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red states rule

12-08-2009, 10:16 AM

No wonder the left is going after Ms Palin and defedning Obama. Things are not going as well as they had promised during the election

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/palin-approval.jpg

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/obama-approval.jpg

This was reported earlier on Palin’s rising star.
FOX News reported:

As Sarah Palin blankets the media on a whirlwind book promotion tour, the former vice-presidential contender is clearly back on America’s radar screen. Despite being characterized by many as a divisive force in her party and the nation, Americans are much more likely to give Palin a positive rating (47 percent favorable) than another prominent female leader — Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (28 percent favorable). Moreover, about six in 10 Americans (61 percent) think Palin has been treated unfairly by the press, according to the latest Fox News poll.

Wait until the state-run media hears this.
Hah.

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/11/ruh-roh-sarah-palin-favorable-rating-47-barack-obama-favorable-rating-46/

red states rule

12-08-2009, 10:43 AM

SassyLady

12-08-2009, 06:50 PM

HogTrash

12-08-2009, 08:17 PM

Joy Behar and Andrew Sullivan Attack Sarah Palin: Is Trig Her Son?

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And what about the dirt he has dug up on Palin?...LOL!...He:lol: suspects she lied about contractions and when her water broke!...LOL!

Where does the left find these:lol: idiots at?...LOL!...They actually pay them to devulge these damaging secrets they spent months investigating and digging up...LOL!

LOLOLOL!...Please stop!...LOLOLOL!...You're killing me!...LOLOLOL! :lol:

red states rule

12-09-2009, 12:54 AM

These people are just fun to watch ..... it is so fascinating to watch/listen/read how people can take a fact and twist it around to suit their preconceived ideas of something.

Did anyone see Dr. Oz ask Joy to pucker up her mouth when they were talking about hemorroids? He said ......... "that's how your anus looks" ............ I laughed so hard because now every time I see her talk I picture turds coming out of her mouth...........thanks Dr. Oz!!!

They are both good fits at CNN - but Joy might get a show at MSNBC. Chris Matthews would welcome her with open arms

Isn't it great to see a couple of liberals attacking a special needs child like Trig Palin?

SassyLady

12-09-2009, 01:14 AM

They are both good fits at CNN - but Joy might get a show at MSNBC. Chris Matthews would welcome her with open arms

Isn't it great to see a couple of liberals attacking a special needs child like Trig Palin?

I heard that Sullivan has Palin derangement syndrome - from his own column:

MORNING:

18 Nov 2009 11:44 am

To Our Readers
This is only the second time in its nearly ten-year history that the Dish has gone silent. The reason now is the same as the reason then. When dealing with a delusional fantasist like Sarah Palin, it takes time to absorb and make sense of the various competing narratives that she tells about her life. There are so many fabrications and delusions in the book, mixed in with facts, that just making sense of it - and comparing it with objective reality as we know it, and the subjective reality she has previously provided - is a bewildering task. She is a deeply disturbed person which makes this work of fiction and fact all the more challenging to read. And the fact that she is now the leader of the Republican party and a potential presidential candidate, makes this process of deconstruction an important civil responsibility. We take this seriously as we always have. We want to be fair to her, and to her family, and to the innocent people she has brought into the spotlight. And we are not reporters. We are merely analysts trying to make sense of evidence already in the public domain, evidence that points in all sorts of directions, only one of which can be true.

Since the Dish has tried to be rigorous and careful in analyzing Palin's unhinged grip on reality from the very beginning - specifically her fantastic story of her fifth pregnancy - we feel it's vital that we grapple with this new data as fairly and as rigorously as possible. That takes time to get right. And it is so complicated we simply cannot focus on anything else.

There are only three of us.

And we have had the book for less than a day. We feel we owe it to you to get it right - or as right as we can - until we post or publish anything. As readers know, we also differ on some key issues and intend to air them and thrash this out until we are confident that whatever we publish is as fair as possible.

At some point, we will also go back and make sure we have not missed all the evidence of the other lies that Palin is now peddling. We won't miss anything. But we ask for your patience.

There is a possibility here of such a huge scandal that we would be crazy not to take our time either to debunk it or move it forward for further examination.

We have only one commitment: to get this right. Please bear with us as we do the best we can.

EVENING - SAME DAY

18 Nov 2009 07:36 pm

To Our Readers, An Update
This Dish will resume as normal tomorrow morning. We apologize for the lacuna. And I suppose some will say we've gotten this book and the issues it raises out of perspective. But since the last campaign, we have raised many questions about Palin to which we have been given no incontestable answers (and still haven't) and the only real evidence we have are news stories, interviews and now, critically this book.

In his hagiography of Palin, Matt Continetti accuses yours truly of earnestness about all this. I am grateful for his not accusing me of cynicism. I remain earnest in both suspecting every word she says but also in trying to find out the truth as best we can. It's not that Palin cannot tell the truth; it is that it is so mixed up with lies and delusions that separating them all out is not a quick or easy task. The Dish, meanwhile, has aired a whole range of views about her various 33 and counting verified lies, and the Dish's own Patrick Appel has weighed in independently on the whole, bizarre pregnancy/labor story, which has mystified me from Day One. So I feel obliged to do the homework properly - to be fair to Palin and to our readers as much as anything else.

Anyway, we're done now. And I hope to be up half the night trying to write a post on the great mystery of the stories about Trig, stories that have bedeviled the blogosphere and many others for months. There is no proof here of anything, but there is a much more nuanced and detailed narrative of the events (especially now we have Palin's first considered version of the events since the campaign) that when taken together has definitely helped illuminate what was once obscure and, well, bizarre. Believe it or not, it makes a little more sense now.

Stay tuned. And then the Dish will return to its normal programming.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/11/to-our-readers-an-update.html

If you read any of his spew about Palin you will understand why he feels she may sue him.

red states rule

12-09-2009, 01:18 AM

and we have this warm and fuzzy liberal who wrote how Ms Plain should have aborted - i.e murdered her unborn child

‘Objectivist’ Writer: Trig Palin a Financial Burden Who Should Have Been Aborted
NewsBusters ^ | September 17, 2008 | Rusty Weiss

Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:55:35 AM by Zakeet

In stunningly self-centered, cruel fashion, Nicholas Provenzo, writer for the Center for the Advancement of Capitalism suggests that Sarah Palin’s decision to give birth to a child with Down Syndrome, is a financial burden that others are forced to suffer with.

Provenzo, who has written opinion pieces for the Washington Times, Capitalism Magazine, and the Atlanta Journal Constitution, as well as being a guest on Bill Maher’s former show, Politically Incorrect, makes his case for “the morality of aborting a fetus diagnosed with Down syndrome.”

The full first paragraph of the piece which is circulating amidst the blogosphere reads (emphasis mine):

Like many, I am troubled by the implications of Alaska governor and Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's decision to knowingly give birth to a child disabled with Down syndrome. Given that Palin's decision is being celebrated in some quarters, it is crucial to reaffirm the morality of aborting a fetus diagnosed with Down syndrome (or by extension, any unborn fetus)—a freedom that anti-abortion advocates seek to deny.
Morally justifiable reasons for killing a baby? There is no justifiable reason for taking any child's life, and to call it a moral obligation to society is undeniably one of the more disgusting things to be written by a human being, about another human being.

In fact, advocating the abortion of a child based on the potential of that child having a disease or imperfection of some kind raises echoes of Nazi Germany’s quest for an Aryan race.

The suggestion that another life should be ended based on the presence of an extra chromosome, and that another healthy individual’s own life is more precious because of that, is over the top narcissism.

Maybe this shouldn’t surprise quite so much. After all, it wasn’t too long ago that sick individuals were offering up baby Trig on ebay. We live in a society where skeptics simply can't admire someone who stands on their principals. They must tear them down by insinuating that such a move is merely a political prop. Or, in this case, they argue that choosing life was actually a selfish move. A stunning argument to say the least.

However, Mr. Provenzo demonstrates his own level of selfishness in his rant. He doesn’t go the typical route of the pro-choice crowd, but reveals some very bizarre reasoning for why it is Palin’s obligation to have killed her baby boy – the care, love and effort required to raise Trig is a cost that others must bear.

A parent has a moral obligation to provide for his or her children until these children are equipped to provide for themselves. Because a person afflicted with Down syndrome is only capable of being marginally productive (if at all) and requires constant care and supervision, unless a parent enjoys the wealth to provide for the lifetime of assistance that their child will require, they are essentially stranding the cost of their child's life upon others.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2085100/posts

SassyLady

12-09-2009, 01:25 AM

My stepdaughter is a Down Syndrome child and I find this type of progressive thinking repugnant.

I would say more but I'm absolutely livid.

red states rule

12-09-2009, 01:27 AM

My stepdaughter is a Down Syndrome child and I find this type of progressive thinking repugnant.

I would say more but I'm absolutely livid.

It shows how low liberals will go to personally destroy anyone (and their families) who get in their way

HogTrash

12-09-2009, 12:59 PM

It shows how low liberals will go to personally destroy anyone (and their families) who get in their wayIt's not really hatred for Palin, but fear that she may be a political threat to their golden black boy.

Binky

12-10-2009, 12:17 AM

These people are just fun to watch ..... it is so fascinating to watch/listen/read how people can take a fact and twist it around to suit their preconceived ideas of something.

Did anyone see Dr. Oz ask Joy to pucker up her mouth when they were talking about hemorroids? He said ......... "that's how your anus looks" ............ I laughed so hard because now every time I see her talk I picture turds coming out of her mouth...........thanks Dr. Oz!!!

And now we will as well.....Great....thanks for that........UGH!!!!

Binky

12-10-2009, 12:22 AM

Can anyone believe this guy :lol: expects us to believe he was ever a conservative?...LOL!...Whata moron...LOL!

And what about the dirt he has dug up on Palin?...LOL!...He:lol: suspects she lied about contractions and when her water broke!...LOL!

Where does the left find these:lol: idiots at?...LOL!...They actually pay them to devulge these damaging secrets they spent months investigating and digging up...LOL!

LOLOLOL!...Please stop!...LOLOLOL!...You're killing me!...LOLOLOL! :lol:

:laugh2: Yep, that idiot wouldn't know a contraction if one had his neck in a choke hold......:banana2:

red states rule

12-10-2009, 09:10 AM

:laugh2: Yep, that idiot wouldn't know a contraction if one had his neck in a choke hold......:banana2:

Sullivan is your typical RINO whop for years said Republicans needed to be more like John McCAin. Sullivan and his kind loved McCain when he was sticking his finger in the eyes of Pres Bush

But like most of his kind, he voted for Obama, and continues to support Dems. He continues to attack Republicans and their families

stephanie

12-10-2009, 09:18 AM

red states rule

12-10-2009, 09:23 AM

Just let someone talk about the Obama's kids the WAY those two lefties pukes do about Sarah Palins baby and you would see ALL HELL BREAK LOOSE..

but as usual, liberal and two faced double standards go hand in hand..

they make me sick.

As I pointed out to my liberal co worker last night over dinner - name me one main stream conservtaive who ever went after a Dems child

On the left, it is noral operating procedures to go after Ms Palin's family. Everything is fair game when it comes to securing the lefts power, and anyone in the way must be destroyed - along with their family