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actsnoblemartin
06-14-2009, 11:50 PM
what are you for and against

what im for

2nd amendment
gay rights
the wars in iraq and aghanistan
death penalty
torture
marijuana legalization
prostitution legalization

what im against

government run healthcare
corporate welfare
higher taxes
affirmative action
censorship
the global warming myth
cloning

Psychoblues
06-15-2009, 12:25 AM
You want to give us a little clarification on those for and against jamms, marteen?!?!?!??!?!?!?!???!?!?!?!?



what are you for and against

what im for

2nd amendment
gay rights
the wars in iraq and aghanistan
death penalty
torture
marijuana legalization
prostitution legalization

what im against

government run healthcare
corporate welfare
higher taxes
affirmative action
censorship
the global warming myth
cloning

Surely you are smarter than you represent?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!



:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

actsnoblemartin
06-15-2009, 12:27 AM
which one or ones do you want clarification on ?


You want to give us a little clarification on those for and against jamms, marteen?!?!?!??!?!?!?!???!?!?!?!?




Surely you are smarter than you represent?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!



:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

Psychoblues
06-15-2009, 12:36 AM
Uhhhhhhhhhhhh,,,,,,,,,,



which one or ones do you want clarification on ?

It looks like about all of them,,,,,,,and while you're at it how can you stand the hypocisies within?!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!??!

I've got faith in you, marteen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

actsnoblemartin
06-15-2009, 12:40 AM
im not sure what about it is hypocritical, i suppose i didnt put a lot of thought into it.

the torture one, im more on the fence about then for sure about.



Uhhhhhhhhhhhh,,,,,,,,,,




It looks like about all of them,,,,,,,and while you're at it how can you stand the hypocisies within?!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!??!

I've got faith in you, marteen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

actsnoblemartin
06-15-2009, 12:45 AM
ok let me clarify

2nd amendment = believe u.s. citizens have a right to keep and bear aems

gay rights: i believe in gay rights, including marriage, repeal of d.o.ma., and other things,

war in iraq, time to bring troops home, believe in afghanistan

death penalty: conceded that one to a friend, more on the fence on that one

torture: closer to on the fence

marijuana and prostitution should be legal because, the pimps would get in trouble not hookers if it were legal, and marijuana laws i think are stupid

ill get to the against in a moment

government run healthcare: believe the government will f this up
corporate welfare: believe this is wrong, no company should get it
higher taxes: believe we are taxed enough
affirmative action: reverse racism
censorship: against censorship in media, and other places
the global warming myth: believe man is not solely responsible for this
cloning: dont think we should make sheep




what are you for and against

what im for

2nd amendment
gay rights
the wars in iraq and aghanistan
death penalty
torture
marijuana legalization
prostitution legalization

what im against

government run healthcare
corporate welfare
higher taxes
affirmative action
censorship
the global warming myth
cloning

Psychoblues
06-15-2009, 12:48 AM
Comprehensive is intimidating to many reichwingers, marteen. You remember the lil' one immigration debates don't you?!?!?!??!?!?!?



im not sure what about it is hypocritical, i suppose i didnt put a lot of thought into it.

the torture one, im more on the fence about then for sure about.

Torture is NOT an American value now or ever. We are better than that.

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

actsnoblemartin
06-15-2009, 12:56 AM
but what about the, it saves lives argument?

what if we dont torture and americans die

how do you respond to that?


Comprehensive is intimidating to many reichwingers, marteen. You remember the lil' one immigration debates don't you?!?!?!??!?!?!?




Torture is NOT an American value now or ever. We are better than that.

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

Psychoblues
06-15-2009, 01:00 AM
It doesn't save lives, marteen.



but what about the, it saves lives argument?

what if we dont torture and americans die

how do you respond to that?

Are you just reading reichwing talking points?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!??!?!?

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

actsnoblemartin
06-15-2009, 01:02 AM
no im asking you an honest question

you know me, devils advocate :dance:


It doesn't save lives, marteen.




Are you just reading reichwing talking points?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!??!?!?

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

Psychoblues
06-15-2009, 01:05 AM
And I gave you an honest answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!



no im asking you an honest question

you know me, devils advocate :dance:

You know me, Honest Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

actsnoblemartin
06-15-2009, 02:23 AM
thats all i can ask :))


And I gave you an honest answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!




You know me, Honest Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

Psychoblues
06-15-2009, 03:02 AM
And you consider the conversation over?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?



thats all i can ask :))

You are deeper than that, marteen!!!!!!!!!!!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

actsnoblemartin
06-15-2009, 03:05 AM
I enjoy talking with you mate
lets continue

:dance: :dance: :dance:


And you consider the conversation over?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?




You are deeper than that, marteen!!!!!!!!!!!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

Psychoblues
06-15-2009, 03:47 AM
You seem to enjoy torture, and abortion also seems to get your attention. What's your problem?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?



I enjoy talking with you mate
lets continue

:dance: :dance: :dance:

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

actsnoblemartin
06-15-2009, 03:51 AM
im on the fence really about that, and whats wrong with being pro choice?


You seem to enjoy torture, and abortion also seems to get your attention. What's your problem?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?




:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

Psychoblues
06-15-2009, 04:30 AM
"Choice" is a conservative mantra!!!!!!!!!!!!!



im on the fence really about that, and whats wrong with being pro choice?

NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

actsnoblemartin
06-15-2009, 04:33 AM
im confused


"Choice" is a conservative mantra!!!!!!!!!!!!!




NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

Psychoblues
06-15-2009, 05:19 AM
Tell me what "choices" the repuplicons have offered you lately?!?!?!?!??



im confused

:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

actsnoblemartin
06-15-2009, 05:39 AM
not many too be honest.


Tell me what "choices" the repuplicons have offered you lately?!?!?!?!??




:beer::cheers2::beer:

Psychoblues

gabosaurus
06-15-2009, 10:35 AM
For: A lot of things.
Against: Silly threads like this. :p

Binky
06-17-2009, 11:53 AM
what are you for and against

what im for

2nd amendment
gay rights
the wars in iraq and aghanistan
death penalty
torture
marijuana legalization
prostitution legalization

what im against

government run healthcare
corporate welfare
higher taxes
affirmative action
censorship
the global warming myth
cloning


Does it really matter what we each believe in? No matter what it is, there is always going to be someone that is going to stomp on ones individual beliefs, just because he or she doesn't happen to believe the same. So again I ask, does it really matter? why set oneself up for a slam job?

What I believe in are my own personal beliefs. I choose to keep them to myself.