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red states rule
10-26-2009, 09:19 AM
As if the global warming nuts could do more to show what a bunch of idiots they really are






Save the planet: eat a dog?

By TANYA KATTERNS - The Dominion Post

The eco-pawprint of a pet dog is twice that of a 4.6-litre Land Cruiser driven 10,000 kilometres a year, researchers have found.

Victoria University professors Brenda and Robert Vale, architects who specialise in sustainable living, say pet owners should swap cats and dogs for creatures they can eat, such as chickens or rabbits, in their provocative new book Time to Eat the Dog: The real guide to sustainable living.

The couple have assessed the carbon emissions created bypopular pets, taking into account the ingredients of pet food and the land needed to create them.

"If you have a German shepherd or similar-sized dog, for example, its impact every year is exactly the same as driving a large car around," Brenda Vale said.

"A lot of people worry about having SUVs but they don't worry about having Alsatians and what we are saying is, well, maybe you should be because the environmental impact ... is comparable."

In a study published in New Scientist, they calculated a medium dog eats 164 kilograms of meat and 95kg of cereals every year. It takes 43.3 square metres of land to produce 1kg of chicken a year. This means it takes 0.84 hectares to feed Fido.

They compared this with the footprint of a Toyota Land Cruiser, driven 10,000km a year, which uses 55.1 gigajoules (the energy used to build and fuel it). One hectare of land can produce 135 gigajoules a year, which means the vehicle's eco-footprint is 0.41ha – less than half of the dog's.

They found cats have an eco-footprint of 0.15ha – slightly less than a Volkswagen Golf. Hamsters have a footprint of 0.014ha – keeping two of them is equivalent to owning a plasma TV.

Professor Vale says the title of the book is meant to shock, but the couple, who do not have a cat or dog, believe the reintroduction of non-carnivorous pets into urban areas would help slow down global warming.

"The title of the book is a little bit of a shock tactic, I think, but though we are not advocating eating anyone's pet cat or dog there is certainly some truth in the fact that if we have edible pets like chickens for their eggs and meat, and rabbits and pigs, we will be compensating for the impact of other things on our environment."

Professor Vale took her message to Wellington City Council last year, but councillors said banning traditional pets or letting people keep food animals in their homes were not acceptable options.

Kelly Jeffery, a Paraparaumu german shepherd breederwho once owned a large SUV, said eliminating traditional pets was "over the top".

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/national/2987821/Save-the-planet-eat-a-dog#comments

Gaffer
10-26-2009, 01:11 PM
They just need to kill all living things on the planet and it would be perfect. Look at Mars for example.

gabosaurus
10-26-2009, 01:48 PM
Another brilliant cut and paste debacle from the man with no brain or common sense.

Global warming is the temperature of the earth. It has very little to do with snow, freezing temperatures or other normal seasonal atmospheric events.
Of course, ConRep idiots won't acknowledge this because it cuts into their bullshit spewing.

If idiots like RSR had basic reading and comprehension skills, perhaps they would grasp this.

MtnBiker
10-26-2009, 01:57 PM
Global warming is the temperature of the earth.

Now that's a brilliant statement!

So, without global warming the earth would have no temperature? What temperature should the earth be? How long should the earth maintian a constant temperature?

SupportUSA
10-26-2009, 04:44 PM
this is a little much. Cows are also responsible in the same way.

chesswarsnow
10-26-2009, 07:26 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. Yup, I farted.:laugh2:
2. I just started the CWN heat wave, coming to a location near you!:laugh2:


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

chloe
10-26-2009, 07:28 PM
As if the global warming nuts could do more to show what a bunch of idiots they really are

as long as it's not my cats their accusing...he he...cest la vie

avatar4321
10-26-2009, 08:44 PM
Exhaling contributes to global warming. All those carbon emissions from your lungs. The only logical solution to the global warming problem is to kill all humans.

This is the logical conclusion to the global warming bs. This is why those nutjobs are so dangerous.

red states rule
10-26-2009, 10:16 PM
Another brilliant cut and paste debacle from the man with no brain or common sense.

Global warming is the temperature of the earth. It has very little to do with snow, freezing temperatures or other normal seasonal atmospheric events.
Of course, ConRep idiots won't acknowledge this because it cuts into their bullshit spewing.

If idiots like RSR had basic reading and comprehension skills, perhaps they would grasp this.

Gabby why are you upset I posted a study from Victoria University professors Brenda and Robert Vale

It is your fellow libs who are saying people need to get rid of their dogs

Why do you always get in a tizzy when I post what your side is telling the rest of us to do, and how to live our lives?

red states rule
10-26-2009, 10:20 PM
as long as it's not my cats their accusing...he he...cest la vie

Here is what the cats think of the study


http://www.caturday.name/images/cats/funny-pictures-cat-giving-finger.jpg

red states rule
10-27-2009, 06:32 AM
Why the above pic changed into a red "X" is strange

http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/fuck_you.jpeg

red states rule
10-27-2009, 06:34 AM
and for people like Gabby who is embarrassed to have her fellow liberals statements made public for all to see - here is this





Climate chief Lord Stern: give up meat to save the planet

People will need to turn vegetarian if the world is to conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global warming.

In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said: “Meat is a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases. It puts enormous pressure on the world’s resources. A vegetarian diet is better.”

Direct emissions of methane from cows and pigs is a significant source of greenhouse gases. Methane is 23 times more powerful than carbon dioxide as a global warming gas.

Lord Stern, the author of the influential 2006 Stern Review on the cost of tackling global warming, said that a successful deal at the Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen in December would lead to soaring costs for meat and other foods that generate large quantities of greenhouse gases.

He predicted that people’s attitudes would evolve until meat eating became unacceptable. “I think it’s important that people think about what they are doing and that includes what they are eating,” he said. “I am 61 now and attitudes towards drinking and driving have changed radically since I was a student. People change their notion of what is responsible. They will increasingly ask about the carbon content of their food.”

Lord Stern, a former chief economist of the World Bank and now I. G. Patel Professor of Economics at the London School of Economics, warned that British taxpayers would need to contribute about £3 billion a year by 2015 to help poor countries to cope with the inevitable impact of climate change.

He also issued a clear message to President Obama that he must attend the meeting in Copenhagen in person in order for an effective deal to be reached. US leadership, he said, was “desperately needed” to secure a deal.

He said that he was deeply concerned that popular opinion had so far failed to grasp the scale of the changes needed to address climate change, or of the importance of the UN meeting in Copenhagen from December 7 to December 18. “I am not sure that people fully understand what we are talking about or the kind of changes that will be necessary,” he added.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece

gabosaurus
10-27-2009, 10:54 AM
There are a great many people who have no clue what Global Warming actually is. They develop a warped opinion and use it to further their own agenda.
Global Warming refers to earth gasses cutting away at the ozone layer. The resulting rays cause the surface of the earth and the oceans to heat up.
It has nothing to do with normal seasonal events such as snowstorms and cold fronts.
Perhaps if some people here were actually educated and could think for themselves, they would know that. Instead, they sit around all day reading garbage and pasting it into forums 80-100 times a day.

Trigg
10-27-2009, 11:30 AM
There are a great many people who have no clue what Global Warming actually is. They develop a warped opinion and use it to further their own agenda.
Global Warming refers to earth gasses cutting away at the ozone layer. The resulting rays cause the surface of the earth and the oceans to heat up.
It has nothing to do with normal seasonal events such as snowstorms and cold fronts.
Perhaps if some people here were actually educated and could think for themselves, they would know that. Instead, they sit around all day reading garbage and pasting it into forums 80-100 times a day.

This doesn't negate that fact that the person is a dumb ass for suggesting that people shouldn't have animals and we should all become vegetarians.

Your right though many people have no clue about Global Warming and it could have something to do with the fact that even scientist that study it don't agree.

AFbombloader
10-27-2009, 11:35 AM
There are a great many people who have no clue what Global Warming actually is. They develop a warped opinion and use it to further their own agenda.
Global Warming refers to earth gasses cutting away at the ozone layer. The resulting rays cause the surface of the earth and the oceans to heat up.
It has nothing to do with normal seasonal events such as snowstorms and cold fronts.
Perhaps if some people here were actually educated and could think for themselves, they would know that. Instead, they sit around all day reading garbage and pasting it into forums 80-100 times a day.

THEORY! it is still a theory that these gasses are causing anything. One report says yes, one says no. Read everyting and make up your own mind.

Some of us actually do read these reports and are still undecided as to the real cause. Personally, I think the HUGH ball of molten gasses has more to do with this than is being let on.

AF

Gaffer
10-27-2009, 12:03 PM
Any temp change involving the earth is due to the sun. The sun has 11 year cycles. It effects everything that lives on the planet. Anyone who says or thinks man can control the climate by limiting or increasing out put of anything is a fool or a charlatan.

gabosaurus
10-27-2009, 03:12 PM
If there are truly sun cycles, how does that explain how the ozone layer is depleting faster over the last few cycles than endless centuries before that?

avatar4321
10-27-2009, 05:03 PM
If there are truly sun cycles, how does that explain how the ozone layer is depleting faster over the last few cycles than endless centuries before that?

How on earth would you know that? We didnt have the instrumentality to measure ozone levels 1 century before now, let alone centuries before now.

And what does that have to do with so called global warming?

sgtdmski
10-27-2009, 07:04 PM
Where is PETA?????????????

dmk

MtnBiker
10-27-2009, 07:11 PM
If there are truly sun cycles, how does that explain how the ozone layer is depleting faster over the last few cycles than endless centuries before that?

no;



Evolution of global ozone distribution
Ozone layer depletion levelling off


21 September 2009
By merging more than a decade of atmospheric data from European satellites, scientists have compiled a homogeneous long-term ozone record that allows them to monitor total ozone trends on a global scale – and the findings look promising.

Scientists merged monthly total ozone data derived from the vertically downward-looking measurements of the GOME instrument on ESA’s ERS-2 satellite, SCIAMACHY on ESA’s Envisat and GOME-2 on EUMETSAT's MetOp-A.
"We found a global slightly positive trend of ozone increase of almost 1% per decade in the total ozone from the last 14 years: a result that was confirmed by comparisons with ground-based measurements," said Diego G. Loyola R. who worked on the project with colleagues from the German Aerospace Center (DLR).

http://www.esa.int/esaEO/SEMHSZJVUZF_planet_0.html

red states rule
10-28-2009, 06:25 AM
There are a great many people who have no clue what Global Warming actually is. They develop a warped opinion and use it to further their own agenda.
Global Warming refers to earth gasses cutting away at the ozone layer. The resulting rays cause the surface of the earth and the oceans to heat up.
It has nothing to do with normal seasonal events such as snowstorms and cold fronts.
Perhaps if some people here were actually educated and could think for themselves, they would know that. Instead, they sit around all day reading garbage and pasting it into forums 80-100 times a day.

The "Gore Effect" is world wide Gabby

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_orkXxp0bhEA/SaqOk5CNSTI/AAAAAAAAQWI/d88jemaDpNM/s400/090301-gore-effect-toon.jpg


What follows is a sampling of how Mother Nature enjoys ridiculing promoters of the global warming scam.

• The Gore Effect: Politico, November 2008

• First October snow since 1922 blankets London as global warming bill debated: Register, October 2008

• Global Warming Vote on Snowy Day in Washington - Senate committee debates expensive climate change bill as snow blankets D.C.: Business and Media, December 2007

• HOUSE HEARING ON 'WARMING OF THE PLANET' CANCELED AFTER SNOW/ICE STORM: Drudge Report, February 2007

• NOT AGAIN! DC 'Snow Advisory' Issued on Day of Congressional Global Warming Hearing: Times, March 2007

• Gore decries 'global warming' in bitterly cold NYC: WND, December 2006

• Gore delivers environmental message at Harvard ...with near 125-year record breaking low temps: MOTLS, October 2008

• Global warming activists urged to focus on Earth Day rallies and ignore snow as it 'piles up outside our windows': Alarmism, April 17, 2007

• No Joke! Cyclists 'braved freezing cold temps' to promote global warming awareness in New York: WKTV, October 22, 2008

• Global warming protest in Maryland frosted with snow: Baltimore Sun, January 2008

• Global warming rally in the snow: Alarmism, April 2007

• Snow won't dampen global-warming rallies: Live Daily, April 2007

• Brrrr - Obama to global warming demonstrators: 'This is probably not the weather to hold up those signs...it's a little chilly today', Space Daily, October 28, 2008

• Global Warming Awareness Walk Braves Snow Storm: Nashua Telegraph, March 2007

• The Gore Effect, Cont. - Gore speaks in Italy during 'rare' cold and snow: Planet Gore

• Climate protest canceled 'due to rain and cold': Telegraph (Australia), Nov. 23, 2008

Gee, I wonder what temperature was the "correct" one on Earth before Al Gore and the UN figured out how to profit from the Warming Grift?

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/03/gore-effect-strikes-again-giant-dc.html

gabosaurus
10-28-2009, 12:42 PM
You can look up all the temp articles you want. Doesn't make any difference.
Sorry RSR, but you are much too dense to understand Global Warming. Perhaps if you were intelligent enough to think for yourself and not just cut and paste what suites you, we could discuss it.

Silver
10-28-2009, 01:30 PM
You can look up all the temp articles you want. Doesn't make any difference.
Sorry RSR, but you are much too dense to understand Global Warming. Perhaps if you were intelligent enough to think for yourself and not just cut and paste what suites you, we could discuss it.

Gabby, Gabby, Gabby....I hate to seem like I pick on you but, you reason like a 10 year old....
You have the gall to rip RSR and then post this...

If there are truly sun cycles, how does that explain how the ozone layer is depleting faster over the last few cycles than endless centuries before that?

IF there are sun (solar) cycles...IF..????

Are you that ignorant not to know about SUN and SOLAR CYCLES are scientific facts ....???

Then you talk about the ozone layer as if you were an expert...you're about as expert on it, as Al Gore is on global warming...

The ozone layer was only discovered about 85 years ago..and our ability to measure it to any degree is even more recent....

Your a lemming, a sheeple, following the crowd....the Church of Al Gore ....
Its more believable to see the global warming crap for what it looks like, a power grab by the left wingnuts....a new way to pick you pocket and exert control over the economy of most industrialized nations....a way to redistribute the wealth of the richest nations.....
Your so indoctrinated by the left its incredible .....:slap:

MtnBiker
10-28-2009, 01:48 PM
You can look up all the temp articles you want. Doesn't make any difference.
Sorry RSR, but you are much too dense to understand Global Warming. Perhaps if you were intelligent enough to think for yourself and not just cut and paste what suites you, we could discuss it.

Hmmm, is rsr the only other member to have posted in this thread?

http://www.esa.int/esaEO/SEMHSZJVUZF_planet_0.html

Now, what were you saying about ozone?

red states rule
10-29-2009, 05:58 AM
You can look up all the temp articles you want. Doesn't make any difference.
Sorry RSR, but you are much too dense to understand Global Warming. Perhaps if you were intelligent enough to think for yourself and not just cut and paste what suites you, we could discuss it.

A picture is worth a thousand words Gabby


http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/2008/oct/01_10_2008_DvTempRank_pg.gif



and we have this Gabby - no warming in the last 10 years




No Global Warming Since 1998 As Planet Cools Off

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
April 4, 2008

Top UN scientists have been forced to admit that natural weather occurrences are having a far greater effect on climate change than CO2 emissions as a continued cooling trend means there has been no global warming since 1998.

But despite overwhelming signs of global cooling – China’s coldest winter for 100 years and record snow levels across Northeast America – allied with temperature records showing a decline – global warming advocates still cling to the notion that the world is cooling because of global warming!

"Global temperatures will drop slightly this year as a result of the cooling effect of the La Nina current in the Pacific, UN meteorologists have said," reports the BBC.

"The World Meteorological Organization’s secretary-general, Michel Jarraud, told the BBC it was likely that La Nina would continue into the summer."

"This would mean global temperatures have not risen since 1998, prompting some to question climate change theory."

The report admits that La Nina and its counterpart, El Nino, are "two great natural Pacific currents whose effects are so huge they resonate round the world."


http://www.infowars.com/no-global-warming-since-1998-as-planet-cools-off/

gabosaurus
10-29-2009, 04:21 PM
sure it is...

Alex Jones' Infowars:
The web page of syndicated radio host Alex Jones. Conspiracy-tinted site containing strong opposition to socialism, communism, and the New World Order.

Silver
10-29-2009, 07:24 PM
sure it is...

sure it is???? sure 'what' is ?

And do you have a problem with a website that has strong opposition to socialism, communism, and some New World Order ?

Do you have any opposition to socialism, communism, or a New World Order ?

sgtdmski
10-29-2009, 07:34 PM
Wow, and here it was that I thought Global Warming was caused by man-made action, and now I find out that it is caused by all the animals passing gas. Screw the polar bear, let them go extinct, they contribute to global warming. Thank god the DoDo went extinct. God knows how much it contributed to the problem!!!!!!!

(can you just feel the sarcasm dripping off of me!!!)

The first person that comes after my Dog, will find out more than they ever wanted to know about Warming, for their body will be the receptacle of hot lead. In cold weather, hot weather, dry weather or wet weather it will all feel the same.

dmk
dmk

actsnoblemartin
10-29-2009, 07:46 PM
wow, you aint no breathe of fresh air either hunny

with your one trick pony assasinations, aint cool, aint new. find a new dig


Another brilliant cut and paste debacle from the man with no brain or common sense.

Global warming is the temperature of the earth. It has very little to do with snow, freezing temperatures or other normal seasonal atmospheric events.
Of course, ConRep idiots won't acknowledge this because it cuts into their bullshit spewing.

If idiots like RSR had basic reading and comprehension skills, perhaps they would grasp this.

actsnoblemartin
10-29-2009, 07:57 PM
im sorry but gabby is a special needs adult, when it comes to her religion of liberalism

:lol:

red states rule
10-30-2009, 08:16 AM
sure it is...

I understand being a liberal Gabby, you have a difficult time dealing with reality

Being a liberal, you believe you are smarter then those who disagree with you - even these 31,000 scientists, and meteorologists


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Binky
11-01-2009, 01:56 PM
Another brilliant cut and paste debacle from the man with no brain or common sense.

Global warming is the temperature of the earth. It has very little to do with snow, freezing temperatures or other normal seasonal atmospheric events.
Of course, ConRep idiots won't acknowledge this because it cuts into their bullshit spewing.

If idiots like RSR had basic reading and comprehension skills, perhaps they would grasp this.

Actually, global warming is what the earth has been doing for millions of years. Man did not make it. He may have sped it up, but if he made it, then how does one account for the fact that it was warming and cooling over and over again, long before man arrived on the scene?

Global warming is the "cycle". The earth goes thru that cycle every so often. Then it switches to a cooling "cycle." And I daresay, one day, in the near future, we shall all be hearing Gore, the bore, yappin' about "global coolin'", since we aren't all buyin' his global warming crapola. He'll recant and do an about face and begin talkin' out of the other side of his face on the topic. Give it a few years, when he thinks we've all forgotten.............then BAM! He'll hit us in the face with a thought out cooling down theory......:poke: The programming will begin all over again.......