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Noir
11-15-2009, 12:40 AM
Pretty open question, i think the answers could be interesting enough, so;

What would finding complex life on another planet/moon to the argument of ID?

HogTrash
11-15-2009, 12:48 AM
Isn't it funny how all marxist fear people with religion and guns and relentlessly strive to strip them of these terrible things that they perceive to be a threat to their ideology?

Noir
11-15-2009, 01:00 AM
Isn't it funny how all marxist fear people with religion and guns and relentlessly strive to strip them of these terrible things that they perceive to be a threat to their ideology?

That the most interesting thing I've read in weeks,

However, it does nothing to answer the OP...like I said it was a pretty open question, but I dare say you're takin the piss a bit here,

HogTrash
11-15-2009, 08:35 AM
For marxism to take foothold and maintain it's control, people must elevate the marxist ideology above their religion but the theist will never comply, thus making religion the enemy of and a threat to marxism.

Marxism has historicly come to power by first creating class warfare and convincing people to turn power over to the government so that they may confiscate and redistribute the wealth to better serve the people.

Once all power and wealth has been turned over to government, the people soon begin to realize and regret that they have bartered their freedom for a cradle to grave socialist existance and government servitude.

To maintain it's power, the government must disarm the people by means of an all out campaign against the evil gun and their owners...Marxist know that they must remove the people's means to resist and revolt.

This extreme government control is called " totalitarianism"...The young and other easily manipulated people are marxism's advocates...With the use of their latest weapon[political correctness] they are succeeding.

Have you noticed the all out assault on guns and religion in the last couple of decades?...Whether you are religious or not or own a gun or not you had better resist any and all attempts to restrict these rights.

chloe
11-15-2009, 09:23 AM
Isn't it funny how all marxist fear people with religion and guns and relentlessly strive to strip them of these terrible things that they perceive to be a threat to their ideology?

It is a good point that I will think about today.

avatar4321
11-15-2009, 10:08 AM
I think any life found on other planets would show that there is a God. The more of it there, the less it's random chance.

Noir
11-15-2009, 11:23 AM
I think any life found on other planets would show that there is a God. The more of it there, the less it's random chance.

you think?
And if there were complex forms of life of their, that could comunicate, and think like humans, you would nt consider it odd that they would of have to have been made by a god?

It's only a matter of time before we find complex life, the question is how complex.

@hogwash- While that's all very interesting it's nothing to fo with the thread, so make your own to talk about Marxism, guns and god.

Missileman
11-15-2009, 12:22 PM
I think any life found on other planets would show that there is a God. The more of it there, the less it's random chance.

ROFL...you would also say that if we turned out to be the only life in the universe THAT would show there is a god.

Luna Tick
11-15-2009, 02:40 PM
Pretty open question, i think the answers could be interesting enough, so;

What would finding complex life on another planet/moon to the argument of ID?

Finding life on other planets would neither prove nor disprove the existence of God. If life got here without a designer, then the same thing could happen elsewhere. If God did design life here, he could have done so elsewhere.

AND THAT'S A FACT, JACK.

Luna Tick
11-15-2009, 02:44 PM
Isn't it funny how all marxist fear people with religion and guns and relentlessly strive to strip them of these terrible things that they perceive to be a threat to their ideology?

You didn't answer the question. You just talked about stuff that was totally irrelevant to it.

Noir
11-15-2009, 02:53 PM
Finding life on other planets would neither prove nor disprove the existence of God. If life got here without a designer, then the same thing could happen elsewhere. If God did design life here, he could have done so elsewhere.

AND THAT'S A FACT, JACK.

Indeedy, but think of the implications, take the Chirstain god as an example, did he create this life after, or before humans, do they know of Sin? Do they know of a Christain God? Have they also been given a chance to be forgiven their sins through Jesus?

chloe
11-15-2009, 02:55 PM
Indeedy, but think of the implications, take the Chirstain god as an example, did he create this life after, or before humans, do they know of Sin? Do they know of a Christain God? Have they also been given a chance to be forgiven their sins through Jesus?

So now the question is only being directed and asked tothose who are a christian denomination and not anyone who believes in God?

Noir
11-15-2009, 03:00 PM
So now the question is only being directed and asked tothose who are a christian denomination and not anyone who believes in God?

Kahblah! I thought that may be said,
Indeed, you see the problem is that i do not want to marginalize this to certain faiths or sects, however, it is useful when pointing out problems that would arise by finding other life to use a specific religion as an example. I only used Christianity as that is the religion best understood by myself and most of the users on the board, I am not picking on it, and nor are the problems with finding life on other planets specific to it.

chloe
11-15-2009, 03:03 PM
Kahblah! I thought that may be said,
Indeed, you see the problem is that i do not want to marginalize this to certain faiths or sects, however, it is useful when pointing out problems that would arise by finding other life to use a specific religion as an example. I only used Christianity as that is the religion best understood by myself and most of the users on the board, I am not picking on it, and nor are the problems with finding life on other planets specific to it.

Yeah but Buddhists have an entirely different belief about God, and so do other religions, most major religions don't fit my belief. But that doesn't mean I don't believe in God, it just means I don't enjoy organized religion. Anway lunatick answered the question the best so far.:cool:

HogTrash
11-15-2009, 04:18 PM
You didn't answer the question. You just talked about stuff that was totally irrelevant to it. Yes, but I was very tactful with my approach, don't you agree?

HogTrash
11-15-2009, 04:50 PM
Yeah but Buddhists have an entirely different belief about God, and so do other religions, most major religions don't fit my belief. But that doesn't mean I don't believe in God, it just means I don't enjoy organized religion. Anway lunatick answered the question the best so far.:cool:Being a marxist indoctrinated liberal, Noir is trying to demonstrait to people how rediculous it is to believe in God.

What the rest of us should be concerned with isn't whether or not God exists, but is the world a better place when people believe rather than disbelieve.

The answer to that question is, it depends on the religion...The world would definately be a safer, kinder, more peaceful and compassionate place without Islam, especially for women.

For the most part, the other religions have mellowed out in modern times and are no threat to their neighbors however morality, compassion and charity seem to be a higher priority when nonviolent religions are practiced.

I myself do not participate in organized religion but believe the world would be a kinder more peaceful place if people lived their lives believing their is a God and he wants us to love and help one another.

Kathianne
11-15-2009, 04:53 PM
Basically can't go wrong if practice the 10 commandments or golden rule. I do practice my religion, but it fits me. Not evangelical, other than by behavior. Family centered.

avatar4321
11-15-2009, 06:15 PM
ROFL...you would also say that if we turned out to be the only life in the universe THAT would show there is a god.

That's absurd. Youre seriously going to argue that Id claim that there is a God if this was the only world with life? I highly doubt God is going to waste all the space He created by doing absolutely nothing with it. It makes no sense.

Luna Tick
11-15-2009, 07:58 PM
Yes, but I was very tactful with my approach, don't you agree?

Sure, tactful enough, I guess. But what do you think about life on other planets? Would it cause problems if we discovered some?

emmett
11-15-2009, 09:43 PM
Being a marxist indoctrinated liberal, Noir is trying to demonstrait to people how rediculous it is to believe in God.

What the rest of us should be concerned with isn't whether or not God exists, but is the world a better place when people believe rather than disbelieve.

The answer to that question is, it depends on the religion...The world would definately be a safer, kinder, more peaceful and compassionate place without Islam, especially for women.

For the most part, the other religions have mellowed out in modern times and are no threat to their neighbors however morality, compassion and charity seem to be a higher priority when nonviolent religions are practiced.

I myself do not participate in organized religion but believe the world would be a kinder more peaceful place if people lived their lives believing their is a God and he wants us to love and help one another.

Interesting response.
Can't rep you again due to Affirmative Action Repping system utilized on this site.

emmett
11-15-2009, 09:43 PM
Sure, tactful enough, I guess. But what do you think about life on other planets? Would it cause problems if we discovered some?

Might be a problem for them! LOL

PostmodernProphet
11-15-2009, 10:04 PM
Pretty open question, i think the answers could be interesting enough, so;

What would finding complex life on another planet/moon to the argument of ID?

???...nothing....an intelligent designer would obviously not be stuck on one planet....

HogTrash
11-16-2009, 02:55 AM
Sure, tactful enough, I guess. But what do you think about life on other planets? Would it cause problems if we discovered some?I happen to believe that it is nearly impossible for there not to be life on other worlds and it has absolutely no affect on any of my other beliefs.

But the size and scope of the universe is such that I seriously doubt we will ever find them, or they us...A needle in a trillion haystacks.

HogTrash
11-16-2009, 03:04 AM
You didn't answer the question. You just talked about stuff that was totally irrelevant to it. And stop yelling at me!

Trigg
11-16-2009, 02:28 PM
I'd be surprised if there wasn't life on another planet somewhere out there. The bible says "God created the heavens and the Earth", it doesn't say anything about ONLY creating Earth as a livable planet.