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crin63
03-22-2009, 06:54 PM
I received this as an email from a local firearm retailer.



Long Beach Ammunition Sales Registration Proposal Update


On Tuesday, March 24, the Long Beach City Council is set to vote on whether to proceed with drafting an ordinance which would force ammunition sellers in Long Beach to record the identity of all ammunition purchasers, as well as other details of the sales transaction. These records will then be collected and inspected by the Long Beach Police Department with the goal of identifying purchasers who are legally prohibited from possessing ammunition. The biggest ammunition seller in Long beach is probably a Big 5 Sporting Goods store located there.

The vote is the culmination of several hearings and motions on the matter held over a span of nearly two years. Representing the NRA and CRPA, the law office of Trutanich-Michel, LLP (TMLLP) has been working on defeating the proposed ordinance since it was first proposed in 2007 by State Assembly candidate Bonnie Lowenthal to generate publicity for her campaign for state office.

The California Association of Firearm Retailers has also weighed in against the proposal.

TMLLP lawyers have maintained constant correspondence with the City of Long Beach, both through letters and requests made pursuant to the Public Records Act (linked at CalGunLaws.com). Lawyers from TMLLP also attended all Public Safety Committee hearings and Public Safety Advisory Commission meetings on the matter and voiced opposition.

This ordinance is bad policy. It does not make economic sense for the City of Long Beach since it will burden already struggling retailers and lessen tax revenue while increasing city expenses for enforcement. Collecting and managing the information is cumbersome and inefficient, and does not uncover violent criminals, but rather individuals who have unknowingly lost their right to own a gun because of botched paperwork. The results of previous ammo registration experiments have been so dismal that other cites have abandoned these schemes rather than pay to maintain them.

In reality, the proposed ordinance is another covert mechanism to intentionally hinder law-abiding citizens from exercising their Second Amendment rights. The gun ban lobby has been striving to enact ammunition regulation laws of late as a way to try to get around preemption restrictions and make firearms useless.

The ordinance is also illegal. These ammunition registration ordinances are preempted by state law in light of the court’s decision in Fiscal v. City and County of San Francisco. They may very well also constitute an unconstitutional infringement on the Second Amendment. And, in response to questioning by one of TMLLP’s lawyers who was invited as a presenter to a Public Safety Committee hearing, an LAPD officer acknowledged that the information gathered in the few other cities with similar ordinances has been used for illegal purposes by police in those jurisdictions.

For a more detailed analysis of the opposition to the ordinance see the letters from Trutanich-Michel,LLP to the City linked at CalGunLaws.com.

Even if you don't live in Long Beach, your help is needed to defeat this proposal. Please call and email the Long Beach City Council and/or attend the City Council meeting on March 24, 2009 and voice your opposition! And tell your neighbors to do the same.

The attacks on the 2nd Amendment just keep coming.

Jagger
03-22-2009, 07:12 PM
I received this as an email from a local firearm retailer.
The attacks on the 2nd Amendment just keep coming.
Where does the Second Amendment say ammunition can't be regulated?

5stringJeff
03-23-2009, 08:00 PM
Where does the Second Amendment say ammunition can't be regulated?

It's a backdoor infringement on your right to keep and bear arms. Kind of like saying you can have free speech, as long as you tell the government everything you say, and stick to their prepared opinions on everything.

stephanie
03-23-2009, 08:13 PM
Kalifornia has become a Communist state with Arnold Kennedy at the helm..

sad.

hjmick
03-23-2009, 08:28 PM
And so it begins. Texas here I come.

actsnoblemartin
03-23-2009, 09:25 PM
And so it begins. Texas here I come.

california home of communism, shallowness, and stupidity

theHawk
03-24-2009, 12:07 AM
Where does the Second Amendment say ammunition can't be regulated?

The Federal government doesn't have the legal authority to restrict anything unless specifically stated in the Constitution.

Binky
03-24-2009, 11:43 AM
It's a backdoor infringement on your right to keep and bear arms. Kind of like saying you can have free speech, as long as you tell the government everything you say, and stick to their prepared opinions on everything.


Sorta like a teleprompter speech. Scripted.

Binky
03-24-2009, 11:44 AM
Kalifornia has become a Communist state with Arnold Kennedy at the helm..

sad.


It's definitely a liberal state filled to the brim with all sorts of whack-a-toos.

Jagger
03-24-2009, 04:00 PM
There's no right to keep and bear bullets in the Constitution.