and so have some others.....its not an issue at all....

Kathianne
03-05-2009, 07:58 PM
:beer: Then let's drop it as a topic of discussion.
Of course its not an issue....most of us already know who are dealing with, no matter what name they use....I've been here under a different name too and so have some others.....its not an issue at all....

moderate democrat
03-05-2009, 08:33 PM
moderate democrat is a moderate democrat and has never sympathized with the communist party of America, even though they have, upon occasion, sympathized with the democratic party. As I said... they really are "communist" in name only...

In FACT, they are a liberal, strongly pro-labor party that has little connection to "communism".

I strongly doubt if any of their membership really believes in the thesis-antithesis-synthesis dialectic model of overthrowing capitalism in America. I doubt that any of them really believes in the possibility of a dictatorship of the proletariat as a prelude to a pure communistic society here...

I know that I certainly don't believe in any of that stuff.

Silver
03-05-2009, 10:00 PM
moderate democrat is a moderate democrat and has never sympathized with the communist party of America, even though they have, upon occasion, sympathized with the democratic party. As I said... they really are "communist" in name only...

In FACT, they are a liberal, strongly pro-labor party that has little connection to "communism".

I strongly doubt if any of their membership really believes in the thesis-antithesis-synthesis dialectic model of overthrowing capitalism in America. I doubt that any of them really believes in the possibility of a dictatorship of the proletariat as a prelude to a pure communistic society here...

I know that I certainly don't believe in any of that stuff.

"moderate democrat is a moderate democrat and has never sympathized with the communist party of America, even though they have, upon occasion, sympathized with the democratic party. "

So they "sympathize with the Democratic Party" on occasion ???
Thats quite interesting, isn't it....

\so does that put one of their ideologies in an acceptable light....? and
Which one, ... the Communists or the Democrats ?


Reminds me of maybe.....the Palestinians sympathizing with the Nazis....on occasion...

You are what your ideology says you are....labels mean little

a rose by any other name... ? peas in a pod....on occasion....

on occasion you must sympathize... with the Communists

Kathianne
03-05-2009, 10:05 PM
moderate democrat is a moderate democrat and has never sympathized with the communist party of America, even though they have, upon occasion, sympathized with the democratic party. As I said... they really are "communist" in name only...

In FACT, they are a liberal, strongly pro-labor party that has little connection to "communism".

I strongly doubt if any of their membership really believes in the thesis-antithesis-synthesis dialectic model of overthrowing capitalism in America. I doubt that any of them really believes in the possibility of a dictatorship of the proletariat as a prelude to a pure communistic society here...

I know that I certainly don't believe in any of that stuff.

Hmm, 3rd person is creepy.

Silver
03-05-2009, 10:16 PM
And as for your assertion that "they really are "communist" in name only... "

I certainly agree...times have changed and ideologies have evolved....

The should call themselves what they really are.....Democrats...:salute:

Kathianne
03-05-2009, 10:23 PM
And as for your assertion that "they really are "communist" in name only... "

I certainly agree...times have changed and ideologies have evolved....

The should call themselves what they really are.....Democrats...:salute:

I assume that was meant to MD? In any case, not a very reliable source for anything. Not even communism, socialism, or Obama. Other than he loves them, protestations aside.

red states rule
03-06-2009, 07:40 AM
write your own stuff and then you'll get people to write their own stuff in reply thereto. If I want to read eight month old communist party of America press releases, I certainly can find better places than here.

May I suggest you go in the same direction as the Dow, Obama's approval numbers, and the number of people with jobs - south

Mexico is wonderful this time of year

red states rule
03-06-2009, 07:42 AM
Well, Kathieanne...he's moderate democrat now....

but he won't be back on this thread, hes licking his wounds...

I hope you kicked him he has some Moist Towelettes and some Tic Tacs