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grunt
04-02-2007, 10:11 AM
SIOUX CITY, Iowa (AP) — If President Bush vetoes an Iraq war spending bill as promised, Congress quickly will provide the money without the withdrawal timeline the White House objects to because no lawmaker "wants to play chicken with our troops," Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday.
"My expectation is that we will continue to try to ratchet up the pressure on the president to change course," the Democratic presidential candidate said in an interview with The Associated Press. "I don't think that we will see a majority of the Senate vote to cut off funding at this stage."

Obama has made his opposition to the war a centerpiece of his campaign and has used it to differentiate himself from rival Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq.

In the interview, Obama pointed to a speech he gave five months before the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003. In that address, Obama warned of grave consequences if the United States went into Iraq.

Obama noted on Sunday that the speech came about the same time the Senate was considering the use of force authorization.

"I think that it's important for voters to get a sense of how the next president will make decisions in a foreign policy arena," said Obama, who is in his first term as a senator.

"There are a number of senators who have acknowledged they got bad information or might have made a different decision. What I've tried to suggest is the speech I gave five months before we went to war shows how I think about the problem," he said.

Clinton has refused to repudiate her vote but has criticized the conduct of the war, saying "if we knew then what we know now" she never would have voted as she did.

Given that Bush is determined to veto a timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq, Congress has little realistic choice but to approve money for the war, Obama said.

"I think that nobody wants to play chicken with our troops on the ground," said Obama. "I do think a majority of the Senate has now expressed the belief that we need to change course in Iraq.

"Obviously we're constrained by the fact that a commander in chief who also has veto power has the option of ignoring that position," Obama said.

The Senate last week approved a bill providing $123 billion to pay for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It would order Bush to begin withdrawing troops within 120 days of passage while setting a non-binding goal of ending combat operations by March 31, 2008.

The House's version, passed March 23, would require that combat troops come home from Iraq before September 2008 — or earlier if the Baghdad government did not meet certain requirements.

The Senate is on vacation now for a week and the House for two weeks, so it will take time for a compromise to pass both chambers and get to the White House. If Bush vetoes the measure, the new bill that Obama describes would have to be written and put to votes.

The senator said it is up to war opponents to be vocal about their position.

"If the president vetoes this, the American people have to continue to put pressure on their representatives so that at some point we may be able to get a veto-proof majority for moving this war in a different direction," the senator said.

On other topics, Obama:

• Said the fight over eight fired U.S. attorneys does not mean the system of appointing federal prosecutors needs to be changed. "Initially they are political appointees, but once they are in place, once they are appointed, there's been a hands-off approach by the White House." He said the showdown today came about because the White House would not allow that independence.

• Rejected suggestions he is offering more style than substance and lacks the experience to be a serious candidate for president. "By January if people were still making these criticisms, I think we'd be concerned. It's eight weeks after I announced and I feel very confident."

• Was vague about whether universal health coverage would require higher taxes. "I'm committed to making sure we find those resources," Obama said. "It is possible that we are going to need additional resources at least on the front end. I think you can save that money on the back end." He is meeting with experts this week as he develops a health care proposal.

Without giving specifics, Obama said he would offer a system that provides universal care and cuts costs for employers by allowing small businesses to pool together.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

gabosaurus
04-02-2007, 10:44 AM
Small things amuse small minds.

avatar4321
04-02-2007, 10:49 AM
Small things amuse small minds.

Actually, i think small things amuse and interest great minds. because the devil is in the details. It's often through small means that great things get accomplished.

grunt
04-02-2007, 11:19 AM
Small things amuse small minds.


Looks like the Dems are caving in,again!!

Pussies! :fu:

theHawk
04-02-2007, 11:41 AM
Looks like the Dems are caving in,again!!

Pussies! :fu:

Of course they will cave in, they don't want the wraith of conservative America next election.

5stringJeff
04-02-2007, 12:14 PM
So, in other words, Bush's veto threat/actual veto will accomplish the purpose he wants: getting funding without a timetable to surrender. Looks like Bush is gonna win this round! :thumb:

avatar4321
04-02-2007, 12:19 PM
So, in other words, Bush's veto threat/actual veto will accomplish the purpose he wants: getting funding without a timetable to surrender. Looks like Bush is gonna win this round! :thumb:

Come on, its a "moral" victory for the Democrats.... not sure why but its got to be! lol

GW in Ohio
04-02-2007, 01:46 PM
So, in other words, Bush's veto threat/actual veto will accomplish the purpose he wants: getting funding without a timetable to surrender. Looks like Bush is gonna win this round! :thumb:

Yeah, Bush wins and everybody else loses.

How many more months do we have to endure this moron and his gang of Halliburton thieves and plunderers?

grunt
04-02-2007, 01:50 PM
Yeah, Bush wins and everybody else loses.

How many more months do we have to endure this moron and his gang of Halliburton thieves and plunderers?


22 more. lol..... :fu:

avatar4321
04-02-2007, 02:23 PM
Yeah, Bush wins and everybody else loses.

How many more months do we have to endure this moron and his gang of Halliburton thieves and plunderers?

I don't lose by The President getting the funding he needs for the troops without the park and the slow bleed restrictions that would make our troops die so Democrats can play politics. The troops dont lose either.

stephanie
04-02-2007, 06:26 PM
Obama caves to Bush
by kos :laugh2:
Sun Apr 01, 2007 at 10:57:18 AM PDT
I wish this was an April Fools Day joke:

If President Bush vetoes an Iraq war spending bill as promised, Congress quickly will provide the money without the withdrawal timeline the White House objects to because no lawmaker "wants to play chicken with our troops," Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday.
What a ridiculous thing to say. Not only is it bad policy, not only is it bad politics, it's also a terrible negotiating approach.

Instead of threatening Bush with even more restrictions and daring him to veto funding for the troops out of pique, Barack just surrendered to him.

Let me repeat that -- Obama just surrendered to Bush.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/1/135422/4038

Gaffer
04-03-2007, 02:33 PM
Obama caves to Bush
by kos :laugh2:
Sun Apr 01, 2007 at 10:57:18 AM PDT
I wish this was an April Fools Day joke:

If President Bush vetoes an Iraq war spending bill as promised, Congress quickly will provide the money without the withdrawal timeline the White House objects to because no lawmaker "wants to play chicken with our troops," Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday.
What a ridiculous thing to say. Not only is it bad policy, not only is it bad politics, it's also a terrible negotiating approach.

Instead of threatening Bush with even more restrictions and daring him to veto funding for the troops out of pique, Barack just surrendered to him.

Let me repeat that -- Obama just surrendered to Bush.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/1/135422/4038

Surrender is what dems do best. Just like their mentors the french.